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Afaik ?

As far as I know.
post #32 of 66
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Afaik ?

AFAIK = As far as I know
post #33 of 66
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AFAIK = As far as I know

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As far as I know.

Oh ok >.< thanks. Makes sense now
post #34 of 66
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ok so my emotiva 4 speakers came in today and i love alot about them but either the sound is that much different than anything i have heard or i swear there is something i feel is missing and i can not for the life of me figure out what it is anyone know of a way to figure out what it is ? or know what i mean
post #35 of 66
I´m glad that you´re enjoying them. Sometimes listeners can be unimpressed because they´re used to over-accentuated bass. Is their a lack of ¨fullness¨ with the sound, i.e., missing some of the lower frequencies? The 4s only go down to 58 Hz but that isn´t bad for their size.
post #36 of 66
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I´m glad that you´re enjoying them. Sometimes listeners can be unimpressed because they´re used to over-accentuated bass. Is their a lack of ¨fullness¨ with the sound, i.e., missing some of the lower frequencies? The 4s only go down to 58 Hz but that isn´t bad for their size.

No it's not the bass it's great better than I expected I played a tone from 20-20000hz and could hear them down to 40hz actually and pretty strong from 50 up. It's something else I have played all kinds of movies music and a few games and it like on the border of even noticing but to me something is missing or maybe it's different . Wish I had someone used to finding problems in audio and sound to tell me what :/ lol
post #37 of 66
Where are the speakers placed on your desk?

What is your source material? Are you playing .FLAC or 128kbps MP3s?

Are the speakers sitting right on your desk?

Do you have a DAC between them and your PC?
post #38 of 66
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Where are the speakers placed on your desk?

What is your source material? Are you playing .FLAC or 128kbps MP3s?

Are the speakers sitting right on your desk?

Do you have a DAC between them and your PC?

If you look at the picture on the first page they are placed where my old ones were except they have them up on some books to get the tweeter ear height and have them toed in so the tweeters are directly towards me and I also pulled the desk out away from the wall about a foot since I read multiple people say they need at least a foot of air space behind the port .

Music source is pandora and iTunes , movies are blu ray .

I am running them off of my Asus xonar dg sound card 3.5 mm out to RCA using a cheap cable not shielded right now till my new one from mono price gets here
post #39 of 66
How do you control the volume of the speakers? Ideally you want your source at 100%, and then adjust the volume at the end of the chain, ie. your speakers.

Can you describe the issue any better? It's not a lack of bass, do you feel like the sound is hollow, are certain parts of the sound recessed? Do you find yourself turning them up louder to hear more detail? Need to describe what you are hearing better.
post #40 of 66
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How do you control the volume of the speakers? Ideally you want your source at 100%, and then adjust the volume at the end of the chain, ie. your speakers.

Can you describe the issue any better? It's not a lack of bass, do you feel like the sound is hollow, are certain parts of the sound recessed? Do you find yourself turning them up louder to hear more detail? Need to describe what you are hearing better.

Since there is a volume control on both emotiva says to turn both to max and adjust source volume .

Ya it's like a hole or maybe something is recessed Cant describe it any better cant really tell what it is :/ that's the main problem if I could understand what it is I could figure out the problem and see if I could up a frequency a bit or something
post #41 of 66
Do you have any EQ applied from your computer or the sound card?
post #42 of 66
Make sure the Asus utility Xonar Audio Center has no DSP applied.
post #43 of 66
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Do you have any EQ applied from your computer or the sound card?

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Make sure the Asus utility Xonar Audio Center has no DSP applied.

No eq is applied I have it set to hi fi so it turns everything off
post #44 of 66
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any other suggestion on how i can figure out what it is im hearing or a specific track i should try or something?
post #45 of 66
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ok so my emotiva 4 speakers came in today and i love alot about them but either the sound is that much different than anything i have heard or i swear there is something i feel is missing and i can not for the life of me figure out what it is anyone know of a way to figure out what it is ? or know what i mean

First ensure that you are comparing sound at the identical same level. You need to match levels within 0.1-0.2 dB which requires an electrical measurement with an accurate meter. A SPL meter will not suffice.
post #46 of 66
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First ensure that you are comparing sound at the identical same level. You need to match levels within 0.1-0.2 dB which requires an electrical measurement with an accurate meter. A SPL meter will not suffice.

I don't have access to anything like that
post #47 of 66
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I don't have access to anything like that

I am really curious as to what you are hearing. Those Emotivas should be a night and day improvement over the Creative speakers you had, it may be you are used to their sound and need to adjust to something that is truer to the source.

Perhaps try plugging them directly in to your motherboard and see how it sounds, there could be something from the sound card that is altering things.
post #48 of 66
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I am really curious as to what you are hearing. Those Emotivas should be a night and day improvement over the Creative speakers you had, it may be you are used to their sound and need to adjust to something that is truer to the source.



Perhaps try plugging them directly in to your motherboard and see how it sounds, there could be something from the sound card that is altering things.

Ya they are a night and day difference and I did have the thought it might just be such a different sound that I'm not used to it I plan on giving them at least 2 weeks to get a feel and break them in a bit .

I will try hooking them to my motherboards audio out when I get home didn't think of that biggrin.gif
post #49 of 66
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Tried the motherboard audio same sound but with a faint hiss so that's not it will give it a few more days and once my better cables come will see if that changes anything

Will post in a few days unless someone else has any other ideas biggrin.gif
post #50 of 66
Do you have another source you could try other than the PC?
post #51 of 66
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Do you have another source you could try other than the PC?

Only my phone really and I tried that already
post #52 of 66
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ok so i finally figured out why my xonars eq wasnt working my motherboards sound drivers were interfering so i uninstalled them and now that i can mess with the eq these speakers will work just fine biggrin.gif can anyone tell me the proper way of tuning an eq to the way i like it and by that i mean what i normally do is drop them all to the lowest setting then raise and lower them to get focused on that frequency then get it till its a tad to prevalent then back it of just a little bit then move to the next frequency. is there a different better way to do this or is this way ok ? also anyone know of a sound card i could use to keep an adjustable eq but allow me to have my headphones and speakers plugged in at the same time and have a headphone amp as well?

i cant use my front headphone out because of a loud buzzy noise i think a while back i read it was poor grounding on my particular computer case or something like that
Edited by sureshot1234 - 7/20/13 at 7:18am
post #53 of 66
I normally use a flat EQ but your method of adjustment sounds typical. The upper level Xonar cards (e.g., the Xonar Essence) include headphone amps. AFAIK, most soundcards don´t provide output to speakers and headphones at the same time without the use of a splitter.
post #54 of 66
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I normally use a flat EQ but your method of adjustment sounds typical. The upper level Xonar cards (e.g., the Xonar Essence) include headphone amps. AFAIK, most soundcards don´t provide output to speakers and headphones at the same time without the use of a splitter.

ya i have them running flat right now with no adjustments when i do decide to tune the EQ i will have to make 3-5 different user defined EQ's so i can have it setup for movies, games, and the main different types of music i listen to classical-electronic-alternative/rock. i just ordered the emotiva asm bases for these and went up and listened to some other studio monitors including the other one i was considering they all that bigger woofers but i am not missing out on a thing:D these are great and i dont think i could have done any better for the money even taking into consideration stuff i dont even know about lol.

i wouldnt be running the headphones and speakers at the same time i would switch in sound settings which i want to use i only really use headphones when it is really late and i want some volume to whatever i am doing or when i skype and game with someone just would be nice to not have to crawl under my desk to swap the 3.5mm's

between asus , ht omega and creatives sound cards which brand would you recommend? i have heard bad things about creative in the past cant remember what is was now though

or would i just be better off getting a little usb dac with optical/usb in and rca outs and just keep my headphones on my sound card i just dont want to loose any sound quality if anything i would like to gain some lol what do you think?
Edited by sureshot1234 - 7/20/13 at 12:20pm
post #55 of 66
I wouldn´t get anything from Creative. That would be a downgrade from your Asus. I haven´t used any HT Omega products so I cannot comment on quality of their offerings. Upgrading to the next level Asus could be kind of expensive whereas a good quality USB DAC can be had for less than $100 (e.g., FiOS). Or you could just live with it and not spend the extra cash. wink.gif
post #56 of 66
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I wouldn´t get anything from Creative. That would be a downgrade from your Asus. I haven´t used any HT Omega products so I cannot comment on quality of their offerings. Upgrading to the next level Asus could be kind of expensive whereas a good quality USB DAC can be had for less than $100 (e.g., FiOS). Or you could just live with it and not spend the extra cash. wink.gif

What USB dac would you recommend under 100 like fiio , behringer some other brands ?
post #57 of 66
The Behringer UCA-202 is very favorably reviewed and is only $29.99 on Amazon.
post #58 of 66
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The Behringer UCA-202 is very favorably reviewed and is only $29.99 on Amazon.

is there a way to eq the sound going to the dac? a program or something ?
post #59 of 66
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The Behringer UCA-202 is very favorably reviewed and is only $29.99 on Amazon.

is there a way to eq the sound going to the dac? a program or something ?

 

Sure.

 

For playing audio files, I use foobar2000 which has a built-in, 18-band graphic equalizer. There's an add-on equalizer for it with (IIRC) 30 bands. No doubt other software can do the same, but I haven't used anything other than FB for years.

post #60 of 66
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Sure.

For playing audio files, I use foobar2000 which has a built-in, 18-band graphic equalizer. There's an add-on equalizer for it with (IIRC) 30 bands. No doubt other software can do the same, but I haven't used anything other than FB for years.

But will that work for movies and games or only music ?
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