I have been a SubMersive owner since June 2007. Back then I was part of this forum and I noticed Mark posted a lot. I was also reading how many people were really into big bass as it was becoming popular. Velodyne, among others were the big players back then. But they were very expensive for me. Also, I think that's when JL may have just started to come out with their sub but I may be wrong with the timing of that. So, back then I wanted to up my game in the sub arena but did not know how to do it. Then I started hearing about and reading about the SubMersive. I stated to read the dedicated SubMersive thread and asking people questions. I even asked Ed M. his advice. This was before he stated at SVS. He told me point blank, if I were looking for a sub to go in a small sealed room, the SubMersive was the way to go. End of story. So, I started to converse with Mark. Now remember, this is back in 2007 and there wasn't even a forum up for his stuff yet. But because it was in the beginning, I think Mark had more time. So I took a chance and I gave him a PM. He came back with an outstanding reply. That set off more questions. He sent me info and a description of his sub. After talking with him for a while I decided that I would go for it. Without a website or any other reason. Just based on my conversations with him, the info he gave me, and the fact that I felt he his character was good. So here I am now, 6 years later(HP upgrade) and the sub I bought back then, with no website to back it up is still a benchmark.
Let me just add this about benchmark subs. For me, it was the JM Lab Sub Utopia Be. That was the most amazing sub I have ever heard. I would listen to that sub every weekend at this store I used to go to. I never experienced a sub like that before. It was so powerful and just jaw dropping good. Now this sub was tested, but it was tested I think incorrectly a number of years ago on AVtalk. I say incorrectly because it was a ported sub and they did not take that into consideration when they tested it. Yet, this single 16in driver, in a ported box had some of the highest output of any sub tested over there if my memory is correct. Plus, as I said, when I heard it in a room, it instantly became my standard. The SubMersive, is in my mind as good SQ wiseand probably plays lower and maybe even louder then that sub did. And that sub was 3X the cost of my SubMersive when I bought it. So the SubMersive then became MY bench mark to which I would measure all other subs whether it was measured or not.
I understand people want the website up. Hell, even I want it up. But in reality, you can find all you need on Marks forum site. There he has the products that are available and a description about them. Plus, as it has already been mentioned, there are plenty of tests that are listed on this site where you can read reviews of the sub. It seems to me that if I compare Marks forum site to let's say, the JTR speaker site, the main difference is that on the JTR site you can see pics and on some of the product descriptions there is a max SPL output number given. But I would not call the JTR website "pretty" like a JL or Velodyne website. It is functional. That is what I think Mark's site is. It may be one level below that in some people's eyes but in the end, does that really matter? I do think it would be cool and beneficial to just have a picture of each product with the color of the available finishes though. But even those can be found, albeit with some effort on the users part. I did not need any third party testing to convince me that this was the sub for me. Just talking with the man was good enough. And I don't need any third part testing to tell me I made a great choice. Now Every time I listen to it I made a great choice. But since I really can't let loose in my room, I would be lying if I said I wan't curious to see what this things limits are
. But not knowing it's limits does not take away from my enjoyment of it. All I know is that if you do some major digging on Mark's forum, you can find people with 4000, 5000, and even 6000cf who have posted about having a single non HP SubMersive in their room and the results they got. I guess I have said enough. I hope my story has not offended anybody somehow.Edited by MIkeDuke - 7/18/13 at 5:59am