Originally Posted by basshead81
I believe most folks consider those numbers in correlation to reference on this forum. is that not what the term reference is for?
The only reference to "reference" in the quote I responded to was the mention of 115dB and even then my comment still applies, the 3dB mentioned applies to the back end where most don't listen so any mention of 3dB of which would only be a consideration of "peak" performant and that 3dB is barely noticeable.....these two points need to be mentioned in conversations of this type.
Our subwoofer system is a puny little system that will push 108dB and even with the addition of a fourth subwoofer will only do 111dB which falls short of reference. Nothing wrong with a reference capable system, and one day, when our 401(k) ship comes in, I will step up to a reference capable system but in truth, it will only be to say I have a reference capable system so anybody who comes over to listen to our subwoofer system, won't feel compelled to feel sorry for us.
"Those poor, poor, pitiful people. At 20Hz, their subwoofer system is only capable of 108dB."
I'm only pointing out that any gain of 3dB is unarguably, barely noticeable and chances are real good, normal listening conditions prevailing, I doubt many if any will notice the addition of an additional three or six dB because Home Theater sound tracks are mastered to the moment of the effect and is not intended to be a continuous rating such as is the case of musicians and music being reproduced.
Reference is a speaker system capable of 105dB and a subwoofer system, for headroom purposes, that's capable of 115dB and realistically speaking, the measured sound volume is not expected to be played continuously at these volumes. Hence the reference to personal research, links I have posted in the past,
show meta studies of many action based, movie theater playback rarely in the time of playback equals or exceeds 96dB. That being the case, here's a countering link
so one can read a countering opinion and draw their own conclusions. I'm not commenting to create controversy.
Please keep in mind, at no time am I discouraging anybody from acquiring a reference level capable subwoofer system or disparaging your comment. The only time our system will be played at max capability is when the wife is out of the house and even then I'm accused of trying to upset the neighbors on either side of us.
most folks here are lookin for a bit more than the traditional family room setup.
And yes, I do agree with your above comment, this being a subwoofer forum comprising of folks who are interested it playing it loud or at least achieving the acquisition of a subwoofer system that easily qualifies as "MUCH" better "than the traditional family room setup."
The sole focus of my comment was that of 3dB being considered significant and lending a bit of perspective to the comment. Nothing more.
-Edited by BeeMan458 - 7/26/13 at 6:05am