Originally Posted by jbrown15
I honestly don't see why it matters that the SubM HP has been around since 2006 as a reason not to test it. I can respect the fact that Mark doesn't want it tested but something to keep in mind is that he has more to lose then he does to gain by having it tested.
I know from reading all the GTG threads that its a solid performer, but lets just say that it didn't test well what then?
I'm also not suggesting it would test bad, I really do like the SubM HP. Heck I own a very similar designed sub. I'm just playing devils advocate and saying "what if", and that's what I could see being a possible reason for Mark not wanting it tested.
Re-read what I said. I was not using the fact that it has been around is 06' as a reason not
to test it, merely that it is a well established sub that won its reputation through owner reviews, GTGs and a number of other reasons. Cowboys expressed reservations about 'buying a $2k plus sub unheard/unseen is hard without any test from Ricci' to which I expressed disbelief in such reasoning considering that these boards talk of little else outside of ID brands of which, to repeat, the vast majority of buyers buy their chosen sub unheard and unseen based off, erm... owner reviews, GTG results etc...
It would seem very unlikely to me that the SubM would perform well at GTGs but perform poorly in objective testing... they seem like mutually exclusive 'what ifs' for mine. Secondly, even if it did test badly, does that mean the owners who have compared the SubM with other well-established, third-party tested subs out there and preferred the former are mistaken somehow, or have poor hearing perhaps? Would that also take away the subjective results at the GTGs, rendering them incorrect? I don't know, you tell me.
Lastly, the SubM is still the sum of its parts so some assumptions can still be made about its performance and limitations. The mentality that SPL numbers is all that matters is tiring, shortsighted and says nothing about other aspects of a subwoofer's design that most consider important (and no, I'm not simply talking about form-factor/aesthetics so much as function).