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2x HDMI Splitter That Supports A 2D and 3D Device Connected?

post #1 of 26
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I have the Monoprice 8204 and it appears that the splitter doesn't properly allow both a 2D only and 3D device to be connected to it, it then defaults to 2D for both signals out and will not send the 3D signal to the device that DOES support it.

Can anyone suggest a reasonable HDMI splitter that will not be fussy like this?
post #2 of 26
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Originally Posted by BradP View Post

I have the Monoprice 8204 and it appears that the splitter doesn't properly allow both a 2D only and 3D device to be connected to it, it then defaults to 2D for both signals out and will not send the 3D signal to the device that DOES support it.

Can anyone suggest a reasonable HDMI splitter that will not be fussy like this?

I don't think one is available the splitter can only accept one resolution at a time. That is the reason you are having a problem. I suggest that you use a small HDMI switch if you plan to use only one unit at a time. If you want to use both you can not have both 2D and 3D together.
post #3 of 26
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the reply. Any suggestions? I've looked around but haven't seen great reviews on many of them (not looking to break the bank here).

My neighbor uses a Rocketfish RF-G1182 so I asked to try it out tonight -- Reviews looked good but it's pricey unless bought used. Long story short, amazingly, seems to be working in limited tests. At least, it's letting the 3D signal get through while the other TV is plugged in, something the monoprice unit just didn't do

I haven't tried a lot of switching back and forth yet to see if the 3D might stop getting sent, which may happen if what you suggest is true.
post #4 of 26
I purchased a 1x4 hdmi switch from monorice and it is passing 3d. With a none 3d tv hooked to it have 2 projectors that are 3d works great so far if your still looking ill look up the number
post #5 of 26
Thread Starter 
Yeah, a model number would be great, if you have one you can verify that is working at sending output two a 3D projector and a standard TV (doesn't have to be at the same time). Thanks!
post #6 of 26
7972. 7522 the first numer is the 1x4 splitter number. The second is 1x2 version 1x4 is what im using only had this 4 days works perfect so far does your non 3d tv support 1080p if not this my change thangs. This splitter has a switch on it that has to be in rite position to pass 3d
post #7 of 26
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Originally Posted by BradP View Post

I have the Monoprice 8204 and it appears that the splitter doesn't properly allow both a 2D only and 3D device to be connected to it, it then defaults to 2D for both signals out and will not send the 3D signal to the device that DOES support it.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Are you trying to send a signal to both displays at the same time (both displays on), or are you trying to use one display with the second display turned off.

I had a problem with the latter. When I wanted to use my 3D projector, the source was detecting it, but it was also detecting my 2D projector even though the 2D projector was turned off.

The source would then inform me that I did not have a display that supported 3D.

I solved the problem by having my Harmony remote change the input on the 2D projector to an unused one (HDMI-1 to HDMI-2) just before it turned the projector off.
post #8 of 26
Thread Starter 
Interesting. I'll have to try that. My second source is not a 2D projector but a 2D Panasonic plasma TV. So you're saying perhaps that if I turn the HDMI source on my Panasonic plasma to a non-used HDMI input before I turn it off, that might work. I can try that with my Harmony as well. Interesting that leaving it on an active HDMI input even when off would have that effect on it, but nothing surprises me these days with HDMI handshaking and all.

It's funny, I thought when I left component cables behind that HDMI would make things easier, and for the most part it does, but this splitting stuff is a real headache. It will be nice when I get to a setup where I only have one display per AMP output.
post #9 of 26
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Originally Posted by BradP View Post

.............. Interesting that leaving it on an active HDMI input even when off would have that effect on it, ............................

It might be because when you turn some electronic components such as displays off, you are actually putting them on standby.
post #10 of 26
They're normally pricey compared to Monoprice's distribution amps, but you should look for a device that addresses each display separately. Not sure what nomenclature is used by other manufacturers, but example in a unit I'm familiar with, this is the description and link to the item:

Full Buffer Technology™: Full matrix buffering support for the seamless switching and viewing of any source/input with any display/output, regardless of multiple output viewing relation

http://keydigital.com/items.asp?ItemCode=kd1x2CS&Company=KEY
post #11 of 26
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Originally Posted by Kei Clark View Post

They're normally pricey compared to Monoprice's distribution amps, but you should look for a device that addresses each display separately. Not sure what nomenclature is used by other manufacturers, but example in a unit I'm familiar with, this is the description and link to the item:

Full Buffer Technology™: Full matrix buffering support for the seamless switching and viewing of any source/input with any display/output, regardless of multiple output viewing relation

http://keydigital.com/items.asp?ItemCode=kd1x2CS&Company=KEY

That's EXACTLY what I'm looking for! I have CEC issues and had to hack a hdmi cable (remove the CEC pin) to make it so my 2nd monitor wouldn't turn off when I shut off my plasma. It looks like this unit would fix that.

My question is... would the individual EDID handling described here also solve the issue "In order for 3D to work, all attached devices must be 3D capable"? My Directv is SO picky with this... I need to turn off all other devices and reset my directv box and my monoprice switch in order for directv 3d to kick back in.
post #12 of 26
Looks like with this you can copy an EDID of any device and force it to apply to all connected devices which is exactly what I need. I ordered one for $170 shipped from neobytes (the 1x4 model) and will report back. Not a huge deal if it doesn't solve the CEC issue, because all you have to do to fix that is remove the CEC pin from an HDMI cable... but if it really does pass along my plasma's EDID to all devices, I'll be one happy camper enjoying my Directv 3D.
post #13 of 26
It works! I bought the "Key Digital Systems - KD1X4CS - 1 x 4 HDMI Distribution Amplifier" ... set it to EDID "3D - HD Audio" and it works GREAT, even with 3D DirecTV.

Worth every penny to know my setup will "just work".

Input:
Directv HD24 receiver

Outputs:
Panasonic 3D Plasma (via Yamaha receiver)
LG 1080p monitor in den
Samsung 1080p 2D TV in living room
post #14 of 26
Fantastic! I agree, I love stuff that works as designed out of the box. smile.gif
post #15 of 26
Thread Starter 
Thanks for all the posts. I think I found a cheaper alternative that (so far) is working well.

1X2 PRO Series Powered HDMI® Splitter with 3D support (Rev. 2.0) from Monoprice, item 7522, at around $50 plus shipping.

I haven't extensively tested yet but in several switches so far between plasma TV and projector, has put a clear signal to both items as well as passed through 3d to the projector, and non-3d to the non-3d TV as it also should.

So far, so good. Cheapest solution I was able to find to do the job.
post #16 of 26
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Originally Posted by BradP View Post

Thanks for all the posts. I think I found a cheaper alternative that (so far) is working well.

1X2 PRO Series Powered HDMI® Splitter with 3D support (Rev. 2.0) from Monoprice, item 7522, at around $50 plus shipping.
.......

That's the model I've been using successfully.
post #17 of 26
That's the great thing about the AVS community, the feedback on whether something works or not is valuable. But I went to the product page and could not find any information on how the 7522 deals with signals so here's some questions for the owners:

Will the splitter handle two different types of audio formats on the outputs? Can you use stereo on one and surround on the other?

Does it blank on one TV when you turn the other on?

It would be nice if the design scheme was specified so that purchasing is not a guessing game.
post #18 of 26
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Originally Posted by Kei Clark View Post

That's the great thing about the AVS community, the feedback on whether something works or not is valuable. But I went to the product page and could not find any information on how the 7522 deals with signals so here's some questions for the owners:i believe what i have is the 1x4 version

Will the splitter handle two different types of audio formats on the outputs? Can you use stereo on one and surround on the other?

Does it blank on one TV when you turn the other on?

It would be nice if the design scheme was specified so that purchasing is not a guessing game.
i believe what i have is 1x4 version (7972) of that switch the one time i tried running audio back to receiver down converted hdaudio to 2.0 pcm not one splitter i have tried would pass through hdaudio everyone i purchase advertised that it would pass hdaudio
post #19 of 26
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Originally Posted by kwk2293 View Post

i believe what i have is 1x4 version (7972) of that switch the one time i tried running audio back to receiver down converted hdaudio to 2.0 pcm not one splitter i have tried would pass through hdaudio everyone i purchase advertised that it would pass hdaudio

For what it's worth, that Key Digital one I have is passing 7.1 no problem.
post #20 of 26
Thanks but im going to use the one i have was going to bypass video on receiver if it worked for audio but not that important to me
post #21 of 26

Hi BradP,

Can you please confirm whether your monoprice HDMI splitter is still working with the 3D and non-3D outputs? I want to order one, but the monoprice tech support said it would not work.

I have a 3D TV and a non-3D TV. I would like the hdmi splitter to pass a 3D signal to the 3D TV when the 3D TV is on, but pass a non-3D signal to the non-3D TV when the non-3D TV is on. I plan on having one TV on at a time. I'm hoping that the hdmi splitter would automatically allow for this. I don't want to have to manually do anything.

 

 

Thank you so much!

post #22 of 26
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Originally Posted by BradP View Post

Thanks for all the posts. I think I found a cheaper alternative that (so far) is working well.

1X2 PRO Series Powered HDMI® Splitter with 3D support (Rev. 2.0) from Monoprice, item 7522, at around $50 plus shipping.

I haven't extensively tested yet but in several switches so far between plasma TV and projector, has put a clear signal to both items as well as passed through 3d to the projector, and non-3d to the non-3d TV as it also should.

So far, so good. Cheapest solution I was able to find to do the job.

 

Hi BradP,

Can you please confirm whether your monoprice HDMI splitter is still working with the 3D and non-3D outputs? I want to order one, but the monoprice tech support said it would not work.

I have a 3D TV and a non-3D TV. I would like the hdmi splitter to pass a 3D signal to the 3D TV when the 3D TV is on, but pass a non-3D signal to the non-3D TV when the non-3D TV is on. I plan on having one TV on at a time (the other TV would be "off"/"standby"). I'm hoping that the hdmi splitter would automatically allow for this. I don't want to have to manually do anything.

 

 

Thank you so much!

post #23 of 26
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Originally Posted by vocalboyds View Post

Hi BradP,
Can you please confirm whether your monoprice HDMI splitter is still working with the 3D and non-3D outputs? I want to order one, but the monoprice tech support said it would not work.


I have a 3D TV and a non-3D TV. I would like the hdmi splitter to pass a 3D signal to the 3D TV when the 3D TV is on, but pass a non-3D signal to the non-3D TV when the non-3D TV is on. I plan on having one TV on at a time (the other TV would be "off"/"standby"). I'm hoping that the hdmi splitter would automatically allow for this. I don't want to have to manually do anything.


Thank you so much!

It's working as well as could be from where I sit. I currently have this box from my AV receivers HDMI out to its IN port, then from its two OUT ports, one port flowing to a Panasonic plasma non-3d tv, and the other OUT port to a Benq W1070 3d projector. It's been only ever going to one source at a time, never both, but is passing the 3d signal through to the Benq which no other splitter was doing. Worth the money to finally get one that can do this. I'm very pleased and have not really had to touch it at all since I hooked it up and turned it on.
post #24 of 26

BradP, THANK YOU so much for your reply. Happy Holidays! :)

post #25 of 26
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BradP, THANK YOU so much for your reply. Happy Holidays! smile.gif

I guess your mileage may vary with other devices but I hope you have as much luck as I did.
post #26 of 26
I purchased monoprice uhd redemere hdmi cables they dont play nice with monoprice splitter mentioned above if you have non3d display hooked to it took cables out everything works great again. (Not talking about regular monoprice hdmi redmere cables these work fine)
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