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post #121 of 175
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Originally Posted by Fastslappy View Post

It's the Only Current model of Sharp that is Full back lighted array it is NOT edge lit smile.gif
It may be back lit but it is NOT full array with local dimming. In the end it will be a "tad" better than an edge lit and pretty much have all of the edge lit flaws. If it does not say " Backlit, Full Array with Local Dimming" do not be fooled.
post #122 of 175
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Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma View Post

It may be back lit but it is NOT full array with local dimming. In the end it will be a "tad" better than an edge lit and pretty much have all of the edge lit flaws. If it does not say " Backlit, Full Array with Local Dimming" do not be fooled.
I never meant that it was a local dimming model & your Right to point out that this model is NOT a local dimming full back lit array .
I Do Not want to mislead anyone , So Chris makes a valid point that must be noted to anyone who might be confused

It is a full back lit array BUT NOT LOCAL Dimming smile.gif

IIRC Local Dimming never did actually work very well on the "Other MFGer's" models at all .

Chris : Is there any current new models that Have Local Dimming now ? ?
post #123 of 175
The LG 55LA9700 and LG 65LA9700 4K units which are not getting any love.
post #124 of 175
there are some guys on the 80" pricing thread swearing up & down that this model is just like a 80" 632 & full back lighted array


Sharp AQUOS 80" Class 1080p 120Hz Smart LED HDTV LC80LE642

they can't believe anyone when told it's just a Costco rebrand edge lit
post #125 of 175
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Originally Posted by Fastslappy View Post

there are some guys on the 80" pricing thread swearing up & down that this model is just like a 80" 632 & full back lighted array


Sharp AQUOS 80" Class 1080p 120Hz Smart LED HDTV LC80LE642

they can't believe anyone when told it's just a Costco rebrand edge lit

http://files.sharp.ca/Downloads/ForHome/HomeEntertainment/LCDTVs/SpecSheets/LC80LE642U/LC-80LE642U_SPEC_SHEET.pdf
post #126 of 175
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Originally Posted by Fastslappy View Post

there are some guys on the 80" pricing thread swearing up & down that this model is just like a 80" 632 & full back lighted array


Sharp AQUOS 80" Class 1080p 120Hz Smart LED HDTV LC80LE642

they can't believe anyone when told it's just a Costco rebrand edge lit
It really does not matter, the 632 may have been back lit, it has all the issues and anomalies of an edge lit set. So does it really matter in the end ? If it is not "back lit, full array with local dimming", it will basically preform like an edge lit TV overall........


Prove it you say, look at the price. No "back lit, full array with local dimming" was ever cheap. They are super expensive.
Edited by Cleveland Plasma - 11/25/13 at 7:46am
post #127 of 175

Hi, I just hung the 90LE675U on my wall a week ago and found to my dismay that It too has the two bars on each side of the picture!  :-(

I purchased it from a local big box store and told the manager there while waiting for my TV to come in, that I had found this thread and was a bit concerned about getting one because of this issue. He assured me I would have no problem as Sharp didn't have a 'known issue' regarding these bars. Besides, it was the 745U not the 657U that had the issue. Long story short, I got my TV delivered just in time for the Grey Cup (yes, I am up here in the frozen North), and to my surprise/dismay I saw the lines about 4 hours into turning on the beast.

 

I promptly informed the manager of our local store and he said they would re-order me a new one, pick up the old and install the new one at no charge and give me a fresh warranty and purchase date to boot. Well, long story short, I decided to go to the Sharp LC80Le857U instead. I saved 4 grand and feel much better about the whole deal as I was way too concerned about getting another flawed unit. Sharp still maintains there is no issue but for that kind of money they should have contacted me personally to explain and bolster my confidence but they can deal with the un-boxed monster now.

 

I will say that it was/is a beautiful TV and works well in 2 or 3D. I have had many large screen TV's over the years and I will say this one gets the oooh's and the aaah's! (I Had to move my Sharp LC-70LE735U downstairs to make room for the 90".)

 

I loved the picture and the fact that in a well light room this thing rocks whether it's on or off! There was one issue I couldn't get away from and that was the 120Hz refresh rate. It was reasonable but I kept seeing some jitter. Most of it was very subject to the quality of signal but even Blu-rays directly into the TV via HDMI showed small jitters occasionally. It also worked will with my PS4 for playing Ghosts! Anyway, it was a real shame about the bars and the fact that the sales guys could not get any other information from Sharp other than they don't know of any issue and would give me a replacement TV. You don't just take it down and re-hang the new one when you have something this large and heavy, so back it goes under the 14 day return policy in the store and my 80" is sitting at the store waiting for the guys to bring it up and take the 90 and hang the 80. I do have pics of the bars on the screen but they are the same as posted here in the thread I just replied to. I am very curious as to the outcome of the other Sharp 90" and the remarks if any from Sharp regarding this anomaly.

post #128 of 175
Ok got it and it's been set up a few days. After an initial bout of buyers remorse I Really like this set. Especially after using a little setup/calibration utility on my iPhone called THX Tuneup. That really helped.
post #129 of 175
Hey beemerphreak,
Could you post your pics of your "bars"?
post #130 of 175

Sure, I don't know how well this will work but here are a few of the pics I grabbed on my Galaxy Note 2 android.

 

 

 

 

post #131 of 175

Sharp 90 installed
Klipsch THX LR+Surrounds
Klipsch RC-64 Center
Klipsch RB-?? heights
Pioneer Elite SC-67 AVR
Emotiva 5x200
Pioneer Elite Blu-Ray
Paradigm subs x 2
All should be visible in pic except the rear subwoofer. There is a big wall of southern facing windows to the right just off screen and yet still very watchable.
post #132 of 175
Mine exhibits the same, maybe not as pronounced but I wouldn't call it bars but more of shaded edges. It really doesn't bother me for day to day movie watching enough to give this thing up yet. I'll keep an eye on them and if they get worse I'll squawk. My viewing isn't quite that critical but at these prices I suppose it should be. I wonder if they all exhibit this shading or if it will change as the screen ages.
post #133 of 175
Your last pic does kinda look like bars
post #134 of 175
I just got mine a few days ago and we watch a lot of hockey games which is on a mostly white screen and don't see the bars like in these pictures..we love this thing
post #135 of 175
I've been considering replacing my Sharp LC-80LE844U and going with the larger 90-inch model but after reading this thread I might have to wait for the 100-inch model in the years to come.
post #136 of 175
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I've been considering replacing my Sharp LC-80LE844U and going with the larger 90-inch model but after reading this thread I might have to wait for the 100-inch model in the years to come.
I was thinking the same thing BUT
really I do like this 632 of mine & I feel that with this unit it's best to wait until the industry turns around some & starts putting R&D to work to make my next larger display better by a huge difference than a small difference the 90"er offers I M O wink.gif
post #137 of 175
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I've been considering replacing my Sharp LC-80LE844U and going with the larger 90-inch model but after reading this thread I might have to wait for the 100-inch model in the years to come.

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Originally Posted by Fastslappy View Post

I was thinking the same thing BUT
really I do like this 632 of mine & I feel that with this unit it's best to wait until the industry turns around some & starts putting R&D to work to make my next larger display better by a huge difference than a small difference the 90"er offers I M O wink.gif


hahahaa wait a minute, you just helped convince me to switch in the other thread! wink.gif

I've recently exchanged my 844U and will be getting the 90657 delivered this weekend, so I'll hopefully be able to provide some good comparison feedback.
post #138 of 175
I have a 632 & it's a better display than a 844 just easy to set-up where the 844 is a P I A
for what I paid for the 632 & how good it is the 90" is not worth 3X the cost
post #139 of 175
Just for the record, I really like this set. I wouldn't give it up for any 80 I've seen.
As in drag racing... There's no substitute for cubic inches. I wouldn't trade it for a 70 with pitch black blacks in a thousand years. I'm spoiled.
post #140 of 175
Any slight shading issues I've seen seem to be diminishing the longer I keep the set on. About 30 hours so far... Unless they are related to the input being used. I'll continue to study and report.
post #141 of 175
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Originally Posted by pgaiduk View Post

Any slight shading issues I've seen seem to be diminishing the longer I keep the set on. About 30 hours so far... Unless they are related to the input being used. I'll continue to study and report.
what processing are you using ? I use a Onkyo that has the dual video processors & they work Real Well on these Sharps .
post #142 of 175
Pioneer Elite SC-67
I forget which processing scheme it uses.
Was thinking of checking out a Darbee but I have no patience for HDMI switching issues and I've heard...
post #143 of 175
One thing I am still amazed at is how cool this thing runs. It barely throws any detectable heat off at all...if any. I went to great lengths to cut vent spaces into a bookshelf immediately above the set but don't think I really had to at all. It replaced an LC65SE94U which I moved to the gym as a monitor. The 65 is a beautiful picture but is a heat monster comparatively. It gives off a LOT more heat than the 90.
post #144 of 175
The edge shading which was present at startup continues to diminish and any remnants are only noticeable to me by looking for them. The display exhibits "depth" which I was worried about after reading some posts of Sharps looking "flat". The 80 inchers at Costco did look less than appealing which is why I kept walking past them. I'm glad I waited. We found a Magnolia store with one of these on display and saw a big difference.
post #145 of 175
Will put more details later but for now...wow! I'm really digging the new display. Those extra 10" make a huge difference as far as immersion goes. I also really feel that the 90 has a better image out of the box, but am just starting to play with some of the suggested settings until a pro calibration can be done a few months down the road.

Pics and more thoughts to come, but for now if anyone has any preferred starter settings please share.
post #146 of 175
I just bought Disney's WOW calibration disc set after reading some positive reviews. I'll be giving it a try over the holidays. Has anyone here tried it? Are there really advantages to "professional" calibration that I'm unaware of or do these guys just come in, run one of these discs and twiddle the dials so the homeowner doesn't have to as the skeptic in me might suspect.
post #147 of 175
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Originally Posted by pgaiduk View Post

I just bought Disney's WOW calibration disc set after reading some positive reviews. I'll be giving it a try over the holidays. Has anyone here tried it? Are there really advantages to "professional" calibration that I'm unaware of or do these guys just come in, run one of these discs and twiddle the dials so the homeowner doesn't have to as the skeptic in me might suspect.
I M O opinion the pro cal is better as they use various machines , a PC , test the Display 1st
A "Real " pro will be there 4+ hours & they want you there as well , for the price you paid for the display a pro's costs are a small mere fraction of the cost of your display
suggestions are to take notes on his final settings , AND if you feel you don't like them when he's done then have him tweak to your satisfaction
again take notes on those changes .
Don't let him leave till your happy , any pro worth his salt will stay till your happy
post #148 of 175
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Originally Posted by pgaiduk View Post

I just bought Disney's WOW calibration disc set after reading some positive reviews. I'll be giving it a try over the holidays. Has anyone here tried it? Are there really advantages to "professional" calibration that I'm unaware of or do these guys just come in, run one of these discs and twiddle the dials so the homeowner doesn't have to as the skeptic in me might suspect.

Please let me know your thoughts, thinking of picking one up as well.
post #149 of 175
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Originally Posted by pgaiduk View Post

Just for the record, I really like this set. I wouldn't give it up for any 80 I've seen.
As in drag racing... There's no substitute for cubic inches. I wouldn't trade it for a 70 with pitch black blacks in a thousand years. I'm spoiled.
These are more or less the same technology as the 80" units, they will be very similar.
post #150 of 175
Went by the local BB where they have one on display. No signs whatsoever of the side bands. The rep said they've been running from open to close for almost a month which would lend credence to the break-in theory. Still waiting for the price to come down before pulling the trigger. That last 3 grand for the 10 inch difference is a tough one to get past the CFO....
Happy Holidays everyone!
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