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post #121 of 3265
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Originally Posted by Kelson View Post

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OS = Linux
  • An external HDD is formatted when it is plugged in.
  • Unlikely that it can be read by a PC and unknown if it can be accessed by a Linux box or if the HDD format is encrypted.
  • Transferring recordings off the DVR seems unlikely at this point
post #122 of 3265

Since I have been using four tuners I couldn't go back (to any less). I'm OTA (only) and there are a whopping total of six channels I record. Even with so few channels I'd probably lose a third or more of what I watch with only two tuners. Sunday and Monday recordings last well into the week and as the other days can't compete it's a good thing. Even tonight I have three scheduled for an hour. With a total of 38 series I'd miss far too much... as it is now PBS helps with their endless repeats.

post #123 of 3265
I wonder why these companies feel the need to prevent access to their HDDs. It's like they're trying to circumvent the FCC rules that forbid OTA encryption by obstructing fair use at a different point in the content acquisition chain.
post #124 of 3265
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Originally Posted by Aleron Ives View Post

I wonder why these companies feel the need to prevent access to their HDDs. It's like they're trying to circumvent the FCC rules that forbid OTA encryption by obstructing fair use at a different point in the content acquisition chain.
You wonder why bother for a DVR that is OTA-only and thus has no restrictions on the recorded content.
It may not be encrypted, it just may be a linux HDD format. But then the question is what is the format of the recording on the HDD, etc. I guess we really won't know until P Smith gets one in his hands.
Edited by Kelson - 11/13/13 at 5:27am
post #125 of 3265
Sounds as a lot of wasted energy where it could and should be placed elsewhere. That would be a major point looser here.
post #126 of 3265
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Originally Posted by videobruce View Post

Sounds as a lot of wasted energy where it could and should be placed elsewhere. That would be a major point looser here.


I agree, it's like the companies that feel the need to charge more for their DVR feel the need to spend the money on things that don't need to be done........if that makes sense.

The state of DVRs is very frustrating, either you get something very cheap(iView) that has severe limitations and bugs/quirks, something that just works but is expensive(Tivo) or something thats in between, not cheap but also has limitations(many times mfg. introduced to make matters worse)! Encrypting or making the HDD format non standard is just plane stupid IMO but it's like the larger companies want their product to fail for some reason.........I just don't get it.  If I were in the market for another DVR making the material on the HDD non standard would be a deal breaker for me but of course I'm sure others may feel differently.

post #127 of 3265
The HDD format issue may be regrettable but not necessarily sinister. If the box is using Linux as the OS, it makes sense to format the HDD in a Linux format. It doesn't make sense to format the HDD in a Microsoft format just so it can be read by Windows. Also, the format of the disk may not be encrypted but rather intertwined with internal storage to make a single volume out of the two, the same way TiVo handles external storage (also Linux OS) -- i.e. you can't pull a disk out of a RAID 0 array and read the files off of it by plugging it into another PC. So the designers may be more concerned with implementing a file system that provides for the greatest stability in use and not concerned with making the HDD detachable for plugging into a PC.

That being said it would be nice for some other mechanism to exist for recording transfer -- a built-in ftp server, SAMBA shares or some other way to access the recordings over the network, the way TiVo did it. Or the ability to plug a second USB drive in with PC formatting and have the DVR transfer the recordings over to this drive. At this point we don't know that either of those two mechanisms do not exist -- but I wouldn't count on it. It is like jjeff posted:
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either you get something very cheap(iView) that has severe limitations and bugs/quirks, something that just works but is expensive(Tivo) or something thats in between, not cheap but also has limitations
The CM-7500 will be one of those boxes in the middle. The question will be how it stacks up against the other middle tier boxes. If it keeps it's similarity to the DTV Pal/CM-7000 it will be on top -- and I think that is more or less what most people were hoping for.
post #128 of 3265
I would speculate about HDD file system what E* used and using; they support two formats today - E*FS (as 622,722,722k, DTVPalDVR,501/508/510 for HDD up to 1 TB) and XFS (921,922,813,913 - H/H2 for HDD bigger then 1 TB); I wouldn't expect different implementation in K77.
post #129 of 3265

Did the CM countdown timer disappear for a while? It's there now pointing to next week, 11/21/13.

post #130 of 3265
Using a Linux filesystem would be inconvenient for file transfers, but it would hardly disable that functionality, as ext drivers exist for Windows platforms. Using proprietary or encrypted filesystems is another story.
post #131 of 3265
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Originally Posted by jsymon View Post

Did the CM countdown timer disappear for a while? It's there now pointing to next week, 11/21/13.

Yeah, it did --good catch. I'm glad to see it's back, which hopefully means the K77 announcement will be next week.
post #132 of 3265
You will be able to buy an extended warranty for the CM-7500.

LINK
post #133 of 3265
I wonder if that's a good sign (extra customer service) or a bad sign (high likelihood of unit failure).
post #134 of 3265
Past experience? wink.gif
At least it's offered and at a decent price.
post #135 of 3265
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Originally Posted by Aleron Ives View Post

I wonder if that's a good sign (extra customer service) or a bad sign (high likelihood of unit failure).
There should not be a heat issue with the CM-7500 like there was with the -7400. It's looking more and more like a reboot of the DTV Pal. Hopefully it won't take the same market path as the DTV Pal -- bad release firmware that took 6-8 months to fix.
post #136 of 3265
Looks like they're taking orders now! I guessed on the URL:

http://www.channelmasterstore.com/product_p/cm-7500.htm

$249.99. It's unclear if this is the model that includes the HD or not.
post #137 of 3265
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Originally Posted by peepoop View Post

Looks like they're taking orders now! I guessed on the URL:

http://www.channelmasterstore.com/product_p/cm-7500.htm

$249.99. It's unclear if this is the model that includes the HD or not.
CM-7500 compatible Seagate Backup Plus 500 GB USB 3.0 Desktop External Hard Drive
post #138 of 3265
They provide a picture of the HDD, but not of the DVR. Hmmm. Ok, who is going to be the first?? eek.gif

Notice it is a USB powered HDD which is a plus. A another good move to provide a direct source for the drive for those who don't like to shop or have no clue how to.

I think the threads title needs a model number change. wink.gif

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Edited by videobruce - 11/14/13 at 12:21pm
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post #140 of 3265
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Originally Posted by wiscojim View Post

More stuff:

http://www.channelmasterstore.com/SearchResults.asp?Search=cm-7500
JackPot

It appears, since it is listed at the bottom of the page, that the $250 version of the CM-7500 is diskless.
Reasonable expectation since the CM-7000/7400 with internal HDD listed for $400.

Also note they are selling a 3TB drive compatible with the CM-7500 -- so this thing can handle a whopping amount of storage.
post #141 of 3265
It says at the bottom of the extended warranty that the new Channel Master DVR is expected to hit shelves early 2014. So if someone orders one now it could be quite sometime before receiving it.
Edited by Satmann - 11/14/13 at 12:54pm
post #142 of 3265
^^ My info still says 12/2/13. we'll just have to wait and see.
post #143 of 3265
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^^ My info still says 12/2/13. we'll just have to wait and see.


Maybe we will get some pictures before to long then.
post #144 of 3265
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Originally Posted by Kelson View Post

It appears, since it is listed at the bottom of the page, that the $250 version of the CM-7500 is diskless.
Reasonable expectation since the CM-7000/7400 with internal HDD listed for $400.

The one listed on the CM website for $250 is the CM-7500GB16. It is disk-less with 16GB of internal flash memory -- that is enough to provide a 1hr buffer to each tuner. Not saying that each tuner definitely has a 1 hr buffer, just noting what that amount of flash can provide.
post #145 of 3265
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Originally Posted by videobruce View Post

They provide a picture of the HDD, but not of the DVR. Hmmm. Ok, who is going to be the first??
smile.gif
post #146 of 3265
yeah, time to order for tear-down job wink.gif
post #147 of 3265
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Originally Posted by wiscojim View Post

More stuff:

http://www.channelmasterstore.com/SearchResults.asp?Search=cm-7500
Wow, that was short-lived. As of this posting they pulled all the products off that page and pulled the preliminary CM-7500 page off the site.
I guess they didn't want to leak all that stuff this soon and pulled it all down from the website.

They should know by now that you can't put Pandora back in the box and when you try people will take it as a signal that the product release is being delayed.
post #148 of 3265
someone got a preorder ?
post #149 of 3265
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Originally Posted by P Smith View Post

someone got a preorder ?
I don't remember if that was even an option.
post #150 of 3265
I did
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