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post #1471 of 3115
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Originally Posted by JHBrandt View Post

Man, this thread moves much too fast! I'm trying to catch up and I read ....
I mostly agree, but the highlighted claim needs a lot more support. Both the DTVPal and the DVR+ provide a grid-based PSIP guide that goes out much further than I've seen any station broadcast. The DVR+ guide is somewhat more attractive as a semi-transparent overlay, but aside from cosmetics, how can either guide possibly be "MUCH" better than the other?

Please explain the difference you see, with screen shots if needed. Don't just throw a statement like that out and leave us all wondering!
I'm not technical enough to explain why one has more data than the other. I can only tell you that for the few days I had the DVR+ sitting next to the DTVPal, the DVR+ had information in blocks where the DTVPal had No Information Available and at no time did a description change to No Information Available while I was reading it.
post #1472 of 3115
Has any DVR+ owners ran a test to determine the maximum number of timers that can be set? It would be nice (this is a "Wish List item) if the count was greater than that found in the PalDVR as I have max'ed out on my PalDVR quite often.
post #1473 of 3115
Why is there not a normal toslink optical out on this box? I see where you need some sort of 3.5 to optical adapter. Is it sold at RadioShack or Best Buy? I think I may have seen this type of adapter at Home Depot, but not sure.
post #1474 of 3115
i bought mine at Amazon; purchased 3 cause they are cheap, and in case one was DOA.
I was reading some reviews that indicated this part was hard to find.
Works like magic.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002MQGRM/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Took about 3 business days.
post #1475 of 3115
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Originally Posted by tylerSC View Post

Why is there not a normal toslink optical out on this box? I see where you need some sort of 3.5 to optical adapter. Is it sold at RadioShack or Best Buy? I think I may have seen this type of adapter at Home Depot, but not sure.

Google was my friend: I bought mine from cmple.com. 50¢ for the adapter and 33¢ for shipping for a grand total of 83¢. Came in under a week. I'd definitely have spent more in gas to get it any place else :-).
post #1476 of 3115
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Originally Posted by tylerSC View Post

Why is there not a normal toslink optical out on this box? I see where you need some sort of 3.5 to optical adapter. Is it sold at RadioShack or Best Buy? I think I may have seen this type of adapter at Home Depot, but not sure.
The answer is simple - a gap is not enough for old style TOSLink socket.

About an optical cable:a few years ago I bought such cable to connect dish sat DVR to my AVR, everything work fine and wasn't ware of its special design, one day connecting/disconnecting cables I got bad feeling: I did destroy the optic cable after disconnecting it when I discovered it has long round spike instead of that special shape short plastic ending. My fist thought was - man, I broke it ! After attempt use other one I found the plastic 'converter' is stuck inside of DVR's socket.
So, somehow I bought good cable, it's working for DVR+ after I cut cord and eliminate expensive dish equipment and its sub.
If someone interesting I could post a picture of it (sorry, don't remember its make/model/price, it was a few years ago).
Edited by P Smith - 1/21/14 at 8:28pm
post #1477 of 3115
Anybody want to compare serial numbers to see the range to guesstimate how many of these are out there already?

Here's mine...

Order date: 12/16/2013

Order number: 30798

Serial Number: R5YFJY00126L

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post #1478 of 3115
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Originally Posted by wiscojim View Post

Anybody want to compare serial numbers to see the range to guesstimate how many of these are out there already?..
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I would say 1000... perhaps more but less then 3k as we discuss the point a couple weeks ago.
post #1479 of 3115
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post #1480 of 3115

EXACTLY, I couldn't have said it better myself.  

post #1481 of 3115
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Originally Posted by DawnSun View Post

Whoa! No RF-OUT?

I am about to place an order for a DVD+ after reading this thread since its inception. (Gulp!) I'm ordering the DVD+ only from CM, no accessories.

I was writing up what I need and how to connect it all (an enigma to me) when I noted that the back of the DVD+ has an RF-IN for the OTA antenna, but it has no RF-OUT to send the signal to the TV (if I want to use the TV without the DVD+).

How does one get the antenna signal to the TV? (Perhaps one never watches TV independently of the DVD+, but with every other OTA recorder I've connected a coaxial cable to my HDTV from the recorder. The DVD+, of course, will already be connected with an HDMI cable.)

What other cables do I need for setup? I have an HDMI cable. Do I need a USB cable for the hard drive? Does the Seagate 3TB USB3 External Hard Drive at Costco come with a USB cable? (I plan to buy this HDD tomorrow.)

Thanks,
DawnSun

I apoogize if this is a dumb question. But, I would like to know if the device requires a splitter to send the signal to the TV? If so, what is recommended?
post #1482 of 3115
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Originally Posted by mulliganman View Post


I apoogize if this is a dumb question. But, I would like to know if the device requires a splitter to send the signal to the TV? If so, what is recommended?


No, not required. The output signal is done via HDMI. Some like to bypass the DVR and then you will need a splitter. The DVR+ does not have an rf output, like a Blu-ray player or TV.

post #1483 of 3115
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Originally Posted by JoeKustra View Post


The DVR+ does not have an rf output, like a Blu-ray player or TV.

Or 99% of the other OTA DVRS made and being used! Is CM just plain stupid or what?
post #1484 of 3115
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Originally Posted by mulliganman View Post

I apoogize if this is a dumb question. But, I would like to know if the device requires a splitter to send the signal to the TV? If so, what is recommended?
Yes you will need a splitter to send the signal to both the TV and the DVR+. The antenna cable will go to the splitter input, then have one output cable connected to the TV, and the other connected to the DVR+. If you have a weak signal or long cable, then possibly use a 2 port distribution amp in place of the splitter. And use an HDMI cable to connected the DVR+ to the TV.
post #1485 of 3115
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Originally Posted by LenL View Post

Or 99% of the other OTA DVRS made and being used! Is CM just plain stupid or what?
e* saved a couple of $ in re-design that UK model [601R] what has much bigger RF In and OUT connectors.
http://www.myechostar.com/Products/ConnectedDevices/HDT-610R.aspx
post #1486 of 3115
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Originally Posted by P Smith View Post


e* saved a couple of $ in re-design that UK model [601R] what has much bigger RF In and OUT connectors.
http://www.myechostar.com/Products/ConnectedDevices/HDT-610R.aspx

 

The UK model seems to have a different RF connector (no threads, and the center conductor protrudes) than the USA typical connector on the DVR+.  Maybe they use a different connector in the UK.

 

I don't consider needing a two-way splitter a big deal. 

The DVR+ clearly doesn't suffer from feature creep.

 

 

Chuck

post #1487 of 3115
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Originally Posted by P Smith View Post

e* saved a couple of $ in re-design that UK model [601R] what has much bigger RF In and OUT connectors.
http://www.myechostar.com/Products/ConnectedDevices/HDT-610R.aspx

If you read the User Guide for both our product and the British version they have really dumbed down ours! I haven't spent a huge amount of time but a couple of things jump out for me.
1. on the guide you can jump forward and back in two hour increment on the British version as well as there appears to be much more information.
2. the recorded programs list has a great deal more information including if you have already viewed a program and various other status.
3. there is a favorites list that allows you to make up to four groups of channels without deleting the others.

Are we the poor step children? At least it is evident this machine can do much more! eek.gif
post #1488 of 3115
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Originally Posted by tylerSC View Post

Yes you will need a splitter to send the signal to both the TV and the DVR+. The antenna cable will go to the splitter input, then have one output cable connected to the TV, and the other connected to the DVR+. If you have a weak signal or long cable, then possibly use a 2 port distribution amp in place of the splitter. And use an HDMI cable to connected the DVR+ to the TV.

Thanks for replying. But, I don't understand why Joe says it is not required and you said I would need a splitter.
post #1489 of 3115
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Originally Posted by mulliganman View Post

Thanks for replying. But, I don't understand why Joe says it is not required and you said I would need a splitter.

If you want to watch TV while it is recording 2 programs you will need a splitter. With a splitter you don't have to turn the DVR+ on ever to watch TV. Only to view recorded programs or to set them up. If you want to watch TV and don't use a splitter you have to turn the DVR+ on and feed your TV via it's HDMI out.
post #1490 of 3115
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Originally Posted by Chuck Tribolet View Post

The UK model seems to have a different RF connector (no threads, and the center conductor protrudes) than the USA typical connector on the DVR+.  Maybe they use a different connector in the UK....
Yes, it's well known IEC 169-2 TV Aerial connector (for those who have a deal with various RF devices) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TV_aerial_plug
post #1491 of 3115
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Originally Posted by tmn1 View Post

If you read the User Guide for both our product and the British version they have really dumbed down ours! I haven't spent a huge amount of time but a couple of things jump out for me.
1. on the guide you can jump forward and back in two hour increment on the British version as well as there appears to be much more information.
2. the recorded programs list has a great deal more information including if you have already viewed a program and various other status.
3. there is a favorites list that allows you to make up to four groups of channels without deleting the others.

Are we the poor step children? At least it is evident this machine can do much more! eek.gif
perhaps they are waiting for sale's figure ... UK FW current version is 113R
Edited by P Smith - 1/23/14 at 7:29pm
post #1492 of 3115
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Originally Posted by mulliganman View Post


Thanks for replying. But, I don't understand why Joe says it is not required and you said I would need a splitter.


You said "required". CM doesn't supply one in the box. The DVR+ can record two channels at once or one channel while you watch another (see post #1). If you want to watch one show while recording two others you will require a splitter or two antennae. A splitter is less expensive.

post #1493 of 3115
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Originally Posted by mulliganman View Post
 
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Originally Posted by tylerSC View Post

Yes you will need a splitter to send the signal to both the TV and the DVR+. The antenna cable will go to the splitter input, then have one output cable connected to the TV, and the other connected to the DVR+. If you have a weak signal or long cable, then possibly use a 2 port distribution amp in place of the splitter. And use an HDMI cable to connected the DVR+ to the TV.

Thanks for replying. But, I don't understand why Joe says it is not required and you said I would need a splitter.

 

It is because your original question was ambiguous and they are writing about different things.  You can watch TV from the DVR+ without a splitter.  But if you are going to connect your antenna to both the DVR+ and your TV, then you need a splitter.

 

Here is your original question:

 

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Originally Posted by mulliganman View Post
 
 
I apoogize if this is a dumb question. But, I would like to know if the device requires a splitter to send the signal to the TV? If so, what is recommended?

 

The question is, what signal, exactly, are you interested in?  If you mean the signal from the DVR+, then you don't need a splitter; you use an HDMI cable for the signal from the DVR+.  But if you mean the signal from the antenna, then you do need a splitter.  So, because your question was ambiguous, as you did not say what signal interested you, different people interpreted it differently, and consequently gave you different answers.  Essentially, they were answering two different questions, as your question can be interpreted at least two different ways.

post #1494 of 3115
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Originally Posted by JoeKustra View Post


You said "required". CM doesn't supply one in the box. The DVR+ can record two channels at once or one channel while you watch another (see post #1). If you want to watch one show while recording two others you will require a splitter or two antennae. A splitter is less expensive.

Thank you for those of you who responded to my original question. I understand why I received different responses. I'm sorry if I was unintentionally ambiguous.
post #1495 of 3115
Closed Captioning on the DVR+--Accuracy, Delay, etc.

There has been almost no reporting on this thread about the DVR+ ability to display closed captioning (CC) accurately and promptly.

My old wonderful Panasonic DMR-EZ47V displayed CC perfectly, both in recorded and live programs. My current trial replacement, the Magnavox 535, has had abysmal CC from the start. Its recordings are missing more than a third of the words altogether. The "words" I do get are out of order or have spellings that are mixed up. (NOTE: When I switch over to the TV and continue to watch the same program at the same time, the CC is perfect.)

The only posting in this thread about DVR+ and closed captioning ("petiteface" post #541) concerns font color, size, and background, but nothing about accuracy and responsiveness.

Has anyone tested the DVR+ to answer the following questions:

(1) Does the DVR+ display closed captioning (CC) accurately and without delay? (Displayed as the words are spoken. No dropped words--or lines. No garbled words--or lines.)

(2) Is CC available in recorded programs if you don't tell the DVR+ to record captions AHEAD of time? (In other words, can a feller change his mind if it turns out a BBC program is filled with characters speaking an incomprehensible local dialect?)

(3) The other side of question (2): If you record CC and don't need them on a particular program, can you turn CC off on playback?

We mostly watch programs made by our fellow English speakers across the pond. The Irish writer George Bernard Shaw said, "England and America are two countries divided by a common language."

Cheers,
DawnSun
Edited by DawnSun - 1/22/14 at 4:06pm
post #1496 of 3115
I saw many times "?" instead of letters ... didn't check that channel's signal level that time
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Edited by P Smith - 1/22/14 at 2:48pm
post #1497 of 3115
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Originally Posted by DawnSun View Post

DVD+
Just FYI, in post after post you keep calling it the DVD+. It's the DVR+. There is no DVD involved.
post #1498 of 3115
It's also worth noting that the punctuality of CC largely depends on the program. The CC style that prints lines letter by letter (which is often used for live events that lack prepared subtitles) is often at least several seconds behind the video, so "laggy" CC isn't necessarily the decoder's fault. It would be prudent to test the CC by comparing a live broadcast with the TV's CC decoder against what the DVR+ can output to see if they match.
post #1499 of 3115
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Originally Posted by Mr. Salty View Post

Just FYI, in post after post you keep calling it the DVD+. It's the DVR+. There is no DVD involved.

YIKES!

Right you are, Mr. Salty. So consistent, yet so wrong.

I'll try to shift the stuck brain to DVR+.

Thanks for pointing out my solecism.

--DawnSun
post #1500 of 3115
Just received my unit with hard drive and wifi plug. Start up fine on all channels plus a weak one I did not get before.
But wifi has me stumped. Followed prompts as best I could. entered password and 'connect status - connected, "signal' excellent.
No extended guide
"internet status "disconnected'
tried ch 200 - said something similar
My 'smsrt tv is still ok with the internet (netflik)
Help - what did I miss?
Old guy - still functioning - but needs help
Thank you
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