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Samsung PN43F4500 Vs. Panasonic TCP42X60

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These are at BB at $379 and $399 respectively. I need something for a dimly lit bedroom. I'm biased to the Samsung for the following reasons;

$20 less
no glowing red power light
one inch bigger screen

...but as an ex-Pioneer employee from the Kuro era I have a fetish for black level. In the BB showroom I can't tell which is better. If there is an opinion out there that the Pana is noticeably blacker in a dark room, I'll forgo the $20, the inch, and the absensce of the red light and get the Panasonic. Does anyone have any strong opinions on the matter, or ought they be about the same? Thanks in advance for your opinions.
post #2 of 9
Here is a review by Chad B for the Panasonic: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1476175/test-report-panasonic-tc-p42x60-budget-plasma

I haven't seen any professional reviews of the Samsung display but having seen the 51 inch version at a Meijer store I can say the blacks looked respectable.

The display I saw had the TV on a second shelf in the electronics section, where the top third of the display could not reflect any of the ceiling lights, the blacks looked dark. Not many picture options in the menu, but certainly didn't produce a terrible picture compared to some other TVs at the same store.
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1. Not much difference, but the picture quality of Panasonic TCP42X60 is a little bit better than Samsung PN43F4500.
2. Samsung has the best design in terms of thin bezel looks, slimmer than the Panasonic.
3. Samsung has somewhat more features such as 3D glasses, better internet facility than Panasinic.
4. Samsung is cheaper than Panasonic also.
From overall features we can say that SamsungPN43F4500 is better than Panasonic TCP42X60with very little difference between them.
post #4 of 9
I have the pn43f4500 and I absolutly love it, even with a pn60e7000 downstairs. This tv is loaded with features including real black panel, cinema smooth, black optimizer and a 10 point white balance control for expert calibration. I was in the same boat as you when I was looking for a bedroom tv. I stood for hours looking and playing with both and liked the samsung the best. I guess I favor sammy but I always wanted to try a panny but not the x60. In my opinion samsung represents a more accurate color reproduction and for what its worth samsung has always had superior processing for non hd content. Cnet did reviews of last years models and the lower end samsungs were better than the lower end panasonics. I think sammy offers more for less and they tend to look a little sharper than panasonics. In this case I vote samsung but if you were looking at the higher end spectrum I would say panasonic is slightly ahead in picture quality but some panasonic fanboy here is going to say the x60 is equal to a st60. This is my opinion and my opinion only... Samsung ftw... I guess if you bought them both and a&b'd them side by side in your room that would be the ultimate test, then just return the one you like the least.

As a side note I use led bias lighting on both my plasmas and it really gives the image more depth, better black levels and keeps you from getting eyesrain when the lights are off.
Edited by spimm - 7/12/13 at 10:37pm
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I just did this same comparison yesterday at Sears and came to a very easy conclusion after testing a variety of TVs.

I brought in a USB thumb drive with 1080p material, 720p material, and SD quality material. Some of the material was specifically for HD testing, while other material included TV shows, movie clips, and live music concerts.

The Samsung F4500 was far and away the better TV. It upscaled and downscaled flawlessly and gave me a fantastic picture regardless of the quality of the original source material. The Samsung was also able to play a variety of differently coded video and audio formats without a problem. I found the Media Player to be easy to access and intuitive to use.

On the other side, the Panasonic X60 did a terrible job upscaling and downscaling various picture qualities and in more than one case, actually added artifacts to the video that were not present in the Samsung. The Panasonic was not able to properly play some of the source material and in a few cases would only play video while displaying a large grey box indicating that it could not read the audio that accompanied the video file. I found the Panasonic Media Player to be very user un-friendly and in more than one instance it skipped ahead to a completely different video instead of just fast forwarding .

I went in expecting to see the pristine picture and action of Panasonic based on everything that I've read online about how great they are. After testing both TVs and the surrounding LGs and Sony's, I am convinced that the Samsung plasma F4500 is THE BEST budget TV of 2013.
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Just bought the Samsung - in home warranty for samsung vs take in for Panasonic. Samsung gave me 3 more months for registering online. The previous post helped me decide. I'm hooked up to an SD Directv box and DVD player. What I notice is that DVD's, recent movies and some stations have superb picture, but other stations have a 'smoky' appearance, as if some sharpness is missing. (I've already updated the firmware) My old prior TV, a Toshiba CRT, didn't have any of that smokiness on any Directv channel. (both tv's hooked up using component cables) So I'm wondering, is this tv 'better' than my old CRT and showing the poor quality of some stations or is it not able to display all the stations clearly ?
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Just bought the Samsung - in home warranty for samsung vs take in for Panasonic. Samsung gave me 3 more months for registering online. The previous post helped me decide. I'm hooked up to an SD Directv box and DVD player. What I notice is that DVD's, recent movies and some stations have superb picture, but other stations have a 'smoky' appearance, as if some sharpness is missing. (I've already updated the firmware) My old prior TV, a Toshiba CRT, didn't have any of that smokiness on any Directv channel. (both tv's hooked up using component cables) So I'm wondering, is this tv 'better' than my old CRT and showing the poor quality of some stations or is it not able to display all the stations clearly ?


That "smoky appearance" for SD channels, analog or digital, is very common for Samsung Plasmas (if you use TV´s internal tuner or if you do not upscale picture with an external decoder), I purchased a 2010 model and I hated that part and also the fact that it has less contrast and less blacks than Panasonic.  My parents purchased a 2011 Panasonic and it is a difference like night and day.  Samsung panels have a softer picture than the Panasonic.  I am comparing 42 inch budget models, not sure about higher end models. 

 

I will probably compare current models in order to purchase and have a "backup" Plasma since OLED panels are not going to be available to the masses soon. But I am 99% sure Panasonic gives better picture quality.


Edited by figo123 - 11/21/13 at 7:50am
post #8 of 9
I've had the Samsung for 3 months now. Originally my signal came from Directv SD capable receiver wired with S video cable to Dvd burner, then component cables to the Samsung TV. I've switched to Dish satellite, new sd/hd receiver, wired the same way - a fantastic difference in picture quality - jaw dropping ! Never seen anything like it. No B S. Then I switched to Dish receiver into tv through hdmi - same picture - S D or HD - great picture. I'm guessing newer Dish receiver helps bring out the best of the signal and allows the tv to work at it's full potential.
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Originally Posted by retired1 View Post

I've had the Samsung for 3 months now. Originally my signal came from Directv SD capable receiver wired with S video cable to Dvd burner, then component cables to the Samsung TV. I've switched to Dish satellite, new sd/hd receiver, wired the same way - a fantastic difference in picture quality - jaw dropping ! Never seen anything like it. No B S. Then I switched to Dish receiver into tv through hdmi - same picture - S D or HD - great picture. I'm guessing newer Dish receiver helps bring out the best of the signal and allows the tv to work at it's full potential.


Yes good point, issue I saw back in 2010 was with TV´s internal tuner (I corrected my previous post). With external decoder if you upscale the image to 720p or 1080i you will not see such issue. But if you do not upscale image to 720p or 1080i you will see such image, a very sharp image without "life" ( if behavior is same as 2010) .

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