Originally Posted by trooper11
Well not exactly.
I asked earlier about a shorter rack mount case due to some space restrictions I'm running into. Before I try to come up with a space to put a Norco 4224 sized case, I'm exploring other options such as smaller rack mount cases, some large cube style cases (Lian Li has a very interesting cube case that can accommodate 20 3.5" and 5 more via the 4 5.25" bays: http://www.lian-li.com/en/dt_portfolio/pc-d8000/
), or a smallish ATX/mATX case that would then have support for a storage enclosure via eSATA (Something like a 5 or 8-bay case). I want to avoid using raid on such an enclosure and instead use flexraid on the server pc to manage the drives via eSATA.
So I wanted to find a reliable eSATA card that could support such enclosures.
I do not understand the motivation to spend extra on ITX to get less, then spend more to get additional features easily found on non ITX boards- only to have ugly wire mess and ugly bulky messy boxes wired to the back of it. If you could tolerate those- you might be served better with an ATX or Micro ATX case and build and having room inside a nice looking case for that stuff.
If you don't want that- you should just pass GO, collect your $200, and skip right to building a server. Anything else is a waste of time and money.
I'm expecting stardog to chime in and tell me I am an idiot, but I generally view ITX with disdain, contempt, dislike, and a total lack of understanding. You pay more, you get less. Most of the time I see people using it and then they have 15 devices hanging off the back to do stuff the limitations of the case and ITX choice don't allow for. It's uglier, messier and generally more horrible in most respects.
Your either paying a premium for ITX because you want a small cute little box at the expense of value, performance or functionality. Often it will be visible and what it looks like matters, and where it fits matters. As soon as you start adding ugly stuff wired to it then your defeating the purpose of ITX IMO.
I think it is generally easier to locate a HTPC or PC in an area where you don't see it- than it is to try to build a full featured ITX small cute little thing that's as cheap and as functional. My HTPC is a 3570k in a rather good sized Antec300 case. I don't see it. I don't hear it. There is plenty of room for all sorts of stuff, even though I don't have a DVD drive, Bluray, or HDD inside. It's in my AV closet.
You can easily located a PC under the floor on a shelf and just run up a HDMI from below, perhaps a USB extension cable for IR or a remote dongle or wireless keyboard mouse. What's the need for all this ? I am not understanding what your trying to do. If you can hide the M-sata boxes and wires you can probably hide the entire HTPC and build something more robust for cheaper. If you can't hide anything, you really should just jump to a server.
I know my personality is rather extreme in one direction or another- I tend to go high, or I tend to go low. And, I know I am short sighted sometimes- so if I a missing something please let me know. Otherwise I would say skip all that crap and just make a single full function server, run a single CAT6 cable to your cute little ITX box build and live happily ever after. The End.
Having once chased the weird stuff your chasing and finally upgrading and doing it right has shown me the previous error in my ways. SAVE YOUR TIME AND MONEY and reconsider what your trying to do- and how to do it best. If you simply can not ever make the jump to a 4u Norco 24 bay server chassis- let's just get this figured out now. Then we can get you a tower style server build going like a Fractal Design or something. Assassin built Flocko a really nice build in a tower style you might be interested in. (Where is Flocko ? ) I am sure someone could dig up a picture for you and link to the build thread if you think you can't go with NORCO style server case. I was thinking you could based on your original posting- but if something has changed lets switch gears. Msata hanging off ITX is rubbish.
Edit: Here is a link:
Any example of a server build in a desktop style tower case.
You can build a server in any chassis you want- locate it anyplace you want. Don't mess around with half-assed Msata connected crap