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post #1021 of 1226
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Originally Posted by ABGoldblatt View Post

Hi, I have the v12 firmware on the box that I just received today.  Please let me know what update I should apply.

Thanks,
AG

There's no need to apply any update. Only reasons to apply an update your box did not come with is if you need QAM or if you get a new remote that is different from the one your box came with.
post #1022 of 1226
Remote range.

Anybody having problem with the range of the remote? My equipment rack is right behind my seating area, with my projector projecting onto a wall. I can point all of my remotes (except the one for this device) at the wall, and they will work fine. I find that this remote has only about half the range of my other remotes. Anyone else notice this?
post #1023 of 1226
Others have made similar complaints. Here are a few things to try:
  1. AAA lithium (e.g., Energizer Max, Energizer Ultimate) batteries have a slightly higher voltage and may help by increasing the brightness of the IR LED in the remote.
  2. A universal remote, especially one that uses 3 or 4 batteries instead of 2 and/or has multiple IR LEDs.
  3. If you're handy with a soldering iron you could replace the IR LED itself with a brigher one, as described here: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1482341/homeworx-hw-150pvr-support-and-discussion/640_20#post_24112100
  4. A mirror on the wall tongue.gif
post #1024 of 1226
5. A remote control extender





I have the same setup as you with a projector, and something like this really helps.




Also, it's conversation piece when visitors come over.tongue.gif
post #1025 of 1226
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Originally Posted by JHBrandt View Post

Others have made similar complaints. Here are a few things to try:
  1. If you're handy with a soldering iron you could replace the IR LED itself with a brigher one, as described here: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1482341/homeworx-hw-150pvr-support-and-discussion/640_20#post_24112100
Thanks. I'm a EE. I'll give this a try. If I can't get it to work, I'm not going to tell ANYBODY, especially my employer. This was exactly the kind of answer I was hoping for. Well, this, or... the manufacturer comes on here stating that I have bad remote, and they'll replace it free of charge. smile.gif Oh, well... off to RS.
post #1026 of 1226
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Originally Posted by plplplpl View Post

5. A remote control extender





I have the same setup as you with a projector, and something like this really helps.




Also, it's conversation piece when visitors come over.tongue.gif

I use one of these. Works fantastically !
post #1027 of 1226

Just bought a new PVR150. I love the tuner. Just have one small problem, seems to be a bug. Only sometimes, when changing the channel, the channel I end up on will load for about a second, and then the screen goes black for another second, followed by the channel loading again and staying stable. These are all strong signal channels that don't ever cut-out otherwise. I was just curious if anyone else has experienced this. Currently at V14, not sure if there's any newer code. Just curious, does HomeWorx have a website of their own? Thanks.

post #1028 of 1226
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Originally Posted by SnoopsBlues View Post

Just bought a new PVR150. I love the tuner. Just have one small problem, seems to be a bug. Only sometimes, when changing the channel, the channel I end up on will load for about a second, and then the screen goes black for another second, followed by the channel loading again and staying stable. These are all strong signal channels that don't ever cut-out otherwise. I was just curious if anyone else has experienced this. Currently at V14, not sure if there's any newer code. Just curious, does HomeWorx have a website of their own? Thanks.

Yes, it is a common problem.

There is a link in the first post to their forum.
post #1029 of 1226
I just purchased the HW-150 PVR and want to try and get it working with a QAM signal. Is this possible with a firmware update?

SW Version: CL630133 130925 V14

HW Version: 7816-ATSC-03

Thanks
post #1030 of 1226
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Originally Posted by Axiom Divine View Post

I just purchased the HW-150 PVR and want to try and get it working with a QAM signal. Is this possible with a firmware update?

SW Version: CL630133 130925 V14

HW Version: 7816-ATSC-03

Thanks

Email mediasonic and ask them for QAM fw for your version. You may or may not get all your clear QAM channels once you have the right firmware. You won't know until you try. And if you want to use it for scheduled recording that will be dependent on your cable provider sending time in PSIP.
Edited by jprc - 2/5/14 at 11:39pm
post #1031 of 1226
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Originally Posted by SnoopsBlues View Post

Just bought a new PVR150. I love the tuner. Just have one small problem, seems to be a bug. Only sometimes, when changing the channel, the channel I end up on will load for about a second, and then the screen goes black for another second, followed by the channel loading again and staying stable. These are all strong signal channels that don't ever cut-out otherwise. I was just curious if anyone else has experienced this.
I see this a lot, especially on Ion. The Homeworx seems to compare parts of the station's PSIP to info it saved the last time the station was tuned. If there's any change, it re-saves the new info and re-tunes the channel, causing the symptom you describe. An annoying side effect is that it will sometimes (not always) add back subchannels you've deleted and lose favorite and/or skip flags you may have for subchannels on that station.
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Originally Posted by SnoopsBlues View Post

Currently at V14, not sure if there's any newer code.
V14 is the latest firmware for most boxes. There is also a V14 QAM version available on request from Mediasonic.

Mediasonic has mentioned that the newest boxes come with V1 (no idea why they started over at V1 instead of just calling it V15 rolleyes.gif), but those boxes have slightly different hardware so V1 probably wouldn't work on yours. Supposedly there's no functional difference between V14 and V1 anyway.
post #1032 of 1226
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Originally Posted by SnoopsBlues View Post

Just bought a new PVR150. I love the tuner. Just have one small problem, seems to be a bug. Only sometimes, when changing the channel, the channel I end up on will load for about a second, and then the screen goes black for another second, followed by the channel loading again and staying stable.
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Originally Posted by JHBrandt View Post

I see this a lot, especially on Ion. The Homeworx seems to compare parts of the station's PSIP to info it saved the last time the station was tuned. If there's any change, it re-saves the new info and re-tunes the channel, causing the symptom you describe.

Yup I see that on my local Ion affiliate (well its O&O) and on my local ABC (KSTP 5) too. I noticed every now and then it will screw up a timer. I had a timer set last night for WWE Main Event. About a half hour before that I looked at my timers and while it still showed the start and end time the channel name was blank and when I selected the timer it had some weird info for the channel info.
post #1033 of 1226
One other thing I've noticed on my HW-150 is sometimes when I record a sporting event it will record part of it then just crap out.

Last Sunday I recorded the college basketball game on CBS (WCCO). I had it set for 2:30:00 yet it recorded only 1:41:55. After that the timer (that shows onscreen when recording) stayed at that but my hard drive continued to whirl. I have a Western Digital 320GB drive that has a bright green circle on the front. Solid green means on. Blinking means its doing "something" (usually recording) and it continued to blink on and off even though it wasn't recording. Its formatted to NFTS (or NTFS whatever its called) wink.gif
My CBS (WCCO) is O&O (so no subchanels) and the file was over 12GB (I think it was up to 12.48 when it died) so I thought maybe the file was too big.

Tried my local Fox (also O&O) and let it record for 2+ hours and it worked fine. But was only 11GB or so (there is a subchannel)

Later that day I just let it record on CBS. It worked fine and I stopped it at 2 hours something and it was 14GB. I know it has done this during college football season where it "just stops" recording for no reason

Anybody else run into this?
post #1034 of 1226
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Originally Posted by unclehonkey View Post
 
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Originally Posted by SnoopsBlues View Post

Just bought a new PVR150. I love the tuner. Just have one small problem, seems to be a bug. Only sometimes, when changing the channel, the channel I end up on will load for about a second, and then the screen goes black for another second, followed by the channel loading again and staying stable.
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Originally Posted by JHBrandt View Post

I see this a lot, especially on Ion. The Homeworx seems to compare parts of the station's PSIP to info it saved the last time the station was tuned. If there's any change, it re-saves the new info and re-tunes the channel, causing the symptom you describe.

Yup I see that on my local Ion affiliate (well its O&O) and on my local ABC (KSTP 5) too. I noticed every now and then it will screw up a timer. I had a timer set last night for WWE Main Event. About a half hour before that I looked at my timers and while it still showed the start and end time the channel name was blank and when I selected the timer it had some weird info for the channel info.

I don't really record Ion but I do regularly record Kimmel on KSTP and I've also seen that weird channel number in my timer list. It was for Kimmel and I tried to edit it to the correct channel but it would not let me. I ended up deleting it and making a new timer which worked fine. I do get the occasional missed event but I'm not 100% sure it wasn't me doing something wrong or the DVR but my "guess" is it may be a corrupt timer like the one I just happen to catch.

I use a Toshiba USB HDD that similar to yours has a blue LED when ON and blinks when recording or playing. If I'm around I always try and see what the LED is doing during my event time, I've never caught it not recording but like I said I've had it happen. These boxes are a bit flaky but you can't argue with it for the price and what it does.

I don't believe I've ever had mine stop recording once it started but I have had missed events. I've also recorded events up to 4hrs with no issues so I don't think file size has anything to do with it.

post #1035 of 1226
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Originally Posted by jjeff View Post

I don't really record Ion
other than WWE Main Event I rarely turn on Ion...every now and then on Qubo for the late night cartoons smile.gif
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but I do regularly record Kimmel on KSTP and I've also seen that weird channel number in my timer list. It was for Kimmel and I tried to edit it to the correct channel but it would not let me. I ended up deleting it and making a new timer which worked fine.

same here. Just deleted it and rest the timer
post #1036 of 1226
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Originally Posted by unclehonkey View Post

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Originally Posted by SnoopsBlues View Post

Just bought a new PVR150. I love the tuner. Just have one small problem, seems to be a bug. Only sometimes, when changing the channel, the channel I end up on will load for about a second, and then the screen goes black for another second, followed by the channel loading again and staying stable.
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Originally Posted by JHBrandt View Post

I see this a lot, especially on Ion. The Homeworx seems to compare parts of the station's PSIP to info it saved the last time the station was tuned. If there's any change, it re-saves the new info and re-tunes the channel, causing the symptom you describe.

Yup I see that on my local Ion affiliate (well its O&O) and on my local ABC (KSTP 5) too. I noticed every now and then it will screw up a timer. I had a timer set last night for WWE Main Event. About a half hour before that I looked at my timers and while it still showed the start and end time the channel name was blank and when I selected the timer it had some weird info for the channel info.

Someone said recently if you want to record a channel that does that, you should tune to the channel, set your timer(s), and leave the HW turned on and tuned to that channel so it won't screw up the timer.

It's a bug Mediasonic really needs to fix. I get tired of having to delete Ion's encrypted "Airbox" channels over and over. I'd also like their shopping channels to stay "skipped" once I set them that way.
post #1037 of 1226
Still not using my box a lot but I have the "flashy" problem with one channel, ABC. This channel also provides the most guide info - my DTVPal show 4-days of PSIP. To those of you seeing the flash, is it on channels that provide a lot of guide data?

I have also seen the "no station call letters" in my timer list. These never record, so I always delete and recreate.

Generally, the cheap little box is working pretty good for recording. I just wish it was more user friendly, had a better remote and would playback the 5.1 surround that it records. I find myself using it to record but rarely to watch. I will transfer files to my laptop to do the .mts-to-.ts thing, then usually end up watching on the laptop instead of the HmWrx because of the poor remote and lack of "skip" function, playback control - spoiled by the pal.

I don't recall reading it here but another problem I had was renaming recordings. Early in my ownership, I was using the HmWrx menu to rename and gave the same name to several episodes of a series, thinking it would work like the pal and just list them by name and date. I was wrong. I do not know what it did with the files. There was no "same name warning." But when I checked, instead of several files, there was just one! The others were just gone.

I now have a HDHomeRun DUAL that I am using to tryout Windows Media Center as a DVR.

I think it was JHBrandt that previously asked what I thought of the tuner. I can now say, that of the three, for my environment - The pal is best, HmWrx second and the HDHomeRun third.
post #1038 of 1226
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Originally Posted by happy2Lurk View Post

Still not using my box a lot but I have the "flashy" problem with one channel, ABC. This channel also provides the most guide info - my DTVPal show 4-days of PSIP. To those of you seeing the flash, is it on channels that provide a lot of guide data?
Good question - I'll have to check that tonight.

I do remember finding that the Homeworx only shows about a day's worth of listings, no matter how many the station broadcasts.

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Originally Posted by happy2Lurk View Post

Generally, the cheap little box is working pretty good for recording. I just wish it ... would playback the 5.1 surround that it records.... I will transfer files to my laptop to do the .mts-to-.ts thing, then usually end up watching on the laptop instead of the HmWrx because of the poor remote and lack of "skip" function, playback control - spoiled by the pal.
Another annoying bug Mediasonic needs to fix. Sure, you can change the file extension on a PC to play the DD5.1 audio, but why on earth should you need to?

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Originally Posted by happy2Lurk View Post

I don't recall reading it here but another problem I had was renaming recordings. Early in my ownership, I was using the HmWrx menu to rename and gave the same name to several episodes of a series, thinking it would work like the pal and just list them by name and date. I was wrong. I do not know what it did with the files. There was no "same name warning." But when I checked, instead of several files, there was just one! The others were just gone.
That's a bug I hadn't even heard of yet! Although back in the '80's (when computers were primitive), I had an Atari home computer with a similar bug: if you accidentally renamed two files to the same name, you could only access the first one. And you couldn't fix the mistake by renaming again - the DOS would just rename both files so they still had the same name! Similarly, deleting would delete both files, flagging the file read-only would flag both, etc.

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Originally Posted by happy2Lurk View Post

I think it was JHBrandt that previously asked what I thought of the tuner. I can now say, that of the three, for my environment - The pal is best, HmWrx second and the HDHomeRun third.
Thanks for that info. I'd been thinking about adding an HDHR Dual to my PC. I may still do it someday but I'll hold off for now.
post #1039 of 1226
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Originally Posted by unclehonkey View Post


Yup I see that on my local Ion affiliate (well its O&O) and on my local ABC (KSTP 5) too. I noticed every now and then it will screw up a timer. I had a timer set last night for WWE Main Event. About a half hour before that I looked at my timers and while it still showed the start and end time the channel name was blank and when I selected the timer it had some weird info for the channel info.

For the record I've observed this behavior (black screen flicker twice) also on my 150pvr as well as my iview 3500ii box too. So maybe its a problem in the hardware.
post #1040 of 1226
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Originally Posted by JHBrandt View Post

Someone said recently if you want to record a channel that does that, you should tune to the channel, set your timer(s), and leave the HW turned on and tuned to that channel so it won't screw up the timer..

I ended up doing that. Leaving it on Ion. Funny thing is I recorded a couple other shows after that (on different channels) and when I came back later it was back on Ion. So I guess if you leave the receiver on and there is a timer set for another channel, after it is done recording it goes back "where ya were" so to speak
post #1041 of 1226
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Originally Posted by happy2Lurk View Post

Still not using my box a lot but I have the "flashy" problem with one channel, ABC. This channel also provides the most guide info - my DTVPal show 4-days of PSIP. To those of you seeing the flash, is it on channels that provide a lot of guide data?

nope. Max I've seen is a day (on the DTVPal I've seen 4 days too on some channels). My local CW is barely 10 hours
post #1042 of 1226
Just checked my stations: The ones that "double-clutched" were KUVN/23 (Univision), KHFD/51 (an independent religious LPTV), and KPXD/68 (Ion). None of these broadcast a long EPG. Two of them broadcast several subchannels, but KUVN/23 only has the main channel, and several others that have several subchannels didn't double-clutch. KERA/13 and KDAF/33 do broadcast long (3-day) EPGs but they didn't double-clutch as far as I could tell. (K31GL might have double-clutched when I first turned the Homeworx on, but I didn't notice.)

One thing I did notice was that none of the stations double-clutched more than once. (I think it's something in the stations' PSIPs that changes maybe once a day that triggers it.) So once you've tuned to the troublesome stations, you're probably good for at least a few hours before you have to worry about it happening again.
post #1043 of 1226
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Originally Posted by JHBrandt View Post

... One thing I did notice was that none of the stations double-clutched more than once. (I think it's something in the stations' PSIPs that changes maybe once a day that triggers it.) So once you've tuned to the troublesome stations, you're probably good for at least a few hours before you have to worry about it happening again.

For me, the ABC station does the flash on first tune and on returning during the same use session. Not every time but often enough to be really annoying. However, it has not missed a recording that was set to start one minute early. I usually set recordings from the EPG but change the Start/End time.

JHBrandt, about the tuners, I am not saying the HDHomeRun has a bad or weak tuner. I based my ranking on ability to tune a weak station. Since they all have different signal strength indicators, what I did was connect the pal and the HmWrx directly to the TV by HDMI. I connected the HDHomeRun by cable to the router, then by cable to my laptop.

I then tuned them all to the same weak station. The DTVPAl showed 58-60 but recorded the station cleanly, without any breakups. The HmWrx had frequent minor breaks. I could see the laptop screen while watching the TV and I frequently saw the WMC message saying weak or lost signal.
post #1044 of 1226
Getting alot of disconnect with my Xbox one. Didn't have this before. Anyone know why?
post #1045 of 1226
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Originally Posted by bemoore View Post

Remote range.

Anybody having problem with the range of the remote? My equipment rack is right behind my seating area, with my projector projecting onto a wall. I can point all of my remotes (except the one for this device) at the wall, and they will work fine. I find that this remote has only about half the range of my other remotes. Anyone else notice this?

I have a similar problem, but it doesn't seem to be a range issue, it's more of a direct angle issue. I have been using ONLY a Logitech Harmony Smart Control hub with one IR blaster hooked up in the center of my HT room, and it controls everything perfectly EXCEPT for the PVR. The blaster has to be pointed directly at the front of the unit and not to either side more then 5° or so or it will not receive a signal. My cabinet is a self built cherry equipment rack with rack rail and steel shelves at the bottom, and record storage and a turntable filling the top area, so I don't have a lot of room to move it vertically or more in the open, but a Roku, Blu-Ray, and receiver on the same shelves work fine with IR from the center of the room without moving the blaster. The cabinet is approximately 5' to the left of my wall mounted TV, and set at a 45° (not on the same plane as TV) in a corner. I don't have a huge issue with the setup like it is, but my intention is to put the Harmony hub in the cabinet, and wire the blaster using 2.5mm to 3.5mm mono adapters and extensions through to my ceiling, and have the blaster placed in front of my ceiling fan base which is in the center of the room. I know the rest of my equipment will receive the signal fine with the fronts of the equipment pulled forward to the front of the shelves, but the PVR will not receive the signal. I don't really want to wire another blaster to the lower area of the room, as I'm going for a clean, wire free setup.

So I guess my options are
1) to relocate the PVR to an area or lower shelf that I don't need to see/access the front, where the hub can directly face it (meaning I'd have to have a permanent USB solution instead of changing flash drives like I am now)
2) use another brand blaster that goes over the IR eye instead of having to be away from the PVR. The Logitech has 2 2.5mm outputs, and they can be split.

Any other suggestions?
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Originally Posted by JHBrandt View Post

Others have made similar complaints. Here are a few things to try:
  1. AAA lithium (e.g., Energizer Max, Energizer Ultimate) batteries have a slightly higher voltage and may help by increasing the brightness of the IR LED in the remote.
  2. A universal remote, especially one that uses 3 or 4 batteries instead of 2 and/or has multiple IR LEDs.
  3. If you're handy with a soldering iron you could replace the IR LED itself with a brigher one, as described here: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1482341/homeworx-hw-150pvr-support-and-discussion/640_20#post_24112100
  4. A mirror on the wall tongue.gif

I see these posts also mention that the weakness might be on the receiving end, I wonder about removing the receiver and extending it with tiny wires off the board so it protrudes further, or comes out of it's hole. I have not torn anything apart yet, so I don't know what I'd be looking at yet. Maybe an IR receiver from another device could be put in its place that isn't so directional, unless it's just the plastic around the eye causing it.
post #1046 of 1226
If you record to a portable hard drive do you then have to output from the hard drive via USB to your tv or can you use the HDMI or component outputs on the unit itself to output a recorded show to a tv? I'm thinking of getting one to hook up to an HDTV with no USB inputs. Also wondering if you can purchase these in a store or are they only available online?
post #1047 of 1226
So I recorded a bunch of stuff for the last 2 weeks and it says zero when I go to play them back on HomeWorx and also checked on my Sony Bluray player, damn I'm pissed.mad.gif Put it on my computer and get ZERO as well. Using a WD portable HD, which was working fine till this happened.mad.gif
Edited by afterlife2 - 2/7/14 at 10:48am
post #1048 of 1226
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Originally Posted by Golfdad123 View Post

If you record to a portable hard drive do you then have to output from the hard drive via USB to your tv or can you use the HDMI or component outputs on the unit itself to output a recorded show to a tv? I'm thinking of getting one to hook up to an HDTV with no USB inputs. Also wondering if you can purchase these in a store or are they only available online?


I believe only online and yes you'd use the Homeworx itself to play your recordings and hook HDMI, component or composite from the iView to your TV.

post #1049 of 1226
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Originally Posted by afterlife2 View Post

So I recorded a bunch of stuff for the last 2 weeks and it says zero when I go to play them back on HomeWorx and also checked on my Sony Bluray player, damn I'm pissed.mad.gif Put it on my computer and get ZERO as well. Using a WD portable HD, which was working fine till this happened.mad.gif

You might try hooking up the hard drive to your computer and use a program called "Recuva" to scan for deleted files. It's a free program from here: http://www.piriform.com/

Try it without using the "Deep Scan" 1st, it may find them. If not, do a deep scan. If the files haven't been written over it will recover them.

I recovered 5 seasons of Big Bang Theory a college student had on a drive he sold me and (thought he) had deleted all files. Hehe.
post #1050 of 1226
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Originally Posted by bad_the_ba View Post

I see these posts also mention that the weakness might be on the receiving end, I wonder about removing the receiver and extending it with tiny wires off the board so it protrudes further, or comes out of it's hole. I have not torn anything apart yet, so I don't know what I'd be looking at yet. Maybe an IR receiver from another device could be put in its place that isn't so directional, unless it's just the plastic around the eye causing it.

I took the cover off and tested my unit- no change. Your mileage may vary.
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