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post #241 of 1233
Yep, after you unzip the file, you have the firmware bin file in a folder. Just copy the bin file to the root directory of the flash drive so the firmware update utility can see it.
post #242 of 1233
hey guys, been following this thread for awhile now, deciding on whether or not to get it and i finally did, will be here tomorrow

one question i just want to make sure before i go buy a cable for it. i want to run my ota antenna into the hw-150 and then use the hdmi out to my pioneer receiver which outputs hdmi to my tv and surround sound to my speakers. that will all work, correct?

if not i would have to use another rf cable to go to the tv, then output the sound from there to my receiver?
post #243 of 1233
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Originally Posted by MidnightRider67 View Post

hey guys, been following this thread for awhile now, deciding on whether or not to get it and i finally did, will be here tomorrow

one question i just want to make sure before i go buy a cable for it. i want to run my ota antenna into the hw-150 and then use the hdmi out to my pioneer receiver which outputs hdmi to my tv and surround sound to my speakers. that will all work, correct?

if not i would have to use another rf cable to go to the tv, then output the sound from there to my receiver?

I have simular equipment. I have Antenna into RF input HW150 (1080p)HDMI ouput to Yamaha home Thearter, From Yamaha HDMI 1.4 output to Panasonic TV HDMI 1.4 input. It works very good.

I don't see there will be issue for you. Unless something special setting need on Pioneer receiver.
post #244 of 1233
I don't have a Pioneer home theater either, but I agree with png5; if the Pioneer has both an HDMI input and output, your suggested setup should work OK.

But the other method (RF and HDMI cables from Homeworx to TV, and audio cable from TV to Pioneer) could also work, and would have one advantage: you could be recording one channel with the Homeworx while watching another channel with the TV. Of course, your TV's audio output and your Pioneer's audio input would need to be compatible (both optical or both coaxial, for instance).
post #245 of 1233
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Originally Posted by png5 View Post

I have simular equipment. I have Antenna into RF input HW150 (1080p)HDMI ouput to Yamaha home Thearter, From Yamaha HDMI 1.4 output to Panasonic TV HDMI 1.4 input. It works very good.

I don't see there will be issue for you. Unless something special setting need on Pioneer receiver.

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Originally Posted by JHBrandt View Post

I don't have a Pioneer home theater either, but I agree with png5; if the Pioneer has both an HDMI input and output, your suggested setup should work OK.

But the other method (RF and HDMI cables from Homeworx to TV, and audio cable from TV to Pioneer) could also work, and would have one advantage: you could be recording one channel with the Homeworx while watching another channel with the TV. Of course, your TV's audio output and your Pioneer's audio input would need to be compatible (both optical or both coaxial, for instance).

thanks guys, just wanted to make sure, looking forward to getting this tomorrow so i can record the football game Sunday

and i might hook it up like that as well, but let me see if i understand that setup. i would connect the antenna to rf in, and the tv to rf out (thats a pass through connection right?) and then also connect hdmi out to my receiver

then on my tv i can use its built in tuner to watch one channel, while the pvr is recording another channel?
post #246 of 1233
Yes, that's right. It's an RF pass-through connection, so you'd set you Homeworx to RF pass-through (I think they call it "RF loop through" though). And yes, you'd have both an RF cable and an HDMI cable connecting your Homeworx to your TV.

You'd switch your TV to the HDMI connection to use the Homeworx (i.e., watch recordings or use its functions, such as time-shifting or checking the EPG), or switch the TV to RF to watch something else while the Homeworx was recording.

Note: In this setup, it's best to connect the Pioneer to your TV's audio output. That way no matter which input the TV is set to, it should feed the correct audio to your Pioneer.

If you try to pass the HDMI signal from the Homeworx through your Pioneer to your TV, the audio would always come from your Homeworx. So you could watch a different show while recording, but you couldn't listen to it!
Edited by JHBrandt - 9/6/13 at 2:10pm
post #247 of 1233
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Originally Posted by MidnightRider67 View Post


thanks guys, just wanted to make sure, looking forward to getting this tomorrow so i can record the football game Sunday

and i might hook it up like that as well, but let me see if i understand that setup. i would connect the antenna to rf in, and the tv to rf out (thats a pass through connection right?) and then also connect hdmi out to my receiver

then on my tv i can use its built in tuner to watch one channel, while the pvr is recording another channel?

Very good suggestion from JHBrandt. For "pass through connection", HW150 RF Menu setup is Memu->"Channel Search"->"Modulation"->select "Loop through".
HDMI(digital) audio sound a lot better than A/V(red/white) audio out.
post #248 of 1233
wow, thanks so much guys, looks like i found the perfect setup for me! will let you know how it goes!
post #249 of 1233
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Originally Posted by png5 View Post

HDMI(digital) audio sound a lot better than A/V(red/white) audio out.

Especially on a home theater setup! Definitely use optical or coaxial audio, if available on both the TV and the Pioneer. Both are digital.

If your only options are L/R (red/white) audio from the TV or passing HDMI through the Pioneer, you'll have to compromise. HDMI will give you the best sound on HD channels, but your home theater setup will only play audio from the HDMI input (the Homeworx). L/R audio from the TV will follow the video on the screen, but it'll just be simple stereo. (Your Pioneer might be able to synthesize the missing channels so it may sound OK, but it won't sound the way it was meant to.)

If your Pioneer has a remote, you could make both connections (pass HDMI through and hook up L/R audio from the TV too) and switch between them as needed with the remote.
post #250 of 1233
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Originally Posted by JHBrandt View Post

Especially on a home theater setup! Definitely use optical or coaxial audio, if available on both the TV and the Pioneer. Both are digital.

If your only options are L/R (red/white) audio from the TV or passing HDMI through the Pioneer, you'll have to compromise. HDMI will give you the best sound on HD channels, but your home theater setup will only play audio from the HDMI input (the Homeworx). L/R audio from the TV will follow the video on the screen, but it'll just be simple stereo. (Your Pioneer might be able to synthesize the missing channels so it may sound OK, but it won't sound the way it was meant to.)

If your Pioneer has a remote, you could make both connections (pass HDMI through and hook up L/R audio from the TV too) and switch between them as needed with the remote.

yep, my tv has an optical audio out and the pioneer has optical in. its on my list of cables to get smile.gif
post #251 of 1233
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Originally Posted by MidnightRider67 View Post

yep, my tv has an optical audio out and the pioneer has optical in. its on my list of cables to get smile.gif

Check TV and Pioneer support HDMI 1.4, If yes, you only need HDMI 1.4 cable which have build-in Audio return channels from TV back to Pioneer.
post #252 of 1233
Thanks, png5. Audio return channels and HDMI 1.4 are new things I didn't know about. (Although in this case it sounds like an optical audio cable will do the job.)

That's the good thing about these forums. It'd be impossible to keep up with new technologies without them.
post #253 of 1233
ok got it all setup!, rf in to the box, rf out to the tv, hdmi out to my receiver. both outputs work great!

the mediasonic website is down right now for maintenance and may not be back up until monday, anyone got the firmware update file?

also whats the best format for my external hdd to record shows to? its a 750gb drive. ntfs or ext2?
post #254 of 1233
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Originally Posted by MidnightRider67 View Post

ok got it all setup!, rf in to the box, rf out to the tv, hdmi out to my receiver. both outputs work great!

the mediasonic website is down right now for maintenance and may not be back up until monday, anyone got the firmware update file?

also whats the best format for my external hdd to record shows to? its a 750gb drive. ntfs or ext2?

Definitely NTFS for a hard drive. I can try to upload the firmware. Do you want v10 or v12. Version 10 is the official supported version and 12 is the unsupported QAM verstion.
post #255 of 1233
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Originally Posted by jprc View Post

Definitely NTFS for a hard drive. I can try to upload the firmware. Do you want v10 or v12. Version 10 is the official supported version and 12 is the unsupported QAM verstion.

yeah ntfs, found it in the manual too smile.gif who would have thought LOL

v10, only using OTA, thanks man
post #256 of 1233
post #257 of 1233
appreciate it man!! thanks

i really like this thing, i don't know if its a placebo affect but i really think it has made the picture and signal better than before. my daughter said it looks just as good as when we had TWC

will make a full report after a couple of days use and recordings!
post #258 of 1233
The picture can't technically improve, since it records an exact copy of what the station transmits. What you may be noticing is that if the Homeworx has a more sensitive tuner than your TV, you may get fewer signal breakups when using the Homeworx, which means fewer random artifacts will show up on the screen.
post #259 of 1233
had to go and burst my bubble didnt you? tongue.gif

i will say this, the hw-150 does change the channel a lot faster than my tv does, and my tv is a few years old so that could be it, but there is no date on the hw-150 so no telling how old it is. when did these first come out?
post #260 of 1233
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Originally Posted by MidnightRider67 View Post

had to go and burst my bubble didnt you? tongue.gif

i will say this, the hw-150 does change the channel a lot faster than my tv does, and my tv is a few years old so that could be it, but there is no date on the hw-150 so no telling how old it is. when did these first come out?

It just came out several months ago - around May I think. It came out after the iView model which was new in February.
Edited by jprc - 9/8/13 at 11:39am
post #261 of 1233
One thing that might change the apparent PQ slightly is the up-scaling algorithm. Both the Homeworx and the internal TV tuner need to convert the incoming video from whatever resolution it was broadcast in to the TV screen's native resolution (if they don't match to begin with). A different algorithm could make the Homeworx look a bit better than your TV's tuner on, say, SD channels.

I've found the Homeworx's tuner isn't particularly sensitive, but it may still be better than your TV's tuner, particularly if your TV is more than a few years old. If so, you may notice fewer A/V dropouts.

And I've always been amazed by how much variation there is between tuners in channel-changing speed. It takes most tuners (including the Homeworx) a second or two to lock onto the video after changing channels, but tuners should be able to put up an identifying banner immediately, and also let you change channels again before they get a video lock. Not all tuners do, unfortunately.

And some tuners are good about locking onto the audio very quickly, even though the video usually takes longer. That helps give them the "feel" of changing channels quickly.
post #262 of 1233
Thread Starter 
New Remote Layout on new batch of HW-150PVR
due to customer's feedback, we changed the layout of the remote (no new button, just new layout)

If your HW-150PVR have serial # HW-150PVR13070001 and UP. it comes with a new remote layout "Timer" beside the "REC", This unit has V8 version of firmware and it contains same fix as V10, so you do not need to flash the firmware on it.

http://forum.mediasonic.ca/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=1811



And for People with V8 firmwares and want to use QAM
here is V12 with QAM for new remote layout units ONLY

http://www.sendspace.com/file/sve7p2
Edited by MediasonicEast - 9/12/13 at 2:33pm
post #263 of 1233
Does someone have the V12 firmware? I have not seen a link to it in this forum. If I upgrade to this firmware, can I go backwards to V10.
post #264 of 1233
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by jtribb View Post

Does someone have the V12 firmware? I have not seen a link to it in this forum. If I upgrade to this firmware, can I go backwards to V10.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1482341/homeworx-hw-150pvr-support-and-discussion/150#post_23656245

you only flash to V12 if you want to use QAM
if you do flash to V12, no need to go back to V10 (you can, but no need)
post #265 of 1233
Thanks Mediasonic. JTribb, if you're OTA I doubt you'll see any difference between V10 and V12. You only need V12 to receive clear QAM (unscrambled digital cable) channels. Please note that the functionality of the Homeworx is very limited (no EPG, no timed recordings, strange channel numbers) on the many cable systems that don't use PSIP.


BTW, I've added a couple more items to my upgrade wish list at post #222.
post #266 of 1233
I am OTA, but I was considering letting a friend try it with his cable.

On a different note, is there a consensus on what type USB HDDs to use?
post #267 of 1233
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jtribb View Post

I am OTA, but I was considering letting a friend try it with his cable.

On a different note, is there a consensus on what type USB HDDs to use?

you can use any USB hard drive up to 2TB only
post #268 of 1233
Quote:
Originally Posted by MediasonicEast View Post

New Remote Layout on new batch of HW-150PVR
due to customer's feedback, we changed the layout of the remote (no new button, just new layout)

If your HW-150PVR have serial # HW-150PVR13070001 and UP. it comes with a new remote layout "Timer" beside the "REC", This unit has V8 version of firmware and it contains same fix as V10, so you do not need to flash the firmware on it.

http://forum.mediasonic.ca/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=1811


this is the one that i got from amazon just the other day, but now i use my Harmony remote for it smile.gif
post #269 of 1233
Hey, just got this on the NewEgg 38.00 + free shipping deal, I was in need of a tuner with component out for my projector (which are hard to find and expensive), Wow, more than what I expected, outputs easily 1080p, reads my MKV library better than my HTPC.

Tuner seems fast, can tune in more than my HTPC and tv.
post #270 of 1233
Thread Starter 
For People with V8 firmwares and want to use QAM
here is V12 with QAM for new remote layout units ONLY
http://www.sendspace.com/file/sve7p2
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