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post #661 of 1233
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Originally Posted by a_bob36 View Post

So quick question. Should I purchase this or the iView? I honestly do not care about the DVR functionality at this time, but just need a cheap, good OTA box.
I bought the Homeworx because it was slightly cheaper at the moment and was reported to have slightly better firmware. I believe I made the right choice, but since I don't own an iView, I can't say for certain redface.gif

For an OTA box, the tuner is OK but not quite as good as I'd hoped. (I was able to improve it a bit by adding an attenuator at the RF input.) However, there have been a couple of hardware changes since my box was made; I have no idea if the tuner has been improved, though....
post #662 of 1233

I have a iView and know little of the Homeworx, other than at one time I was going to switch to Homeworx firmware to be able to use their better remote, before I did that iView came up with a much better remote than their original little POS so I stuck with iView firmware and for the most part have been completely satisfied.

One thing I'd check into before purchasing either, my iView shuts off USB power when not in use and thats the only way I'd want it, I believe either the Homeworx or iView with newer firmware may always supply USB power, even when off, I would NOT like this and wouldn't want a box that always supplied power to my USB HDD.

post #663 of 1233
With V13 (new remote layout) the Homeworx still shuts off USB power. Don't know about V14 or V1 rolleyes.gif (versions for newer HW) though.
post #664 of 1233
Does anyone have any idea what the remote code might be for this box? I would love to try and control at least some of the basic functions (channel up/down for instance) from the remote that came with my TV. I tried to use the scan feature, but didnt have any luck with it. Or as an alternative, is there a universal remote that someone can confirm works with the Homeworx?
post #665 of 1233
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Originally Posted by JHBrandt View Post

With V13 (new remote layout) the Homeworx still shuts off USB power. Don't know about V14 or V1 rolleyes.gif (versions for newer HW) though.

 

My HW with V10 firmware shuts off power to the USB hard disk too, which is good.

 

What is Not good is that it also shuts off the pass-through signal (which they call "loop") This means I must remember to turn on the HW if I want to tune the signal with my TV. This seems like a bug to me since on my old Sony pass-through of the signal to coax was the default.

post #666 of 1233
See here. redface.gif
Edited by Aleron Ives - 12/27/13 at 8:52pm
post #667 of 1233
I think a UEI remote will work without learning, but I'll have to do some research to confirm. I posted the JP1 codes in the iView thread a few days ago. Those have the info you need to make a UEI remote work or make pronto hex.
post #668 of 1233
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Originally Posted by Clarkbug View Post

Does anyone have any idea what the remote code might be for this box? I would love to try and control at least some of the basic functions (channel up/down for instance) from the remote that came with my TV. I tried to use the scan feature, but didnt have any luck with it. Or as an alternative, is there a universal remote that someone can confirm works with the Homeworx?
I have a Harmony 650 remote and the Homeworx I have is in their database . You can just download it to the remote on the internet . Works much better than the Homeworx remote . It is listed on the Mediasonic forum page .
post #669 of 1233
Problem with harmony is it costs way more than the Homeworx.
post #670 of 1233
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

Problem with harmony is it costs way more than the Homeworx.

:D kind of like the USB HDD you need to use to be able to record to the Homeworx.....

Lets see, only $40 for the iView but then you need to add $60 for a HDD and $100 for a remote :eek:

Hey, what happened to my $40 DVR :mad:;):D 

Kind of like some pickup trucks, base price ~$20K but by the time you add all the options it can top $40K :eek:

post #671 of 1233
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

Problem with harmony is it costs way more than the Homeworx.
I had mine before I purchased the Homeworx , I use it for TV , Roku , AV Receiver and DVD VCR combo . Yes it would be silly to buy one just for the Homeworx . My 650 remote cost 60 bucks on sale .
post #672 of 1233
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Originally Posted by Primestar31 View Post

You might want to consider taping a lottery results tv show! That way you'll know the results 20 years ahead of time! tongue.gifbiggrin.gif

Primestar31, that's a great idea! With the money I make in the lottery I can go back to satellite, or go back to FIOS, and use either one of their DVRs again. Thanks for the solution to my problem! smile.gif

P.S. The Homeworx picture (using my OTA antenna) is so much better than cable which is compressed, so even if I won the lottery I would still choose Homeworx over the cable company. I find that antenna, or satellite, or FIOS all have a much better picture than cable.
Edited by seattlemark - 12/29/13 at 11:24am
post #673 of 1233
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

Problem with harmony is it costs way more than the Homeworx.

This was my thought as well. Im OK with the hard drive purchase, since if the Homeworx doesnt decide to play nicely, I can always re-purpose the drive.
post #674 of 1233
I think there is a way to use a really cheap universal (as in $3 shipped from ebay cheap) without learning. I just haven't worked it out yet. I'll have the solution, if it exists, tomorrow and will post all the details.

EDIT: After an exhaustive search, I can only find one UEI remote that works without learning. Problem is it's the URC-7555, sold only in the UK. Any JP1 remote will work, of course, if you have a JP1 cable. Aside from that, the best cheap solution is learning, or a Harmony 200, if you can still find one.
Edited by mdavej - 12/29/13 at 6:48pm
post #675 of 1233
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Originally Posted by JHBrandt View Post

For changing file dates, you might try this on your PC: http://www.attributemagic.com/attributemagic-free.html. This free utility should do what you want; they also have shareware versions that do more stuff.

Thanks JHBrandt for the suggestion. As a result I explored Attribute Magic's Free, Standard, and Pro versions. I found that the Pro has a batch mode and in some cases it can extract from the filename the date/time and put that in the file's date/time attribute. But, no matter what I tired, I could not get it to recognize the date/time pattern in the file names produced by the Homeworx. For example an actual recording I had on the Homeworx was "KING-HD-12282013-1932.mts". (All Attribute Magic versions can be used to manually change the file's date/time attribute.)


However, I then searched the web and found an excellent freeware that is very flexible and can do the exact job automatically/batch. It is called "Advanced Renamer" and it can change Filename, Timestamp, and much more. Using the instructions at http://www.advancedrenamer.com/user_guide/method_timestamp and a Pattern I came up with of < Month >< Day >< Year >-< Hour >< Min > I was able to bulk change every one of the recordings on the Homeworx folder/directory so their Modified and Created and Accessed dates match the date/times imbedded in the Homeworx produced filenames. So in the above recording it changed the file's date/time attribute to "12/28/2013 7:32pm". AdvancedRenamer asks "Please donate if you like the software." (For which it provides various ways to do so.) I am planning on making such a donation. The developer's Advanced Renamer main page is at http://www.advancedrenamer.com/. CNET gave it an "Outstanding" at http://download.cnet.com/Advanced-Renamer/3000-2248_4-10433959.html , but looks like CNET Download version is 1 month older than the version at the developer's main page.

Please note: Regarding < Month >< Day >< Year >-< Hour >< Min >, if you use it you will need to remove the space after each "<" and before each ">". I could not save it as such in this post.
Edited by seattlemark - 12/30/13 at 12:38am
post #676 of 1233
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Originally Posted by seattlemark View Post

Please note: In < Month >< Day >< Year >-< Hour >< Min > , removed the space before and after each "<" and ">". I could not save it as such in this post.

Good find and good info. For future reference, the Code function in the post editor is there to allow for posting character sequences that would otherwise mess up BBCode/HTML posts.

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<Month><Day><Year>-<Hour><Min>


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Edited by plplplpl - 12/30/13 at 12:07am
post #677 of 1233
Using the Homeworx, if I hit the Info button on its remote all I get is the Title of the program currently being viewed. There is no additional information about the program beyond its title, station name/number, and date/time. Same happens to me if I go from EPG screen. However if I switch over to my TV's tuner, and I hit the Info button on the TV's own remote I get full information about the program itself. Program synopsis, etc. This happens on both of my TVs' tuners. So I know full program information is being broadcast OTA in my area. Is there something I can do either using the Homeworx remote, or in the Setup of the Homeworx, so it provides the full Information about the programs? Or is this just a major known weakness of the Homeworx? I hope there is something I can do to correct this on the Homeworx, as I am tired of having to switch over to my TV's tuner (or to the web from another device) to get program information.

(I'm sorry if this has already been discussed, but my searches haven't found it yet in this thread.)
Edited by seattlemark - 12/30/13 at 1:54am
post #678 of 1233
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Originally Posted by seattlemark View Post

Using the Homeworx, if I hit the Info button on its remote all I get is the Title of the program currently being viewed. There is no additional information about the program beyond its title, station name/number, and date/time. Same happens to me if I go from EPG screen. However if I switch over to my TV's tuner, and I hit the Info button on the TV's own remote I get full information about the program itself. Program synopsis, etc. This happens on both of my TVs' tuners. So I know full program information is being broadcast OTA in my area. Is there something I can do either using the Homeworx remote, or in the Setup of the Homeworx, so it provides the full Information about the programs? Or is this just a major known weakness of the Homeworx? I hope there is something I can do to correct this on the Homeworx, as I am tired of having to switch over to my TV's tuner (or to the web from another device) to get program information.

(I'm sorry if this has already been discussed, but my searches haven't found it yet in this thread.)

You need to be very patient for the EPG to populate. Hit the EPG and then go do something else - seriously. After waiting several minutes, you may need to scroll down to the next program and back up once for the info to appear. If you wait longer, you may not have to. Some people leave it on the EPG over night so that the next 24 hours (or whatever you get where you live) will be available in the morning without waiting.

Are you hitting the INFO button twice?
Edited by jprc - 12/30/13 at 2:08am
post #679 of 1233
Unlike some devices, the Homeworx doesn't maintain a database of EPG info received via PSIP. So when you hit EPG, you need to wait for the info to be transmitted by the station again - it won't remember it from the last time the station transmitted it a few minutes ago. Depending on how often your station retransmits EPG info, you may need to wait quite a while for things like the program synopsis to populate.

OT: I had a frustrating problem with my Homeworx Saturday. I'd been using a component cable, but no matter what I tried, I could no longer get any audio via the analog (L/R) outputs. I tried cycling the power, refreshing the firmware, and all digital audio settings in the menu. Nothing worked. Finally had to give up and switch to HDMI. (I reused the component cables for a DVD player. They work fine.)

The weird thing was, if I pressed the Mute key, the sound would come on for a second, but then went away when the Mute function engaged, and wouldn't come back when I un-Muted the sound again. So that was useless except to prove that my cable wasn't the problem.

This was with V13 QAM firmware. Anyone else had a problem like this? Is it specific to that firmware version?
post #680 of 1233
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Originally Posted by JHBrandt View Post

Unlike some devices, the Homeworx doesn't maintain a database of EPG info received via PSIP. So when you hit EPG, you need to wait for the info to be transmitted by the station again - it won't remember it from the last time the station transmitted it a few minutes ago. Depending on how often your station retransmits EPG info, you may need to wait quite a while for things like the program synopsis to populate.

OT: I had a frustrating problem with my Homeworx Saturday. I'd been using a component cable, but no matter what I tried, I could no longer get any audio via the analog (L/R) outputs. I tried cycling the power, refreshing the firmware, and all digital audio settings in the menu. Nothing worked. Finally had to give up and switch to HDMI. (I reused the component cables for a DVD player. They work fine.)

The weird thing was, if I pressed the Mute key, the sound would come on for a second, but then went away when the Mute function engaged, and wouldn't come back when I un-Muted the sound again. So that was useless except to prove that my cable wasn't the problem.

This was with V13 QAM firmware. Anyone else had a problem like this? Is it specific to that firmware version?


Hi, first post here.

 

Regarding the problem you're having, I just discovered something similar myself today. I had been using the HDMI output, which was fine. This morning I switched over to an older tube TV that happened to have component inputs, so I set it up using a nice set of component cables I got from Cox years ago. Nothing showed up on the screen. Fiddled around for a while, then decided to try the composite video output just to make sure. That worked fine for a time, but then I noticed that if I moved the box slightly the image winked on and off. So I started playing around with the cable at the back of the PVR and I could make it go in and out at will, so I concluded that the RCA jacks on the box must be defective, including the component outputs. Got an RMA from Newegg to get a replacement box.

 

Oh, and this was with V13, not the QAM version.

post #681 of 1233
I did have some problems Friday getting a good connection with the component cables. The cables I was using were just barely long enough, didn't connect very tightly and the luminance (green) cable kept slipping out, killing the A/V completely. But eventually I got the cables to stay put.

But the audio problem was different. I had good, solid video, and the fact that the audio came on briefly each time I pressed "mute" indicated it wasn't a connection issue. (Cables wouldn't intermittently connect each time I pressed a certain button on the remote!) The audio did work over those same cables on V10 firmware, which is why I wondered if it was a problem with V13, or at least V13 QAM.

BTW, my Homeworx and I are currently separated, so I can't flash V10 back on just to check. Besides, it's working fine with HDMI and "if it ain't broke, don't fix it...."
post #682 of 1233
I thought this thing was supposed to pickup radio stations - mine has none. Does anyone have any radio stations? Just curious.
post #683 of 1233
Quick question. I only have OTA signal. Is there a option to record in 3 different modes? Thanks!
post #684 of 1233
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Originally Posted by happy2Lurk View Post

I thought this thing was supposed to pickup radio stations - mine has none. Does anyone have any radio stations? Just curious.
Not certain, but I don't think it scans the US FM band, so I doubt it picks up either analog FM or so-called "HD" (Hybrid Digital) radio stations; but it might list ATSC audio-only subchannels as "radio" stations.

KMPX/29 used to have several audio-only subchannels which were simulcasts of their co-owned radio stations in DFW. They got rid of them before I got my Homeworx and no one else in the area is running audio-only subchannels, so I never had a chance to check what the Homeworx does with audio-only subchannels.
post #685 of 1233
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Originally Posted by afterlife2 View Post

Quick question. I only have OTA signal. Is there a option to record in 3 different modes? Thanks!
What do you mean by that? DVRs record the exact digital data broadcast by the station, bit for bit. There are no "modes" for digital recording. That's true of DVRs from Homeworx to TiVo and everything in between.

DVD recorders are different. They take analog data (or digital data converted to analog), encode (or re-encode) it as digital, and record that. The analog-to-digital encoding process can use various compression levels to allow more or less data to fit on a DVD, with a trade-off between recording quality and recording time.

If you want to re-encode your recordings to make them smaller (a la DVD recorders), a DVR like the Homeworx won't do that. You'll need a PC and appropriate software.
post #686 of 1233
Thanks JH. I was thinking it had modes like the old VCR's, like SLP. LP and SP. So If I were to record 8 hrs on a Hard Drive how much gigs would I need? Also Is there a newer box coming out soon or is this the newest one?
post #687 of 1233
I've had an interesting problem for the last year or so where 1 OTA channel (WMAQ - NBC Chicago) would have constant audio dropouts during sports broadcasts and commercials. For a long time I figured it was a reception issue and tried multiple antennas (I live within a couple miles from the broadcast station and strength was always 95% or higher). Almost replaced my receiver thinking it might be the problem. After stumbling across this thread I bought a Homework to see if the problem was my TV's tuner. Sure enough, NBC comes in great now without any dropouts. The DVR features are a nice to have, but not entirely necessary for me (use an EyeTV for recordings). I'm still not sure why only a single channel would have issues...
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Originally Posted by wallydog View Post

I have a Harmony 650 remote and the Homeworx I have is in their database . You can just download it to the remote on the internet . Works much better than the Homeworx remote . It is listed on the Mediasonic forum page .

The only issue I have with the Homeworx is using favorites on my Harmony Ultimate. The settings in the Harmony DB work perfectly, except the favorites will not send the leading zero for the lower channels. Has anyone had a similar issue and found a workaround. Alternatively, is this an issue that Homeworx could/will fix with a future firmware update?
post #688 of 1233
Well it depends on the station's bit rate, but typically you'd need about 2 gigabytes/hour for SD (standard definition) channels, and about 8 gigabytes/hour for HD (high definition) channels. So for 8 hours of HD you'd need 64 gigabytes. You can find "thumb drives" that size but actual hard drives are typically much larger.

A warning about recording to "thumb drives:" most are just too slow for HD channels and should only be used for SD channels if at all. I strongly recommend using a genuine hard drive instead; you'll have oodles and gobs of space and will be much happier. Many small hard drives can be powered from the Homeworx's USB port just like a thumb drive, so you won't need an extra AC outlet.

AFAIK the HW-150PVR is the only Homeworx with DVR capability. I've heard Mediasonic is coming out with a newer HW-180 box that's a player only (no recording capability) but I don't think it's available yet.
post #689 of 1233
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Originally Posted by irishv View Post

The only issue I have with the Homeworx is using favorites on my Harmony Ultimate. The settings in the Harmony DB work perfectly, except the favorites will not send the leading zero for the lower channels. Has anyone had a similar issue and found a workaround. Alternatively, is this an issue that Homeworx could/will fix with a future firmware update?
Homeworx changed their remote layout a while back, adding a dash. If you're on firmware V8, V13, V14, or V1, your Harmony can send the dash in lieu of a leading zero (i.e., it can send 2-1 instead of 021). If you're on V3, V10, or V12, an upgrade should fix your problem, although your "stock" Homeworx remote will have several mislabeled buttons. If that bugs you, you can buy a correctly-labeled remote from the Mediasonic store for $10.
post #690 of 1233
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Originally Posted by JHBrandt View Post

What do you mean by that? DVRs record the exact digital data broadcast by the station, bit for bit. There are no "modes" for digital recording. That's true of DVRs from Homeworx to TiVo and everything in between.

DVD recorders are different. They take analog data (or digital data converted to analog), encode (or re-encode) it as digital, and record that. The analog-to-digital encoding process can use various compression levels to allow more or less data to fit on a DVD, with a trade-off between recording quality and recording time.

If you want to re-encode your recordings to make them smaller (a la DVD recorders), a DVR like the Homeworx won't do that. You'll need a PC and appropriate software.

Wrong. Some DVRs do re-encode the broadcast. The old analog tuner Showstopper/replay DVRs as well as the newer digital tuner but SD Magnavox/Funai units offer a range of recording formats.

But it is true, the HW-150PVR and it's cousins only capture the bitstream as broadcast.
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