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post #721 of 1233
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Originally Posted by seattlemark View Post

Some interesting capabilities of the HW-150 I found yesterday:

1) While recording a channel such as 9-1, if I use the channel up/down buttons on the remote I was surprised to find that it allows me to change channels to 9-2 and to 9-3 or back as long as I stay within the 9-x group (where x is a number) . When I go to view my recording, 9-1 had recorded the entire time with no recording of 9-2 or 9-3. So the single tuner on the HW-150 must be pulling in all the 9-x channels at the same time. (Note: While recording 9-x, if I try to switch to 7-x or to 11-x , the Homeworx does prompt me if I want to Exit recording mode first.)

2). I did not know until yesterday that while recording a channel, the Timeshift mode also can be used by hitting Pause button. Then after I hit Play button I can go back to watch from the beginning of the recording time, which was long before I has hit the Pause button. (Note: But then the trick about changing from 9-1 to 9-2 does not work while using Timeshift mode, even though I am simultaneously recording. However once I more forward in the Timeshift to current time, it exits Timeshift mode and the trick works again.)

3). While recording and simultaneously watching, to get rid of the Counter number in the upper left corner (so it's easier to view), I can use the Exit button. The Info button puts the Counter numbers back. The same two buttons work the same way, to view or not view the bar on the bottom of the screen, when in Timeshift mode.

I have V14 of the firmware.


Something additional I found today related to item #2 above- Let's say you are recording a program from 8pm - 9pm, and you're are away from the TV until 8:30pm. Then at 8:30pm you want to watch that show from the beginning while it's still being recorded. So you go into Timeshift mode by clicking Pause, then Play, then Rewind until you are at the beginning of the program. But what's going to happen at 9pm is that you will be kicked out of the program itself as the physical recording has just ended. (The first time I got kicked out of the program like that, I was initially aggravated thinking I was going to miss ever seeing the rest of the program. But then I found it was not a problem at all.) You then just need to go into USB mode and view the recording (just like you would any other recording). You will start at the beginning, but you can then easily fast forward to the part in the program where you got kicked out.
Edited by seattlemark - 1/4/14 at 2:14am
post #722 of 1233

I have just started using a (5400 rpm green) Seagate Backup 4 Tbyte external USB 3 hard disk drive with the Homeworx HW-150PVR.  It was on boxing day sale for about CDN$159.95.  I expect that in a few years there will be 20 Tbyte HDD available inexpensively:  plan for the future rather than cling to the past. For example in 1982 10 Mbyte HDD were available, but by 1991 SCSI 2 Gbyte HDDs became available. In 2001 40 Gbyte HDD became available. In 2010 2 Tbyte were on store shelves. By now, you should see the trend... Every few years storage capacity increases significantly. Just wait a short time and 4k Ultra HD might be compressed onto the airwaves and the resulting file sizes will be huge, needing the growing HDD capacities.

 

The 4 Tbyte Seagate Backup HDD was easily detected.  The free disk space was displayed as 3.7+ Tbytes. I recorded 2 scheduled programs: 14 Gbytes, and 20 Gbytes.

 

When I pressed the USB button on the IR remote, the PVR hung for a number of seconds, then the PVR spontaneously rebooted, however, the alternative way to access recordings is via a longer button sequence: Menu, arrow keys to USB, OK on USB, then the file system was displayed rather than the machine crashing.  I could navigate to the folder where the shows were recorded, then select and play them back. The USB navigation should start in the folder / directory where PVR recordings are normally situated in order to save lots of IR remote button presses. For example, the root directory of the HDD could have 500+ preexisting files stored so that many IR remote key presses of the direction / arrow buttons would have to happen just to find and select the PVR's folder for its TV program recordings.

 

When I first had pressed the USB button and the PVR rebooted, I shut the system down, then connected the HDD to my Windows 7 computer where I found no file system corruption and was able to see the saved files and run MediaInfo on them that showed that the .mts files were mpeg-2 and had several audio streams including 5.1 surround (6 channel).  I watched one of the shows via Windows Media player.  It seemed fine.  I then safely disconnected the HDD and reattached it to the HW-150PVR, then discovered the alternative Menu sequence to access and playback the two files.

 

If the PVR accesses the HDD via 32-bit offset integers rather than 64-bit, then I would expect that file system errors would start to happen when the disk space used approached, then exceeded the 2 Tbyte limit for 32-bit or 48-bit LBA systems.

 

I noticed that most USB 2 external enclosures had maximum capacities of 2 Tbytes, but those of USB 3 drives were quoted as the maximum size of a HDD at the time of product manufacture.  I also got a Vantec USB 3 / eSata HDD enclosure that can hold and use a 4 Tbyte HDD so that if the Homeworx HW-150PVR could not access the 4 Tbyte unit, I could use one of my existing other HDDs in the USB 3 / eSata enclosure.

 

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I just noticed that the pause / time shift buffer: it is way too small.  The configuration menu selection for pause / time shift buffer size should not be specified in Gbytes, but instead in minutes or hours, and instead of having a fixed set of 4 or 6 choices for the pause / time shift size setting, the amount should be a double floating point value.  The rational for this assessment is that I wanted to be able to see what was on 8 hours ago, but could only rewind about 5 to 20 minutes or so, depending on the bandwidth compression of the mpeg-2 stream from the originating TV station.

 

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The pause / time shifting function should be the default, ongoing activity of the PVR so that live TV can be paused - time shifted or rewound at any time.  A part of the pause buffer could also be "included" in any current show that is selected for recording.

 

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A recording and a time shift / pause operation should be transparently identical.  This means that the user should be able to pause a Booked / scheduled recording, then rewind it, fast forward and so on.

 

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The EPG, current show selection, schedule / Book a recording function should not reject a user's request if the station's scheduled time for the start time of the show has already elapsed.  This never happens in a Cable TV company's HD PVR such as the Scientific Atlanta / Cisco Explorer 8300HD.  On this PVR the user has to arrow to the start time and guess as to what the current time plus 1 minute would be, then enter it quickly in the provided space, then OK the recording Booking / schedule item in order for the PVR to accept it and do the desired show recording. The longer this process takes to do, or if the user has to guess the time too far in the future, the more of the TV show recording is missed in the mean time.  If  the above suggestion of the pause / time shifting is done, then none of the current show's recording would be missed by the PVR--a very good feature that routinely happens on the Cable TV company's Scientific Atlanta / Cisco Explorer 8300HD PVR.

 

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When the user leaves the PVR tuned to a TV-station with an inaccurate Date/Time stamp, a scheduled / booked recording on a different channel having somehow a different Date/Time stamp, the recording start up can be missed.  When I switched to the needed station, the PVR then began the recording, but was 6 or more minutes late to have included the beginning of the scheduled / booked TV show.

 

This key unreliable time keeping bug of this PVR is a key reason why its sales are not higher because product reviewers who see this happen only see a very broken / error prone functionality that is not easily explainable.

 

Two solutions to this problem are as follows:  maintain a local copy of a designated accurate date/time stamp, or always keep a date/time stamp set initially by the user.  The user could specify a particular TV channel where they feel that the station maintains the most accurate date time stamp.  Should there be a power failure, the PVR could recover "the accurate date / time" by visiting first the user-specified TV channel to get this value upon first reboot (or whatever).  This reference time would be used as a benchmark time for scheduling on other channels whose date/time stamps could be inaccurate.  The PVR would then know to compute date/times adjusted to the reference / PVR maintained time rather than the other TV station's EPG provided date/times.  In fact, the other TV station's EPG - provided date/times could be adjusted and displayed in reference time "units."

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The IR receiver is not very responsive.  Either or both problems should be addressed: (1) the IR sensor receiver circuitry is badly implemented, (2) the software is designed with too low a priority assigned to the task of IR remote signal handling so that codes can go missing on a frequent basis.  If the CPU is too slow, upgrade its speed in future production.  If the operating system is not multitasking with a wide variety of tasking priorities, then improve it so that it is better. Test the results so that the slow IR response is fixed up nicely.

post #723 of 1233
Couldn't find an answer to this question concerning outputting sound to a Panny via HDMI while watching OTA:

Using the HW-150PVR with either a Panasonic Plasma (s2) or a Panasonic LED(C3) via HDMI ... I cannot get any sound. I tried editing the "Digital Audio" (option tab from the PVR) ... RAW HDMI, RAW, PCM will no affect. While I was doing the various setup changes ... at one point I got like a half second of sound (can't recall what I was changing at that time) . Switched out HDMI cables (3 times) and still no help. Doubled checked the TV audio feature (Advanced audio) ... it's set to digital. So that is correctly setup - no problem when I use that setup for my Bluray player.

No problems getting sound if I use the RCA plugs. Or when I setup the unit to "loop through" so that I can watch and record different channels using the coaxial cable. So the problem must lie in the HDMI section.


I tried a replacement 150PVR unit ... from another BestBUY store but get the same problem. What are the chances that 2 stores from the same chain got defective units? Should I try one more time? I saw some boxes that look like the seals were replaced. Too neat to be customer returns ... possible Company refurnished or reboxed units. Maybe I should try thoses.

Is anyone experiencing the same issues? Is anyone successful using the same type of displays with this PVR?

Thanks for any suggestions.
post #724 of 1233
Anyone know if there is a discreet power on and power off command for the HomeWorx?

I'd like to automate power on and off without using a toggle.
post #725 of 1233
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Originally Posted by Thxtheater View Post

Anyone know if there is a discreet power on and power off command for the HomeWorx?

I'd like to automate power on and off without using a toggle.

I don't believe so. "Power on and off" from standby.
post #726 of 1233
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Originally Posted by 2flags View Post

Couldn't find an answer to this question concerning outputting sound to a Panny via HDMI while watching OTA:

Using the HW-150PVR with either a Panasonic Plasma (s2) or a Panasonic LED(C3) via HDMI ... I cannot get any sound. I tried editing the "Digital Audio" (option tab from the PVR) ... RAW HDMI, RAW, PCM will no affect. While I was doing the various setup changes ... at one point I got like a half second of sound (can't recall what I was changing at that time) . Switched out HDMI cables (3 times) and still no help. Doubled checked the TV audio feature (Advanced audio) ... it's set to digital. So that is correctly setup - no problem when I use that setup for my Bluray player.

No problems getting sound if I use the RCA plugs. Or when I setup the unit to "loop through" so that I can watch and record different channels using the coaxial cable. So the problem must lie in the HDMI section.


I tried a replacement 150PVR unit ... from another BestBUY store but get the same problem. What are the chances that 2 stores from the same chain got defective units? Should I try one more time? I saw some boxes that look like the seals were replaced. Too neat to be customer returns ... possible Company refurnished or reboxed units. Maybe I should try thoses.

Is anyone experiencing the same issues? Is anyone successful using the same type of displays with this PVR?

Thanks for any suggestions.
Oddly, a couple of us have been having exactly the opposite problem: no sound from RCA jacks, but HDMI works fine. RCA jacks do produce sound for a split second when pressing certain buttons: Power off, Mute, HDMI.

Our problem seems to be due to running new firmware (V13 or V14) on older hardware. (Homeworx changed the layout of the remote, and we wanted firmware for the new layout.) So maybe different firmware would help in your case too.

What firmware version did your Homeworx come with?
post #727 of 1233
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Originally Posted by Thxtheater View Post

Anyone know if there is a discreet power on and power off command for the HomeWorx?

I'd like to automate power on and off without using a toggle.
Don't believe it exists, but it should be easy to add to the firmware - if we could just get Mediasonic to start enhancing their firmware instead of changing the box's internal hardware every few weeks rolleyes.gif
post #728 of 1233
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Originally Posted by 2flags View Post

Couldn't find an answer to this question concerning outputting sound to a Panny via HDMI while watching OTA:

Using the HW-150PVR with either a Panasonic Plasma (s2) or a Panasonic LED(C3) via HDMI ... I cannot get any sound. I tried editing the "Digital Audio" (option tab from the PVR) ... RAW HDMI, RAW, PCM will no affect. While I was doing the various setup changes ... at one point I got like a half second of sound (can't recall what I was changing at that time) . Switched out HDMI cables (3 times) and still no help. Doubled checked the TV audio feature (Advanced audio) ... it's set to digital. So that is correctly setup - no problem when I use that setup for my Bluray player.

No problems getting sound if I use the RCA plugs. Or when I setup the unit to "loop through" so that I can watch and record different channels using the coaxial cable. So the problem must lie in the HDMI section.


I tried a replacement 150PVR unit ... from another BestBUY store but get the same problem. What are the chances that 2 stores from the same chain got defective units? Should I try one more time? I saw some boxes that look like the seals were replaced. Too neat to be customer returns ... possible Company refurnished or reboxed units. Maybe I should try thoses.

Is anyone experiencing the same issues? Is anyone successful using the same type of displays with this PVR?

Thanks for any suggestions.
I have the same TV Panasonic Plasma(s2) 58inch. Experience the same issue. My solution to make it works on S2 are
1. (not working with V12 Firmware)use Panasonic remote, select htmi for HW-150PVR(no sound) and press Panasonic "MENU" ->Press down botton to "Audio" ->Press "OK" to Advance Audio -> press "OK" to HDMI1or2or3 "Digital"
-->press right arrow key to "Component 1" and press left arrowKey back to "Digital", Sound for HDMI should sound.
2. connect an white+red wire from HW150 Audio ouput to Panasonic S2 component audio input (below HDMI input)
Press Panasonic "Menu"->"Audio"->"Advance Audio"->HDMI Digital->press right arrow to "Component 1 or 2". Sound should should be out.

I wish either 1 or 2 method work for you. I call up Panasonic support and look like this is a issue on Panasonic. However S2 is out of support(old product). They can do nothing.

I just upgrade my HW150 to V12 firmware and test #1 and #2 again. #1 Does not work anymore, Only #2 work. I find when HW150 HDMI pass through my Yamaha home theater. HDMI audo work. This only work if you have home theater system.
My connection is
Panasonic HDMI(1.4) to Yamaha HT receiver, Yamaho HT receiver HDMI 1 connect to HW150 HDMI output.
Edited by png5 - 1/4/14 at 3:07pm
post #729 of 1233
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Originally Posted by JHBrandt View Post

Don't believe it exists, but it should be easy to add to the firmware - if we could just get Mediasonic to start enhancing their firmware instead of changing the box's internal hardware every few weeks rolleyes.gif
What's needed to do that? I'm sure it's a simple addition
post #730 of 1233
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Originally Posted by seattlemark View Post


Something additional I found today related to item #2 above- Let's say you are recording a program from 8pm - 9pm, and you're are away from the TV until 8:30pm. Then at 8:30pm you want to watch that show from the beginning while it's still being recorded. So you go into Timeshift mode by clicking Pause, then Play, then Rewind until you are at the beginning of the program. But what's going to happen at 9pm is that you will be kicked out of the program itself as the physical recording has just ended. (The first time I got kicked out of the program like that, I was initially aggravated thinking I was going to miss ever seeing the rest of the program. But then I found it was not a problem at all.) You then just need to go into USB mode and view the recording (just like you would any other recording). You will start at the beginning, but you can then easily fast forward to the part in the program where you got kicked out.


I don't have my unit working right now (sent it back to Newegg for warranty replacement) so I'm not absolutely certain if I remember this right, but I think you can just hit Play while recording to cause it to start from the beginning, rather than Pause>Play>Rewind. It still dumps you out when the recording ceases though.

post #731 of 1233
Hey guys, I just bought one and love it! I just have one issue I'm trying to see if there's a solution but my guess is there is not. I searched but couldn't find anything so here it is. Basically when I schedule a recording for any show on WPBA-TV Channel No. 30-1 the "Program" and "Channel Name" show up but eventually disappears and the channel no. changes to 8696-32782. When this happens the scheduled recording fails to record. No other channel does this. I have also seen the Program and Channel Name re-appear after disappearing. Any ideas how to "fix" this? Thanks in advance!

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post #732 of 1233
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Originally Posted by rdwalt View Post

Hey guys, I just bought one and love it! I just have one issue I'm trying to see if there's a solution but my guess is there is not. I searched but couldn't find anything so here it is. Basically when I schedule a recording for any show on WPBA-TV Channel No. 30-1 the "Program" and "Channel Name" show up but eventually disappears and the channel no. changes to 8696-32782. When this happens the scheduled recording fails to record. No other channel does this. I have also seen the Program and Channel Name re-appear after disappearing. Any ideas how to "fix" this? Thanks in advance!

Best to do a factory reset and start over. This happens occasionally. Sometimes you can "fix" it by deleting all recordings, rescanning your channels, and rescheduling, but it tends to happen again quicker than if you just do a factory reset. And really if you do all that other stuff, you might as well do a factory reset anyway since the rescanning and rescheduling are the most time consuming part of doing a reset.
post #733 of 1233
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Originally Posted by JHBrandt View Post

Oddly, a couple of us have been having exactly the opposite problem: no sound from RCA jacks, but HDMI works fine. RCA jacks do produce sound for a split second when pressing certain buttons: Power off, Mute, HDMI.

Our problem seems to be due to running new firmware (V13 or V14) on older hardware. (Homeworx changed the layout of the remote, and we wanted firmware for the new layout.) So maybe different firmware would help in your case too.

What firmware version did your Homeworx come with?

That's very interesting. Tthe total opposite.

I have the new remote layout and the installed version is v13. HW version: 7816-ATSC-03
post #734 of 1233
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Originally Posted by png5 View Post

I have the same TV Panasonic Plasma(s2) 58inch. Experience the same issue. My solution to make it works on S2 are
1. (not working with V12 Firmware)use Panasonic remote, select htmi for HW-150PVR(no sound) and press Panasonic "MENU" ->Press down botton to "Audio" ->Press "OK" to Advance Audio -> press "OK" to HDMI1or2or3 "Digital"
-->press right arrow key to "Component 1" and press left arrowKey back to "Digital", Sound for HDMI should sound.
2. connect an white+red wire from HW150 Audio ouput to Panasonic S2 component audio input (below HDMI input)
Press Panasonic "Menu"->"Audio"->"Advance Audio"->HDMI Digital->press right arrow to "Component 1 or 2". Sound should should be out.

I wish either 1 or 2 method work for you. I call up Panasonic support and look like this is a issue on Panasonic. However S2 is out of support(old product). They can do nothing.

I just upgrade my HW150 to V12 firmware and test #1 and #2 again. #1 Does not work anymore, Only #2 work. I find when HW150 HDMI pass through my Yamaha home theater. HDMI audo work. This only work if you have home theater system.
My connection is
Panasonic HDMI(1.4) to Yamaha HT receiver, Yamaho HT receiver HDMI 1 connect to HW150 HDMI output.

I'll have to try #1. Currently using the #2 option. I wonder why you say this is a Panasonic issue ... I would think that HDMI is a standard - regardless of the source device. Does your Blu-ray player work on the other HDMI ports? Because when I try my working HDMI port (used for Bluray) the Homeworx still doesn't output the sound (using the same cables setup).

Unfortuantely I don't have a home theatre receiver to test the pass through on.


Update:

Tried #1 - Doesn't work on V13 either. The only step that I wasn't sure about was when you say " select htmi for HW-150PVR(no sound) " Which one? RAW, PCM or RAW HDMI on? What version were you able get this to work on?
Edited by 2flags - 1/5/14 at 6:58pm
post #735 of 1233
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Originally Posted by 2flags View Post

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Originally Posted by JHBrandt View Post

Oddly, a couple of us have been having exactly the opposite problem: no sound from RCA jacks, but HDMI works fine. RCA jacks do produce sound for a split second when pressing certain buttons: Power off, Mute, HDMI.

Our problem seems to be due to running new firmware (V13 or V14) on older hardware. (Homeworx changed the layout of the remote, and we wanted firmware for the new layout.) So maybe different firmware would help in your case too.

What firmware version did your Homeworx come with?

That's very interesting. The total opposite.

I have the new remote layout and the installed version is v13. HW version: 7816-ATSC-03
IIR Mediasonic's previous posts, firmware versions V8 and V14 should also work on your Homeworx. Supposedly they all have the same features (except V8 lacks the Homeworx logo when powering up), but I figure they're worth a try if you can get Mediasonic to send all three versions to you. Just make sure they send you a copy of V13 in case the others are worse and you want to switch back.

You'd think HDMI would be a standard, but there always seem to be weird cases like this where two "standard" devices just refuse to work properly together. Good luck experimenting; maybe some combo of firmware and settings will do the trick.
Edited by JHBrandt - 1/5/14 at 8:42pm
post #736 of 1233
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Originally Posted by Thxtheater View Post

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Originally Posted by JHBrandt View Post

Don't believe it exists, but it should be easy to add to the firmware - if we could just get Mediasonic to start enhancing their firmware instead of changing the box's internal hardware every few weeks rolleyes.gif
What's needed to do that? I'm sure it's a simple addition
It probably starts with customer demand. If enough folks request dedicated "power on" and "power off" remote codes, in addition to the existing combined "toggle power on/off" code, Mediasonic could order new firmware with that feature from the OEM. As long as they documented the added codes, they wouldn't even need new remotes - the new codes could be meant for use only with Harmony remotes or IR blasters.

But I'd expect Mediasonic's top priority for any new firmware to be bug fixes, and so far, Mediasonic has done very little about their firmware. V10 was a bug-fix release, V8 was a minor enhancement (new remote layout), and V13 was a minor bug fix (V8 was missing the HW logo) - and that's about it. Everything lately has been to support internal hardware changes - which also complicates any new firmware orders, since it has to work with all the slight hardware variations out there frown.gif
post #737 of 1233
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Originally Posted by 2flags View Post

I'll have to try #1. Currently using the #2 option. I wonder why you say this is a Panasonic issue ...


Tried #1 - Doesn't work on V13 either. The only step that I wasn't sure about was when you say " select htmi for HW-150PVR(no sound) " Which one? RAW, PCM or RAW HDMI on? What version were you able get this to work on?

Q1: Why I think is Panasonic problem?
When I connect my HW150 HDMI through Yamaha Home Threater Receiver, HDMI sound work. Only connect directly to
Panasonic HDMI port, there is missing HDMI audio. When I do the google search on Panasonic S2, there were number on complain on HDMI audio issue
and all type of resolution. That why I conclude this is more on Pansonic HDMI side.

Q2: select htmi for HW-150PVR(no sound) " Which one? RAW, PCM or RAW HDMI on? What version were you able get this to work on?
I alway use HDMI audio "RAW HDMI ON", if there is problem, I shall try all "RAW","PCM" and "RAW HDMI ON". What FIRMWARE version, when I first get HW150 May 2013,
all schedule not working and keep updating firmware until about July 2013 FW version, everything start working. I don't remember what exactly FIRMWARE version work. To make firmware more confusion, I have another older version of IVIEW3500STB using HW150 firmware , now IVIEW3500 is switch back to later version of IVIEW 3500 FW. If you really want to try, should start with Firmware release around July - August 2013.
The reason why I set to "RAW HDMI ON", sound from my Yamaha amp, sound a bit more distince especial the sub-woofer output on music show.

Update:
For #1: I reload FW V10 Date 07/15/2013 and HDMI audio for Panasonic S2 fail to work. I can only work with HDMI audio through Yamaha AMP HDMI.
Look like #1 does not work with HW150, only work with IV3500 FW V6a or older. Sorry for the miss-information.
Edited by png5 - 1/5/14 at 10:01pm
post #738 of 1233
2flags: from the previous post, it sounds as if iView firmware may work - but don't try it unless you have an iView remote control (or Harmony set to emulate one)! Otherwise you won't be able to operate your Homeworx after updating the firmware.
post #739 of 1233

This is sort of a meta-question: Am I the only one here who thinks it's senseless to group all possible discussion about a particular device into a single thread, over 700 messages long? Having a subforum dedicated to the Homeworx HW-150PVR would allow for separate threads dealing with different issues, as well as "pinned" threads to contain reference information and FAQs.

post #740 of 1233
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Originally Posted by jdmx View Post

This is sort of a meta-question: Am I the only one here who thinks it's senseless to group all possible discussion about a particular device into a single thread, over 700 messages long? Having a subforum dedicated to the Homeworx HW-150PVR would allow for separate threads dealing with different issues, as well as "pinned" threads to contain reference information and FAQs.

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post #741 of 1233
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Originally Posted by jdmx View Post
 

This is sort of a meta-question: Am I the only one here who thinks it's senseless to group all possible discussion about a particular device into a single thread, over 700 messages long? Having a subforum dedicated to the Homeworx HW-150PVR would allow for separate threads dealing with different issues, as well as "pinned" threads to contain reference information and FAQs.

 

Yes, with so few DVR's available the Homeworx is attracting a lot of attention, especially at that price! I support your observation that we're getting too many posts here for easy reference. It would be better if it could be broken up somehow.

 

Another related thing I'd like to see is a forum and table comparing and contrasting all the siblings/clones of the Homeworx, iView, etc. I understand they all use the same chip and only the firmware is different. This was suggested by someone else earlier, but I don't think it ever happened.

 

I don't know how the subforums work - is that something that a Moderator has to set up, or could you do it yourself?


Edited by laridae - 1/6/14 at 1:23pm
post #742 of 1233
I agree, though your idea probably goes double for other popular DVRs, such as TiVo, the DTVPal, etc. If we had a subforum dedicated to iView, Homeworx, and their clones, it'd probably be easier for someone with a question to scan through various thread topics rather than trying to search one long thread like this. If they didn't see their question covered, they could start a new thread instead of extending this one.

The thing I'm not sure about, though, is how you'd switch formats this far in. I guess you could start with this thread and the iView thread being pinned threads; then maybe folks could create more threads summarizing info that's already been covered. If they were good, they could be pinned as well.
post #743 of 1233

I just sent a PM to Scott Wilkinson, the AVS Forums community manager, requesting the creation of a new subforum dedicated to the Homeworx HW-150. I also asked him to come here to the thread to respond. Hopefully, he'll reply soon.

post #744 of 1233
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Originally Posted by JHBrandt View Post

The thing I'm not sure about, though, is how you'd switch formats this far in. I guess you could start with this thread and the iView thread being pinned threads; then maybe folks could create more threads summarizing info that's already been covered. If they were good, they could be pinned as well.

 

Ideally, a moderator could go through and parse the existing mega-thread into separate threads covering each subtopic. Otherwise, the mega-thread could be closed (set to not allow new replies) and kept in the new subforum as a pinned "archive" thread.

post #745 of 1233
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Originally Posted by freeota View Post

just bought the HW-150 PVR. Connected the Coaxial cable from my antenna to the RF IN of HW-150PVR, connected HDMI out to HDMI-IN of my Receiver and then turn on my projector, no signal!! not sure whats going on ? Any help will be great!

Try to isolate the problem. Are you seeing a Homeworx display telling you there's no signal (i.e., no RF in), or are you seeing a "no signal" display from your TV? Homeworx displays are generally white text on a gray background.

If it's the former, you may just need to go through the setup options on the Homeworx menu. Press Menu on the Homeworx remote. The menu should come up and you can go through the setup to scan for channels. If it doesn't find any channels, check the obvious (cable connected to RF in, not RF out; cable is tight; another tuner works, etc.) before giving up on the Homeworx.

If the latter, you probably have an HDMI handshaking issue. Try the HDMI button on the Homeworx remote to change resolutions, or try component cables, just to see if you can get a display.
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Thanks for all the info. I have v10 firmware, hope it is the non qam version. It is "HW-150PVR Firmware V10.zip" extracts to "usb_upgrade_all_flash.bin" with a size of 3154KB and a date of 7/15/13 3:32AM. I will try it on the iview, won't even have to change the Harmony remote, just take my upstairs remote that is for the HW-150.

I've got so many different versions on my flash drive I can barely make heads or tails of what is what. Time to purge.
Wondering if you tried V10 on your iView yet. I'm thinking of getting another box, and I'm trying to decide whether to get a new HW, or get an iView and put HW firmware on it. If V10 works (without the L/R audio issue), I'll probably go with the iView since it's usually a few $ cheaper and I still have that old HW remote....
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Will the HW-150 ever get and "Electron Program Guide" or will it forever only record Time and channel?
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Will the HW-150 ever get and "Electron Program Guide" or will it forever only record Time and channel?

What are you talking about? It's always had an EPG. It takes some time to populate, and I don't usually bother with it, but if you want it, it's always been there.
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You can view stations' PSIP guides, but the guide data only serves as a reference to help you set your timers.
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I don't foresee any major EPG enhancements (unless you count the XBox OneGuide, which involves adding another whole expensive box). The HW doesn't have any way to connect to the Internet, so it has to rely on PSIP for its guide info.

It's theoretically possible to do a grid-style guide with PSIP data - the DTVPal does it - but most stations broadcast only 12-24 hours of guide data, so the HW would have to periodically scan all channels and build a guide database for such a thing to work. Since the HW only has one tuner, it could only do that when in standby. When on, the grid-style guide would gradually get out-of-date, except for the current channel. Also, I doubt the HW has enough memory to build a full grid-style guide in memory. Of course, it could build it on the HDD, but then it wouldn't work if no HDD was attached, so the firmware would have to fall back to the current style in that situation. Sounds like a lot of complicated programming.

It's also possible to do Tivo-style name-based recording with a PSIP guide - the CM-7400 and DVR+ do it - but again, it's tricky. Stations sometimes use "placeholder" names (like "TBA") for shows when they haven't entered the guide data into their PSIP encoders yet. If the show name changes between the time you set it to record and the time it actually records, name-based recording won't work.

Perhaps if Mediasonic decides to market a new, improved box with two tuners and more internal memory, it could happen someday.
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