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post #961 of 1229
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Originally Posted by dornanu View Post

Hi All,
Can this box convert the ATSC signal onto the RF out? So to be clear the only connection to the TV would be the RF out to the TV tuner (TV would dial channel 3) and I would be able to use this to watch ATSC OTA. I suspect I'm in for disappointment since it supports analog passthrough and any device I've seen with this can't do what I want. Also there is no channel selector.
I haven't done it, but I'm pretty sure that it can. There's a setting named something like, Ch_3_Mod_out on/off.
post #962 of 1229

Yes, for the RF out you have a choice of Ch3, Ch4, or "Loop" - ie pass-through unchanged which you can then tune with your TV's own tuner.

 

If you are thinking of buying a unit that will do this, make sure you get new stock. Older units running firmware V10 will not loop-through the coax unless the unit is turned On (a major pain and not the industry norm) And also the tuner in these units is very weak, compared to the newer units. If the unit is Off, the RF-out is dead, no signal at all.

 

Newer units running V14 will pass-through when turned off or on, but for some reason the signal strength is much Worse when the unit is On!

 

I have both an old unit bought online, and a new unit bought in person. The newer one seems a lot less flakey than the older one in general. The manufacturer has not been very forthright in identifying which is which so try to check before you buy. Caveat emptor!


Edited by laridae - 1/25/14 at 10:08am
post #963 of 1229
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Originally Posted by dornanu View Post

Also can the Homeworx output to all of it's outputs (Video, component and HDMI) simultaneously?

 

Duplicate.

See response below.


Edited by laridae - 1/25/14 at 10:26am
post #964 of 1229
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Originally Posted by dornanu View Post

Also can the Homeworx output to all of it's outputs (Video, component and HDMI) simultaneously?

Thanks

 

Yes, it outputs to all at the same time, and I find this useful; I have the HDMI going directly to my TV, and I have the Component output daisy-chaining into the Line In of my old Sony PVR because I like its UI better. Thus, in this case I'm just using the HW as kind of a programmable tuner. But it's kind of a pain because I have to program everything twice so I only do this for recurring shows I watch weekly.

post #965 of 1229

I currently own the iview-3500STB, i tried firmware V14 but there was no sound...Which Homeworx HW-150PVR firmware works best on the ivies-3500STB?

post #966 of 1229
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Originally Posted by madmic21 View Post

I currently own the iview-3500STB, i tried firmware V14 but there was no sound...Which Homeworx HW-150PVR firmware works best on the ivies-3500STB?

I think v10 is your best bet. I haven't heard of anyone with the original iview who had any problem running that. I've run v10 and v12 for months at a time each with no problem on my iview 3500.
post #967 of 1229

Can i get a link to V10 or V12?

post #968 of 1229
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Originally Posted by madmic21 View Post

Can i get a link to V10 or V12?

I posted v10 here before. Give me a minute or two to find it and I will edit this post.

Edit: here in post 256 - http://www.avsforum.com/t/1482341/homeworx-hw-150pvr-support-and-discussion/240_60#post_23711905
post #969 of 1229

Thanks a bunch for the help 

post #970 of 1229
bemoore & laridae: Thanks I ran out today and bought one. I'm waiting until the kids go to bed before I tackle swapping it into my set up.

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Originally Posted by laridae View Post

If you are thinking of buying a unit that will do this, make sure you get new stock. Older units running firmware V10 will not loop-through the coax unless the unit is turned On (a major pain and not the industry norm) And also the tuner in these units is very weak, compared to the newer units. If the unit is Off, the RF-out is dead, no signal at all.

Newer units running V14 will pass-through when turned off or on, but for some reason the signal strength is much Worse when the unit is On!

It came with the new remote so I assume it is a new version. I'll check the firmware later.

I had been following the Iview thread and it seemed the consensus this is the better unit. But I haven't really read through this entire thread yet.
post #971 of 1229
Anyone know if the USB port on the unit is a USB 3 or USB 2? Thanks.
post #972 of 1229
It doesn't matter. USB 3 is backwards-compatible with USB 2, and there is no point in paying the extra money for a USB 3 drive. A DVR can't use the extra speed.
post #973 of 1229
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Originally Posted by Aleron Ives View Post

It doesn't matter. USB 3 is backwards-compatible with USB 2, and there is no point in paying the extra money for a USB 3 drive. A DVR can't use the extra speed.

Thanks. I was wondering if I should buy a USB3 cable vs the cheap USB2 cable. I figure with all the inserting/removal of the USB cable (from the harddrive or flash drive - rename the files and move it to the "movie section") from the PVR, that eventually the PVR USB port would suffer. If I use a short patch cable, then the wear and tear would be on the cable female end rather than the PVR port.

Cheers.
post #974 of 1229
Yes, that is a wise strategy. I do the same thing to avoid wearing out the sole USB port on my TV.
post #975 of 1229
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Originally Posted by jprc View Post

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Originally Posted by madmic21 View Post

I currently own the iview-3500STB, i tried firmware V14 but there was no sound...Which Homeworx HW-150PVR firmware works best on the ivies-3500STB?
I think v10 is your best bet. I haven't heard of anyone with the original iview who had any problem running that. I've run v10 and v12 for months at a time each with no problem on my iview 3500.
V13 and v14 are known to disable the L/R audio outputs on older Homeworxes and iViews. (But HDMI audio still works.) v10 or v12 work, but they use the original remote layout, so if you have a newer Homeworx remote, several buttons may not function as expected.

FYI: v10 is OTA only; v12 was the first QAM-enabled version.
Newer Homeworx version numbers don't necessarily increase: the next firmware versions released were, in order, v8, v13, v14, and finally v1. rolleyes.gif
Also, after v12 Mediasonic stopped using different numbers for OTA and QAM-enabled firmware. So the QAM versions are just v8 QAM, v13 QAM, etc.
v8 uses the new remote layout. I don't think anyone has tried it on an iView or older Homeworx yet, so it's possible that it doesn't disable the L/R audio like v13 and v14 do.
post #976 of 1229

Hello All, 

 

I am currently trying  to cut the cord with Dish Network and could use some help with my initial setup. I am using a Clearstream 4 Outdoor Antenna and a Homeworx HW-150PVR. I first removed the dish from the mount and  made sure all the coax cables were properly installed. The issue I am having at the moment is when I plug in the coax cable that used to run to the old DVR, the Homeworx HW-150PVR starts to smoke. At first I thought I was getting a defective PVR but when i received a replacement box the same thing happened without even plugging it in(only coax hooked up). I also noticed the green power light on which leads me to believe the coax cable is "hot." I am very inexperienced with the setup of an OTA antenna but is a hot coax cable even possible? Could it be I just received 2 defective boxes? Any input would be much appreciated. Thank you.

post #977 of 1229
If your cable is going through an amplifier, the voltage could be supplied by the amplifier. It could even shock you if you touch it, so be careful!
post #978 of 1229

thank you alfahill but there is no amplifier running through my connection. I seriously am confused on how to deal with this. I do not want to keep frying boxes if something is wrong with my setup.

post #979 of 1229
Satellite dishes have an amp at the focal point of the dish. The power for that amp is supplied by the satellite receiver. It sounds as if you still have a satellite receiver hooked up somewhere.

The only thing that should be hooked to your coax cable is the ClearStream 4 antenna on one end and the Homeworx on the other. Make sure everything else is disconnected, including splitters and the like, then (carefully) check the voltage at each end. If it's not zero, something is still hooked up somewhere; trace the coax until you find out what it could be.
post #980 of 1229

Thank you very much JH. I will try this hopefully this weekend and will keep this post updated.

post #981 of 1229

Thanks for the info, i used hdmi but still had no sound on V14...and since am using cable v10 isn't very useful...do you have a link for v12?

post #982 of 1229
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Originally Posted by JHBrandt View Post

Satellite dishes have an amp at the focal point of the dish. The power for that amp is supplied by the satellite receiver. It sounds as if you still have a satellite receiver hooked up somewhere.

The only thing that should be hooked to your coax cable is the ClearStream 4 antenna on one end and the Homeworx on the other. Make sure everything else is disconnected, including splitters and the like, then (carefully) check the voltage at each end. If it's not zero, something is still hooked up somewhere; trace the coax until you find out what it could be.


I concur with this statement. And that is why Power BYPASS is so important in the SATELLITE business for switches. If you image google SAT switches .... you will see this clearly labelled. If you want to hook up a SAT receiver along with your ClearStream Antenna .... you must get a switch or a splitter (depending on your setup) that has a port that does not pass power. A cheap splitter may still leak power so you best to use a voltage meter to test that line to be sure.
post #983 of 1229
Recording problem.

Last night, I programmed a recording manually. The EPG wouldn't load up. I'm guessing that the station isn't broadcasting an EPG, so I entered it manually. Anyway, this morning, I checked my recording, and it wasn't there. I've done a test recording earlier, and it worked. The only difference is that on that recording, I programmed it using the EPG, and it was on a different channel. The program entry for last night's failed recording was also gone, as if it had worked. I checked to make sure I didn't specify the wrong day. Prior to the recording time, I had the tuner in standby. After the recording time had passed, the tuner was on (green light).

Any ideas?

Also, I noticed on the Schedule screen (that shows programmed recordings), the last column on the right is Status. Nowhere in the manual is that explained. Anybody know what it is?

Thanks.
post #984 of 1229
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Originally Posted by bemoore View Post

Recording problem.

Last night, I programmed a recording manually. The EPG wouldn't load up. I'm guessing that the station isn't broadcasting an EPG, so I entered it manually. Anyway, this morning, I checked my recording, and it wasn't there. I've done a test recording earlier, and it worked. The only difference is that on that recording, I programmed it using the EPG, and it was on a different channel. The program entry for last night's failed recording was also gone, as if it had worked. I checked to make sure I didn't specify the wrong day. Prior to the recording time, I had the tuner in standby. After the recording time had passed, the tuner was on (green light).

Any ideas?

Also, I noticed on the Schedule screen (that shows programmed recordings), the last column on the right is Status. Nowhere in the manual is that explained. Anybody know what it is?

Thanks.

There are a variety of possibilities. The first thing that comes to mind is that if you were not getting EPG info from the station, you may not have been getting time from the station either. So check the time on that channel. Another possibility is that it's a channel that re-tunes multiple times upon first changing to it. If that's the case you will have to leave it on that channel and leave the convertor box on instead of in standby when you want to record that channel. Another is just one of the random bugs you will experience from time to time when a recording will not record or a schedule will get deleted.
post #985 of 1229
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Originally Posted by jprc View Post

There are a variety of possibilities. The first thing that comes to mind is that if you were not getting EPG info from the station, you may not have been getting time from the station either. So check the time on that channel.
I'm getting accurate time on another channel. Can't the PVR use that time? If not, what's the solution?

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Originally Posted by jprc View Post

Another possibility is that it's a channel that re-tunes multiple times upon first changing to it. If that's the case you will have to leave it on that channel and leave the convertor box on instead of in standby when you want to record that channel.
What does this mean? I'm an EE, so I understand RF, tuning, etc. But I don't understand "re-tunes multiple times upon first changing to it". Does this mean that I'm not going to be able to program multiple recordings on multiple channels, and have the programs reliably recorded? I can't leave the tuner tuned to the specific channel to be recorded if I'm going to gone for multiple days, and have recordings set for multiple channels.

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Originally Posted by jprc View Post

Another is just one of the random bugs you will experience from time to time when a recording will not record or a schedule will get deleted.
I hope that's not going to be a common thing.
post #986 of 1229
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Originally Posted by bemoore View Post

Can't the PVR use that time?
Let me clarify. Lets say I tune to ch 19, and I get an accurate time signal. Then I tune to a channel without a time signal, or... I have a recording scheduled for a ch without a time signal. Won't the PVR use the time that was established while tuned to ch 19?
post #987 of 1229
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Originally Posted by bemoore View Post

I'm getting accurate time on another channel. Can't the PVR use that time? If not, what's the solution?
What does this mean? I'm an EE, so I understand RF, tuning, etc. But I don't understand "re-tunes multiple times upon first changing to it". Does this mean that I'm not going to be able to program multiple recordings on multiple channels, and have the programs reliably recorded? I can't leave the tuner tuned to the specific channel to be recorded if I'm going to gone for multiple days, and have recordings set for multiple channels.
I hope that's not going to be a common thing.

If you are not getting time on a channel, the best thing to do is leave it on channel that does get accurate time and leave the box on all the time. This is not foolproof, but can work. The homeworx gets the time from each channel it is tuned to as soon as it receives the PSIP info from that station. However recordings are done on a timer basis, not time of day basis, once they are started. So if you can get the recording to start properly based on the time from a working channel, it should record properly even though it is not getting the right time from the recording station.

By "re-tune" I mean that when you first change to the channel, it will tune it in, go black, tune it in, go black and tune it in again. This is related PSIP but we don't know exactly what is happening. But the result is that the recording will not start properly. If you leave it on that channel it will not have to deal with that and will record properly.
post #988 of 1229
The Homeworx is particularly bad about re-tuning Ion stations. That may be related to the encrypted "Airbox" channels many Ion affiliates broadcast. The Homeworx is also bad about re-adding subchannels that had been deleted or marked as skipped when it re-tunes a station, although I haven't seen it as much on V14 firmware as was the case on V10, so they may have had some luck addressing that annoyance.
post #989 of 1229
This sounds like a possible Catch-22. The no-EPG channel is 54.1. The ch with EPG is 19.1. I performed a successful recording on ch 19.1 I know that it is broadcasting time properly. I'm not sure about ch 54.1. So... if 54.1 isn't broadcasting an EPG, and no PSIP, and it does the re-tuning thing... it sounds like a recording won't work if I leave the tuner on ch 19.1 (because of the re-tuning), and it won't work if I leave it on 54.1 (because of no PSIP). Is this right?

BTW, 54.1 is the local Fox affiliate. 19.1 is CBS. That shouldn't make a difference, but neither are ION.
post #990 of 1229
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Originally Posted by bemoore View Post

This sounds like a possible Catch-22. The no-EPG channel is 54.1. The ch with EPG is 19.1. I performed a successful recording on ch 19.1 I know that it is broadcasting time properly. I'm not sure about ch 54.1. So... if 54.1 isn't broadcasting an EPG, and no PSIP, and it does the re-tuning thing... it sounds like a recording won't work if I leave the tuner on ch 19.1 (because of the re-tuning), and it won't work if I leave it on 54.1 (because of no PSIP). Is this right?

BTW, 54.1 is the local Fox affiliate. 19.1 is CBS. That shouldn't make a difference, but neither are ION.

If you are talking about OTA and not cable, you should contact that station because they are supposed to be sending that information. If cable, they won't care.

What do you see if you hit info when on 54.1?

Do you know that 54.1 does the re-tuning or is this just hypothetical? In your case above, yes you would have a problem.
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