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Considering Focal electra 1007 S (not BE!) - First upgrade in years

post #1 of 20
Thread Starter 
Hi all,
I've seen some good deals on these at around $2,000 (such as music direct).
Haven't been able to find out much about these speakers.
I'm in a bit of a rush and would like to get a speaker as soon as possible.

I've had Paradigm titans for years and they are very good for their cost. I'm looking to upgrade the entire system (I'll buy a new receiver, probably a 5.1 one).

In the meantime I've heard the B&W CM5 which were good but not enough of an upgrade for me.

Your assistance is greatly appreciated.

Thanks!
post #2 of 20
I would never pay $2k for a 6.5" 2 way. Focal also has a pretty distinct sound, so you might not even like them, and being on clearance, you may have trouble finding a center channel down the road.
post #3 of 20
Thread Starter 
Could you please elaborate? I don't have the room for floor standing speakers so I must revert to bookshelf. Do you think it's useless to invest that much?
post #4 of 20
Are your bookshelf speakers not going on stands? If you are actually setting these speakers on shelves that is even more reason not to spend that much...

No matter high how of quality the drivers used are, a 6.5" 2 way is still limited by the capabilities of a 6.5" woofer matched to a (in this case) dome tweeter. A speaker with multiple cheaper drivers, or a larger woofer will easily surpass this speaker as soon as the volume knob gets turned slightly in distortion performance, and a 3 way with a smaller mid will have a far better power response. It is just a lot of money to pay for a limited design when there is so many more capable speakers available for less.
post #5 of 20
Thread Starter 
Yeah, they will be on spacious shelves.

Could I trouble you to offer some options for capable speakers for less?
I've heard the B&W CM5 which were pretty good but I was looking for more. Trying to find a place to listen to paradigm studios and PSB synchrony one B
post #6 of 20
Hopefully by spacious shelf you mean it's pretty wide open, or you're going to have a lot of reflection issues with any speaker. Anyway here's some monitor sized speakers that make more sense to me

If you have the ability to go up in budget, the first one is a true reference speaker in just about every way

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/LSR6332L?utm_source=Google&utm_medium=PPC&utm_campaign=recording&device=c&network=g&matchtype=&gclid=CP_tvM2jx7gCFUSCQgodmFoAkA

Street price on these is a lot less then $3k, AVS is a dealer
http://www.klipsch.com/kl-650-thx-bookshelf-speaker

A few just under $2k

http://www.musicdirect.com/p-53406-wharfedale-jade-3-bookshelf-speakers-pr.aspx

http://www.crutchfield.com/p_107LSI703C/Polk-Audio-LSi-M-703-Mount-Vernon-Cherry.html

A few budget options

http://www.proaudiodealer.com/jbl-ls40/

http://www.nhthifi.com/Three

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=301-977L
(there is a "right" version also)


There's other options out there of course, but that should give you an idea getting more for your money.
post #7 of 20
Thread Starter 
Greatly appreciated.
I see the JBL LSR6332 is available on ebay, used, for under $2K. I'll look for a place to listen to them
Thanks again!
post #8 of 20
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Originally Posted by Roi1 View Post

Greatly appreciated.
I see the JBL LSR6332 is available on ebay, used, for under $2K. I'll look for a place to listen to them
Thanks again!

That's a great deal! They are pro speakers so you cant find them at a hifi dealer, these speakers are literally used to mix THX approved sound tracks.

Getting them at that price, you might not have much issue selling them if for some reason they dont fit your needs.
post #9 of 20
Thread Starter 
Thanks. What kind of amplification will be needed for these?
post #10 of 20
Depends on how loud you're trying to go. You at least need something stable at 4 ohms. The speaker is legitimately rated at 200 watts continuous, 800 watts peak, so you can get a very beefy amp, or just a 4 ohm stable AVR like a Pioneer SC series
post #11 of 20
I'm not sure what your budget is, or what gear you already have so it's hard to comment on anything outside of your specific questions about components. I like having an outboard amp, but that was factored into my receiver budget. It's hard to recommend spending more then someone really needs. Something like this could be a good investment

http://shop.emotiva.com/collections/amplifiers/products/xpa3
post #12 of 20
If I were in your shoes, I would buy the Ascend Acoustics Sierra-1's with the NRT tweeter as they will be a huge step up from those B&W CM's, or those Focals, or even those JBL's, plus you can get the Sierra-1's for between $900 and $1,200 depending on options. They are comparable to bookshelf speakers costing over $3k to $4k. I would pair them with a used Denon AVR-3310 or similar.
post #13 of 20
Thread Starter 
Thanks. I just looked them up. Quite "cheap" compared to the other options. I see they deliver on-line. Tempting.
Can I listen to them anywhere?
Thanks again! I really appreciate all the answers.
post #14 of 20
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Originally Posted by Martycool007 View Post

If I were in your shoes, I would buy the Ascend Acoustics Sierra-1's with the NRT tweeter as they will be a huge step up from those B&W CM's, or those Focals, or even those JBL's, plus you can get the Sierra-1's for between $900 and $1,200 depending on options. They are comparable to bookshelf speakers costing over $3k to $4k. I would pair them with a used Denon AVR-3310 or similar.

How do you figure that? Especially compared to the JBL's. You're joking right...
post #15 of 20
Thread Starter 
post #16 of 20
Just so we're clear on how I'm looking at this. The Sierra's are a very nice mini monitor, and it does punch above its class. As good as the drivers are, a 5.25" woofer is still a 5.25" woofer, and 85 db sensitivity is just that. If your SPL requirements are low, then yes this speaker will floor you.

Now take the JBL, here we take a high power (2" voice coil) dedicated 5.25" midrange, and directivity match it to a 1" dome in a waveguide (sierra shows issues at 45 degrees), and we unload the bass requirements at 250hz to a high quality 12" JBL woofer. This greatly reduces both bass and midrange distortion, and improves total dynamic capability. Top to bottom it is a more advanced and superior design. Those features make it superior then a large majority of monitor sized HiFi speakers, price not considered.
post #17 of 20
Thread Starter 
I understand. Thanks for the clarification and of course physics are physics.
The only issue I had with the JBL is that they are not very attractive and may not "pass inspection".
post #18 of 20
Definitely a consideration. If it helps, the JBL's can be laid down sideways, the tweeter/mid baffle can be rotated



This would also be a way to use one as a center channel
post #19 of 20

I don't know if you are still considering the Focal 1007 s but I just purchased a pair and received them yesterday. First impressions are very good. Awesome looking speakers and sounded good to me straight out of the box. Obviously still running them in. If you are still in the market let me know and I will will give you an updated report after auditioning them for a while.

post #20 of 20

Had these speakers for a month now and have used them with multiple amplifiers and subwoofers. First off I am very happy with these speakers, they image well, are non-fatiguing, smooth sounding speakers and look great. I first paired them with a Velodyne 12" subwoofer I've have had for several years and never felt they blended well together, mostly due to the subs inability to articulate the higher registers of the low frequency band. Was also running these with an Adcom GFA 5500 and a Sunfire Symphonic Reference preamp. I returned to Music Direct with credit card in hand and ordered a Rel T-5 sub and a Yamaha A-S2000 integrated amp along with a Marantz 7004 network player. This little system seems to be very well matched. The Rel is an awesome little sub and is so musical, the Yamaha seems to grab a hold of the Focals better than the Adcom and although not quite as bright is smoother, definitely more bass control and I really like using the Marantz with my ipad. If I were to rate this system on a scale of 1 to 10 I would give it an 8 or 8 1/2. Also considered speakers from PSB because of some patio speakers I have that sound amazing so for around the same cost you could go with the PSB Syncrony 1 ($2300) or maybe the the Imagine T ($2000) small tower speakers. All in all I give 2 enthusiastic thumbs ups to all of these pieces of gear. 

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