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Any way to get forced subtitles to work with movie only .iso's

post #1 of 26
Thread Starter 
Here is my ripping process...

1. AnyDVDHD (Full ISO)
2. DVDFab (Movie Only ISO w/ all subtitles selected)
3. Play Movie - Forced subtitles do not work.

How to fix while maintaing uncompressed .iso's?

Fixed in Post #11
Edited by SOWK - 7/27/13 at 5:38pm
post #2 of 26
What player are you using.
post #3 of 26
Why do movie only ISO's ?

MakeMKV does movie only and can rip just forced subs track if you know which one it is or manually set forced subtitle flag in mkv container via mkvmerge.
post #4 of 26
Thread Starter 
MakeMKV is a compressed formate is it not?
post #5 of 26
No it's not, just wraps it in the MKV container.
post #6 of 26
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Originally Posted by SOWK View Post

MakeMKV is a compressed formate is it not?

No, MakeMKV is 1:1.
post #7 of 26
Thread Starter 
What is the easiest way to do this with DVDFab version 9? Any super easy and fool proof way to do it?

I will try when I get home with avengers iso
post #8 of 26
There is a single reason to for a movie only iso, to burn to a bdrom and play on a blu-ray player, though not really the theme of this forum smile.gif
post #9 of 26
Thread Starter 
I figured out how to do it in ISO format... smile.gif

Thanks for all your help guys
post #10 of 26
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Originally Posted by SOWK View Post

I figured out how to do it in ISO format... smile.gif

Thanks for all your help guys

Can you explain how you got them to work? So, for others who might be asking the same question can know how to. Thanks.
post #11 of 26
Thread Starter 
Yes:

Here is my new Blu-Ray ripping process if movie has Forced Subtitles...

1. Run DVDFab 9
2. BD Copy
3. Movie Only
4. Select High Quality Audio and *Flag*
5. Select Forced Subtitle ENG track and *Flag*
6. Rip Movie Only ISO
7. Play on Media Device

Because you flagged the forced subtitle ENG track, the Player should be smart enough to automatically turn on the forced subtitles.


Example:

The Avengers

Subtitle: ENG track 3 is the forced subtitles track

You would Flag this subtitle track and when the movie plays the Device should have the forced subtitles turned on by default.
post #12 of 26
Cool thanks.
post #13 of 26
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Originally Posted by SOWK View Post

OK, new question....


So I now have my perfect Main Movie Only .ISO with flagged forced Subtitle.

How can I convert to .MKV and maintain Subtitle Flag and High Res Audio Like DTS Master Audio 7.1 channel?

I used MAKEMKV, and it did not keep forced subtitles on, and only left it with the normal DTS track...

I use MKVMerge GUI for that purpose.
post #14 of 26
Thread Starter 
If MakeMKV is 1:1 why are the files sizes different?

.ISO = 32,092,732 KB
.MKV = 31,802,259 KB


Also is mkvmerge the only way to set the forced flag on subtitles?


Can I not have MakeMKV flag the correct subtitle track and have it on by default?
post #15 of 26
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Originally Posted by SOWK View Post

If MakeMKV is 1:1 why are the files sizes different?

.ISO = 32,092,732 KB
.MKV = 31,802,259 KB


Also is mkvmerge the only way to set the forced flag on subtitles?


Can I not have MakeMKV flag the correct subtitle track and have it on by default?


1. File structure is different. Plus, if you've selected to only rip the main movie in MKV, all the extra bits of the disc are stripped out - previews, deleted scenes, menus, etc. Nowadays, films come with loads of deleted scenes, and I cannot be bothered with previews. I buy discs, just to watch the f'n show! :P

Furthermore, you may have not selected certain subtitles or audio tracks, as part of the rip. Audio tracks are a bulk of the allocated storage space.

2. You can with 1.8.1 or higher, but doesn't work every time. I prefer MKVmerge.

3. Yes, and see #2.
Edited by L33TX43RT - 7/27/13 at 5:23pm
post #16 of 26
Thread Starter 
The .ISO was Main Movie Only Already.
I did go back in to make sure everything was selected.

So just different file format then?

where can you get version 2.8.1?

The website makeMKV.com only goes to

1.8.4
post #17 of 26
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Originally Posted by SOWK View Post

The .ISO was Main Movie Only Already.
I did go back in to make sure everything was selected.

So just different file format then?

where can you get version 2.8.1?

The website makeMKV.com only goes to

1.8.4

My apologies, I meant 1.81 or higher.

What did you use to create ISOs?
post #18 of 26
Thread Starter 
DVDFAB 9


So here is an example:



Everything is selected...

How do I flag the Forced subtitles?
post #19 of 26
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Originally Posted by SOWK View Post

The .ISO was Main Movie Only Already.
I did go back in to make sure everything was selected.

So just different file format then?

where can you get version 2.8.1?

The website makeMKV.com only goes to

1.8.4

MakeMKV doesn't have that option.
post #20 of 26
Thread Starter 
.MKV files are much more tedious then just .ISO


Why is it the defacto standard... lol
post #21 of 26
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Originally Posted by SOWK View Post

.MKV files are much more tedious then just .ISO


Why is it the defacto standard... lol

MKV is just as easy as ISO just seems like a steep learning curve. But it offers a lot more value if you use software the flags and tags things correctly then a player that also reads the flags correctly
post #22 of 26
Thread Starter 
So now I took my already reduced sized .mkv file and used MKVmerge and set the flag on the forced subtitle track, and it came back even smaller... What the....

.ISO = 32,092,732 KB
.MKV = 31,802,259 KB
.MKV = 31,726,503 KB (Flagged with MKVmerge)


WHY!!!!

Does this not concern anyone?

Or am I being OCD?
Edited by SOWK - 7/27/13 at 5:40pm
post #23 of 26
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by halfelite View Post

MKV is just as easy as ISO just seems like a steep learning curve. But it offers a lot more value if you use software the flags and tags things correctly then a player that also reads the flags correctly


Does the oppo 103 support correct flags? That is why I am asking all this, before I buy one.
post #24 of 26
post #25 of 26
Sorry, I know this thread is a little stale, but I thought I'd respond for people that stumble over it in searches (like I did.)

MKVs can be smaller for several reasons:
- because the stream headers are removed by certain muxers. This is called "Header Stripping" and can save a little space.
- because the cues and indexes are more compact
- because (lossless) compression can be employed on certain streams (using ZLib compression which is lossless)
- etc.

So, yes, even an MKV remuxed wtih MKVMerge can be smaller than the source even though nothing is removed.
post #26 of 26
what do you mean you are *flagging*
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