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post #1 of 15
Thread Starter 
Hey everyone! I am new here, but I am not new to the hifi world. I have been active in the high end headphone world for a few years now.
I am moving out of an apartment and moving into a house within the next few months. This means I can build my first speaker set-up!

My budget is $3000.

I need help picking a good combo...

I was thinking 2 high end bookshelf speakers with a decently nice tube amp, possibly the JD302BRC?
I was also thinking about adding a nice little 12 inch sub with a built-in amp.

I usually listen to rock, alternative rock, indie music, country, and a little blue grass and jazz.

I've looked at a bunch of different combinations of speakers and amps, nothing seems to fit my taste.
I love a warm and rich sounding set-up.

Can anyone here shed some light into my search for a first high-end speaker setup?

Thanks guys!

Andrew
Edited by Pwnm30rdi3 - 7/30/13 at 4:00pm
post #2 of 15
You should start by listing the size of your listening room HxWxL and whether or not it's open to adjacent rooms.

$3,000 will probably comfortably get you into the mid level of audio, not the high end. Though, there are plenty of good speakers and subs to look at.
post #3 of 15
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Dan Hitchman View Post

You should start by listing the size of your listening room HxWxL and whether or not it's open to adjacent rooms.

$3,000 will probably comfortably get you into the mid level of audio, not the high end. Though, there are plenty of good speakers and subs to look at.

Room is around 8'x13x'13, so fairly small. Closed off, no adjacent rooms on second story of home.
I figured $3000 wouldn't get me to high end. But my budget could be swayed if the money is well spent! smile.gif +/- $1000.
Just not sure where to start! Any suggestions?
post #4 of 15
Why not take a look at some Sierra-1's with the NrT upgrade from Ascend and get a F15HP all in a nice piano finish. That should easily fall within your budget.

http://ascendacoustics.com/pages/products/speakers/SRM1/srm1.html
post #5 of 15
Are these primarily for music or movies? I second that suggestion for the Sierra-1 NRT from Ascend Acoustics. You won't find a better bookshelf speaker for under $2,000. For the sub, I recommend purchasing a Dayton RSS460-HO18 and then buy a 3.0cuft flat pack from DIY sound group and a Behrunger EP4000. All you need to do is assemble the kit with glue! That would give you a high end setup for a little less than $1900.00. for the amp, i would recommend you purchase an AVR receiver that has network connectivity and room correction software. something like a Denon AVR-4311 or AVR-3312. that would sound just as good as a dedicated intergraded amp, plus you would gain room correction, a subwoofer connection, network connection and you will have a chance to one day add a center channel and surrounds in the event that you want to start watching movies!
post #6 of 15
Why not just start with a nice set of tower speakers and then go from there a little at a time? I suggest the Ascend Sierra Towers. Under $2,000 and they already have the NrT tweeter. Then get a good receiver with pre-amp outputs (that way you can add a separate power amp later). The Marantz 5007 looks like a good buy.

You now have a speaker system that has a matching center speaker and bookshelf models that can be used as surrounds.
post #7 of 15
Thread Starter 
The Sierra-1 NRT's look great for a SS or Hybrid amp build.
They don't look very Tube Amp friendly.

If I go the SS amp route, I think the Sierra-1 NRT's are a perfect match.

Now...
How about a Tube Speaker and Tube Amp combo suggestion? :-D
post #8 of 15
Sorry, I'm not into tube amps at all. So what makes a speaker a good tube amp speaker?
post #9 of 15
How about building your own? From the same outfit Marty suggested, diysoundgroup.com, look at the SEOS waveguide speaker kits. Relatively sensitive and dynamic but will definitely still need the sub...

I have the Ascend Sierra-1s (NrT upgraded) and they sound great with an ss amp, use Crown XLS1500s for my L/C/R so there's ample power. Don't understand spending $1500 for a 50wpc amp (and those Jolidas are way uglier than even the Crowns smile.gif Not sure how many tube fans are around, don't see too much on them. Pricey for the power it seems for the tube stuff I've peeked at now and then, want my amp as clean as possible, not playing a guitar where the distortion might be useful...IMHO.
post #10 of 15
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Originally Posted by Pwnm30rdi3 View Post

The Sierra-1 NRT's look great for a SS or Hybrid amp build.
They don't look very Tube Amp friendly.

If I go the SS amp route, I think the Sierra-1 NRT's are a perfect match.

Now...
How about a Tube Speaker and Tube Amp combo suggestion? :-D

I don't buy the tube amp sound... much like the myth of vinyl being the end-all. You're getting waaaaaay too much distortion with a lower dynamic range. Listen to a superior SA-CD or DVD-Audio or something like an AIX Records Blu-ray music disc using quality solid state equipment and tell me the old guard sounds better.

I think Sierra Towers coupled to a decent receiver and maybe something like an Emotiva or Parasound amp for extra clean headroom would be great.
Edited by Dan Hitchman - 8/1/13 at 8:27am
post #11 of 15
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Originally Posted by jbrown15 View Post

Sorry, I'm not into tube amps at all. So what makes a speaker a good tube amp speaker?

An impedance curve that gives the response of a speaker and an amp, each with nominally flat response on the test bench, a system response that looks like a smile. IOW tipped up towards the bass and less so in the treble, with a bit of a broad depression in the midrange.
post #12 of 15
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Originally Posted by Pwnm30rdi3 View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Hitchman View Post

You should start by listing the size of your listening room HxWxL and whether or not it's open to adjacent rooms.

$3,000 will probably comfortably get you into the mid level of audio, not the high end. Though, there are plenty of good speakers and subs to look at.

Room is around 8'x13x'13, so fairly small. Closed off, no adjacent rooms on second story of home.
I figured $3000 wouldn't get me to high end. But my budget could be swayed if the money is well spent! smile.gif +/- $1000.
Just not sure where to start! Any suggestions?

Your best bet would be an AVR with the top tier of Audyssey which is Audyssey Multieq XT32 (probably a Denon), a pair of good but not overly expensive bookshelves, and a fine subwoofer or up to 3. Forget about high end and tubes.

Check the Subwoofer forum for the latest intelligence about the hot brands and models.

I would budget about $1000 for the AVR, about $1000-1500 for one or two 12" or larger subwoofers, and the rest for the pair of bookshelf speakers. If you think you will have to use speaker stands, buy floor standers instead.

And of course that room will probably need some acoustic treatments, so take money out of the speaker/subwoofer budget for that - at least a pair of competent bass traps.
post #13 of 15
Of course you could just skip the sub altogether

Definitive Technology Mythos STS SuperTower


http://www.stereophile.com/floorloudspeakers/808dt

Combine the towers with a good AVR and an Oppo universal player and you'll have it all (so to speak) in one tidy package.
post #14 of 15
-1

As nice as the STS's are, they will in no way give you the bass response or flexibility in placement that a decent subwoofer will give you.
post #15 of 15
Pwnm30rdi3,

Polk's 703 LSims are getting good reviews. An audio store near you might carry them.
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