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post #31 of 141
I almost turned it off once the psychic showed up. Depending on how they use it, I may turn it off anyway. I thought it was going to be a realistic police drama, but with a psychic in the mix, things are either going to get goofy, or annoying, really fast. Maybe I had the wrong expectations going in, but it's the same reaction I'd have had a psychic showed up in Breaking Bad or Southland or something. I'd expect it in something like The X-Files...not so much here.
post #32 of 141
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I almost turned it off once the psychic showed up. Depending on how they use it, I may turn it off anyway. I thought it was going to be a realistic police drama, but with a psychic in the mix, things are either going to get goofy, or annoying, really fast. Maybe I had the wrong expectations going in, but it's the same reaction I'd have had a psychic showed up in Breaking Bad or Southland or something. I'd expect it in something like The X-Files...not so much here.

So, do you think, in the real world, that psychics never show up to police investigations? It's obvious that the writers are throwing the kitchen sink into this program. Just because the psychic shows up doesn't mean that it goes anywhere... Hell, maybe the psychic is the killer...
post #33 of 141
I liked the psychic's introduction. As DI Hardy observed, such folks crawl out of the woodwork during a high profile murder investigation. Anyway, the guy who plays the psychic tickles me to death. With the cocaine, the money, and the dead boys father's unexplained evening with his "mate" there are a lot of balls in the air. I continue to really love Tenant and Coleman as the investigating cops and every time the reporter lady manipulates the son of the local newspaper proprietor, I want to scream at him to pull his head out of his nether regions. I am fully invested in Broadchurch now and am really looking forward to the rest of the series.
post #34 of 141
BBC America is now apparently airing all 8 episodes of Broadchurch consecutively. Originally, no episode was scheduled on September 4 because BBC America decided to air all four episodes of Luther S3 at 10pm from September 3-6. However, BBC America has revised its schedule, with Episode 5 of Broadchurch now airing September 4 at 10pm (preceded by Episode 2 of Luther S3 at 9pm).

The placement of Luther at 9pm in a 60-minute slot means that episode, and presumably all the S3 episodes, will be cut to 45 minutes for broadcast. This isn't surprising, since Luther S2 averaged just 124,000 viewers, which is very low, even for BBC America. Presumably, Broadchurch is doing better than this (even 200,000-300,000 viewers would be an improvement), which is why BBC America decided not to skip a week.

[Note: As a point of reference, the first three episodes of Being Human S5, which aired over the past few weeks, averaged just 103,000 viewers on Saturdays at 10pm (in a 75-minute slot). The final 3 episodes were moved to 11pm in a 60-minute slot, preceded by Star Trek: TNG repeats (which average over 200,000 viewers per broadcast).]
post #35 of 141
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[Note: As a point of reference, the first three episodes of Being Human S5, which aired over the past few weeks, averaged just 103,000 viewers on Saturdays at 10pm (in a 75-minute slot). The final 3 episodes were moved to 11pm in a 60-minute slot, preceded by Star Trek: TNG repeats (which average over 200,000 viewers per broadcast).]

I'm still trying to slog through S4 (apparently the last one with original character "Annie") ... two more to go, and I can start de-spooling S5 which is starting to eat up all my DVR's free space.
post #36 of 141
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So, do you think, in the real world, that psychics never show up to police investigations? It's obvious that the writers are throwing the kitchen sink into this program. Just because the psychic shows up doesn't mean that it goes anywhere... Hell, maybe the psychic is the killer...
That's why I said it depends on how they use it. I know a case like this would bring out the crazies, but his introduction has to be handled delicately, otherwise it'll become laughable.
post #37 of 141
Medium did a great job of dealing with psychics assisting law enforcement. smile.gif
post #38 of 141
Except that Medium isn't based in reality like this show seems to be.
post #39 of 141
I was able to obtain the ratings for the first two episode of Broadchurch (and its lead-in, Law & Order: UK):

August 7
9pm: Law & Order: UK - 0.274 million
10pm: Broadchurch - 0.660 million

August 14
9pm: Law & Order: UK - 0.214 million
10pm: Broadchurch - 0.345 million

That's a 48% drop from episode 1 to 2 for Broadchurch, but as long as the series levels off (which is what tends to happen for many recent BBC America series, like Orphan Black and Ripper Street), then the channel will consider Broadchurch a success.

Here are the season averages for some other BBC America series over the past few years for reference (the number given is the average of the first premiere of each new episode from the season -- this number does not include same-night repeats, On Demand, iTunes downloads, etc.):

Doctor Who S7 - 1.094 million
Doctor Who S6 - 0.775 million
Copper S1 - 0.692 million
Orphan Black S1 - 0.375 million
Ripper Street S1 - 0.373 million
Whitechapel S3 - 0.175 million
Luther S2 - 0.124 million
Being Human S5 - 0.100 million (first 3 episodes before being moved from 10pm 75-minute slot to 11pm 60-minute slot)
The Hour S2 - less than 0.100 million
post #40 of 141
Interesting.

In the UK Broadchurch started with 9million and ended with nearly 10.5million viewers on ITV (when ITV HD and ITV+1 - the 60 minute delayed version) audiences were consolidated. Those are very good figures for any drama in the UK - and it built across its run (with an occasional dip) Its best share was 34% I believe (which is the percentage of the UK TV audience watching it)
post #41 of 141
I'm continuing to enjoy this show. No surprise what the Dad was doing the night of the death, we saw that coming from the beginning. But I was surprised that the daughter knew what was going on before the wife. And I'm still hoping the psychic remains only a minor distracting character, and does not become a major plot point. David Tennant is pretty amazing in his role. Leaps and bounds ahead of any American police drama with regards to interesting character portrayals, in my opinion.
post #42 of 141
Is the old man (shop owner) played by "Walder frey?". Dude's got to be guilty right? smile.gif

What kind of accent is Tenant doing? Is it a good one?

Sometimes you hear American actors do horrible regional accents (eg Boston) but people outside the US would have no idea.
post #43 of 141
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Is the old man (shop owner) played by "Walder frey?". Dude's got to be guilty right? smile.gif

What kind of accent is Tenant doing? Is it a good one?

Sometimes you hear American actors do horrible regional accents (eg Boston) but people outside the US would have no idea.

Tennant is Scottish and is doing a Scottish accent - probably quite close to his natural one. Surprisingly, for many, he doesn't use his native accent in Doctor Who.

Most of the rest of the cast are doing west country accents - but to very wildly varying degrees of success. It was the one aspect of the production that let it down slightly for UK audiences - wandering accent syndrome. Accents in England (as well as Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland) vary quite markedly with region - ignoring dialect issues. West country and East Anglian accents are often quite tricky for actors - plus there are "class" variations to worry about as well...
post #44 of 141
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Tennant is Scottish and is doing a Scottish accent - probably quite close to his natural one. Surprisingly, for many, he doesn't use his native accent in Doctor Who.

That's what I thought. As you know, I spent some time years ago staying with a friend's relatives in Scotland, who we were visiting.. Tenant sounds just like my friend's relatives: incomprehensible but kind of charming and clearly identifiable.smile.gif
post #45 of 141
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Tennant is Scottish and is doing a Scottish accent - probably quite close to his natural one. Surprisingly, for many, he doesn't use his native accent in Doctor Who.

Most of the rest of the cast are doing west country accents - but to very wildly varying degrees of success. It was the one aspect of the production that let it down slightly for UK audiences - wandering accent syndrome. Accents in England (as well as Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland) vary quite markedly with region - ignoring dialect issues. West country and East Anglian accents are often quite tricky for actors - plus there are "class" variations to worry about as well...

As an american hopelessly addicted to british tv I wanted to thank you for all the insights like the one above. Interesting stuff.
Edited by lonwolf615 - 8/22/13 at 7:33pm
post #46 of 141
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As an american hopelessly addicted to british tv I wanted to thank fou for all the insights like the one above. Interesting stuff.

+1! It's kind of nice to have our own Limey expert, isn't it.smile.gif
post #47 of 141
Thread Starter 
Just keep watching. All will fall into place.
post #48 of 141
I'm having no trouble understanding the various accents, but my wife is finding it very difficult to understand some of the characters. We've had to start watching with closed captioning. Odd, considering that she's the one that grew up in a British colony.
post #49 of 141
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I'm having no trouble understanding the various accents, but my wife is finding it very difficult to understand some of the characters. We've had to start watching with closed captioning. Odd, considering that she's the one that grew up in a British colony.

I always watch it with cc on.
post #50 of 141
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I'm having no trouble understanding the various accents, but my wife is finding it very difficult to understand some of the characters. We've had to start watching with closed captioning. Odd, considering that she's the one that grew up in a British colony.
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I always watch it with cc on.

I too find closed captions useful when watching British TV shows. It reminds me of the truth of the saying, often attributed to George Bernard Shaw, that "The United States and Great Britain are two countries separated by a common language."smile.gif

I love the intricacy of Broadchurch and have been deeply impressed with the uniformly high quality of the performances. Olivia Coleman has been particularly wonderful and has frequently moved me. David Tenant has been terrific too, in a role that could not be more diametrically opposed to his performances as Doctor Who.
post #51 of 141
I have to use cc with The Bridge as well. Certain shows have mumblers and low talkers and it is just too difficult. I will say that the cc for Broadchurch are pretty good whereas the cc for The Bridge was done by someone who was watching a football game when he did it.

The bad thing about cc is you tend to focus on the words and lose the picture portion.
post #52 of 141
Favorite tweet I've seen today:

I was watching @BBCAMERICA and thought, Why is the Doctor being such a DICK?! Then I realized I was watching Broadchurch
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— Garey Mckee (@policelimit)
August 23, 2013
post #53 of 141
No interest in Dr Who, I recognized him from Fright Night. So his behavior is not so unusual to me!
post #54 of 141
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No interest in Dr Who, I recognized him from Fright Night. So his behavior is not so unusual to me!

Like most classically trained British actors, Tenant can credibly play any part given to him. I must say, though, that Tenant's performances in Broadchurch have particularly impressed me.
post #55 of 141
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I have to use cc with The Bridge as well. Certain shows have mumblers and low talkers and it is just too difficult. I will say that the cc for Broadchurch are pretty good whereas the cc for The Bridge was done by someone who was watching a football game when he did it.

The bad thing about cc is you tend to focus on the words and lose the picture portion.

I watch a lot of shows with CC on. Modern tv and movies just make it hard to understand dialogue. For
one thing, the sound design has gotten way too busy. You can hear everything except what the hell people are saying. For another, enunciation and diction have gone out of style in favor of naturalism. When I watch the old screwball comedies, I have no trouble understanding what the actors are saying even though they are throwing out lines at a fast and furious pace. Now everybody mumbles while making various extraneous noises.

Btw, why does the cc on my DVR box still look like it's using tech from the 60s, with the horrible font. I hate it so much I sometimes actually prefer to download shows (and subtitles) from "unofficial channels". PQ isn't quite as good but subtitles look so much better (not to mention customizable). And the ads are stripped so i don't even need to hit the skip button. Sometimes I wonder why I pay for cable.
post #56 of 141
Does anyone know whether the cc changes from provider to provider? I just switched from DTV to a cable provider because DTV won't show the Pac12 Network. With DTV you could pick a font and a font size. With the cable provider, just on and off.

The Bridge cc was terrible with words misspelled and often the words coming up long before they were spoken so somewhat ruining the scenes. Broadchurch had nice fonts and well done captioning.
post #57 of 141
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Except that Medium isn't based in reality like this show seems to be.
Except that Medium was based on a real person.
post #58 of 141
Thread Starter 
I don't have any issues with the audio when it comes to hearing what the actors are saying and I had no problems understanding what was said by the actors in this series, and I've seen all of the episodes.
post #59 of 141
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Is the old man (shop owner) played by "Walder frey?". Dude's got to be guilty right? smile.gif

Yes.

IMDB is your friend.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0103195/?ref_=tt_cl_t12
post #60 of 141
No comments for a while. I'm still enjoying the show. The mystery of the murder has grown mire intriging, as has the mystery of what is exactly wrong with the Tenant character. His performance is great by the way. Takes courage to make the character so unlikeable.Last night's episode has me wondering if the media stories have it right-is he "the worst cop in Britain"? Having alienated the whole town, forgotten by his daughter, seemingly no closer to solving the case...things are looking bad for the former doctor.

Not too fond of the killing of the dog, but it seems like an important piece of the puzzle. Still reminding me of Twin Peaks with a english flair. (or should I say Scottish?)
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