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post #151 of 551
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Originally Posted by jprc View Post

No, not directly from your phone right now. You can put the SD card in your computer or upload the files to your computer and play them through the Chrome tab cast by putting in the file location.

Edit: I haven't done this myself, but it occurred to me that if your videos are in a format that can be uploaded to youtube, you can upload them there and make them private (if you don't want others viewing them) and then use the Youtube app to cast them.
You can also just drop the video file on the Chrome browser and it will play. It will also play Webm videos on Chromecast.
post #152 of 551
So my Chromecast is set up. I using a Vizio M-series LED TV and it recognizes the Chromecast as a CEC device. The Chromecast will change the input on the TV which is a CEC function.

The FF, RW, Play and Pause buttons on my remote won't control the Chromecast duing Netflix Playback. Is this something that could be implemented since the Chromecast is a CEC device?

I am returning the Vizio and installing a Panasonic Plasma but I assume it wont control the Chromecast either.
post #153 of 551
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Originally Posted by hammick View Post

So my Chromecast is set up. I using a Vizio M-series LED TV and it recognizes the Chromecast as a CEC device. The Chromecast will change the input on the TV which is a CEC function.

The FF, RW, Play and Pause buttons on my remote won't control the Chromecast duing Netflix Playback. Is this something that could be implemented since the Chromecast is a CEC device?

I am returning the Vizio and installing a Panasonic Plasma but I assume it wont control the Chromecast either.

You have to use the casting device as remote control - the phone, computer, tablet you used to cast to the TV.
post #154 of 551
I know that is the official stance. However what I am getting at is that this could be enabled. For example a CEC enabled TV can control a CEC enabled Blue Ray player using the dedicated CEC buttons on the TV remote. The CEC control goes through HDMI not IR so I see no reason whey this couldn't be enabled on the Chromecast.

The Chromecast currently has the ability to turn on the TV and switch the TV input using CEC.

Here is a good explanation of CEC and Chromecast: http://gigaom.com/2013/07/24/chromecast-hdmi-cec/
post #155 of 551
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Originally Posted by hammick View Post

I know that is the official stance. However what I am getting at is that this could be enabled. For example a CEC enabled TV can control a CEC enabled Blue Ray player using the dedicated CEC buttons on the TV remote. The CEC control goes through HDMI not IR so I see no reason whey this couldn't be enabled on the Chromecast.

The Chromecast currently has the ability to turn on the TV and switch the TV input using CEC.

Here is a good explanation of CEC and Chromecast: http://gigaom.com/2013/07/24/chromecast-hdmi-cec/

I don't think you understand how CEC works, or maybe you don't understand how the Chromecast works, but you're missing at least one of those.

The Chromecast does not have is own remote control and does not have a UI that can be interacted with on the TV. So there is nothing for the TV to control through CEC.

It is not the Chromecast that is FF or Rewinding or Playing or Pausing, etc. It is the remote application that is doing so. Remote software apps are not controlled through CEC. The TV has no commands to send to the Chromecast to control apps because the apps are not being controlled by Chromecast commands.

They would have to create a Chromecast interface to control apps, which is the opposite of the way it is now designed.
post #156 of 551
That is a good point. However once the streaming is initiated on the Tablet or phone the streaming goes directly to the Chromecast. The Ipad can then be turned off if you want. This makes me think that they could incorporate a way for the Chromecast respond to CEC FF, RW or pause signals through HDMI or am I still missing something?
post #157 of 551
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Originally Posted by hammick View Post

That is a good point. However once the streaming is initiated on the Tablet or phone the streaming goes directly to the Chromecast. The Ipad can then be turned off if you want. This makes me think that they could incorporate a way for the Chromecast respond to CEC FF, RW or pause signals through HDMI or am I still missing something?

Google would have to create an interactive Chromecast UI first so that users can control media through the Chromecast. Chromecast has to be the device sending commands for CEC to come into play, so in its existing mode of operation it can't work.

I'm not aware of any plans for a Chromecast UI to control apps. I can't predict the future but there isn't currently any reason to expect this. You can always give Google your feedback in this of course. But that is what would be necessary for it to change in the future - you would have to be able to send commands to apps through the Chromecast.
post #158 of 551
What I am talking about is the Chromecast accpeting CEC signals directly from the TV through HDMI. If it can send CEC signals you would think it should be able to receive them as well. CEC is a two way protocol. Seem like the hardware is there, it would just take additional coding in the firmware to make it happen.

Not sure if my thinking is correct but it would be nice to start the steaming and then not have to touch the tablet again.
post #159 of 551
Hi Hammick,
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What I am talking about is the Chromecast accpeting CEC signals directly from the TV through HDMI. If it can send CEC signals you would think it should be able to receive them as well. CEC is a two way protocol. Seem like the hardware is there, it would just take additional coding in the firmware to make it happen.
This is all true, but it still can't allow the Chromecast to control something like NetFlix, as NetFlix is controlled from the opposite end of your Internet, through an app.

As an example, a "Pause" does not take place in the Chromecast. When you interact with the application for NetFlix or YouTube, that application is sending commands to the host server, as defined by the company that owns that server. So a "Pause" might be some TCP/IP command to NetFlix's server, and some completely different command or protocol to YouTube's server.

What you are asking for is for Google to place apps in the Chromcast for the different streaming services, so it can respond to generic CEC commands. However, the apps would need to be specific for each streaming service. Although it's possible, it's unlikely due to the transient nature of the protocols on the Internet. I can't count the number of times changes at YouTube have broken YouTube playback on my media-players.
post #160 of 551

Is there an option to have the next episode autoplay in Netflix? My other smartbox automatically goes to the next episode when it is over, I'd like my Chromecast to do the same.

post #161 of 551
That makes sense. I'll throw something else in the mix though. My Vizio Smart TV has Pandora built in. If I use the Netflix app on my Ipad I have the option of choosing either Chromecast or Vizio DTV. if i choose Vizio DTV it opens the Netflix app on the TV and transfers the show to the TV just like the Chromecast option. The transport buttons on the remote work to control Netflix using the Smart TV app.

I'm not seeing a difference between the Built in smart app on the TV and Chromecast. Isn't the Chromecast Netflix app doing the exact same thing as the Smart TV app? If so, they should be able to enable the CEC transport functions.

I guess it is possible the CEC transport buttons on TV remotes are only designated for CEC enabled DVD and Blue Ray players. My Oppo DVD is not CEC so I not sure how that works. Maybe if you hit the play button it is designed to turn on all CEC equipment, set inputs and starts playing the disc. If that is the case then I can see why the TV transport buttnons are not enabled for Chromecast.
Edited by hammick - 10/18/13 at 6:45am
post #162 of 551
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Originally Posted by hammick View Post

That makes sense. I'll throw something else in the mix though. My Vizio Smart TV has Pandora built in. If I use the Netflix app on my Ipad I have the option of choosing either Chromecast or Vizio DTV. if i choose Vizio DTV it opens the Netflix app on the TV and transfers the show to the TV just like the Chromecast option. The transport buttons on the remote work to control Netflix using the Smart TV app.

I'm not seeing a difference between the Built in smart app on the TV and Chromecast. Isn't the Chromecast Netflix app doing the exact same thing as the Smart TV app? If so, they should be able to enable the CEC transport functions.

I guess it is possible the CEC transport buttons on TV remotes are only designated for CEC enabled DVD and Blue Ray players. My Oppo DVD is not CEC so I not sure how that works. Maybe if you hit the play button it is designed to turn on all CEC equipment, set inputs and starts playing the disc. If that is the case then I can see why the TV transport buttnons are not enabled for Chromecast.


They are not doing the same thing at all. The TV has an onboard integrated app with it's own UI created to be specifically controlled by the TV and the TV's remote. The Chromecast has none of that - doesn't have any onboard apps, doesn't have an onscreen UI, doesn't have it's own remote or codes to send.
post #163 of 551

Could some one test Redbull.tv stream to their Chromecast for me? http://live.redbull.tv/events/274/uci-mtb-championships-2013-dhi/

 

 

I cast the screen to my tv then make the video full screen. Everything works except it is really choppy in the video but the audio is fine. I'd like to to know if this occurs on others setups. 

post #164 of 551
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Originally Posted by bombertodd View Post

Is there an option to have the next episode autoplay in Netflix? My other smartbox automatically goes to the next episode when it is over, I'd like my Chromecast to do the same.

I haven't seen anyway to do this right now.
post #165 of 551
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Originally Posted by bombertodd View Post

Could some one test Redbull.tv stream to their Chromecast for me? http://live.redbull.tv/events/274/uci-mtb-championships-2013-dhi/


I cast the screen to my tv then make the video full screen. Everything works except it is really choppy in the video but the audio is fine. I'd like to to know if this occurs on others setups. 

There may be an overload problem on the redbull.tv end of things. I just tried and the video on the TV is the exact same as on my computer. However the video on my computer keeps getting interrupted, even on the lowest stream and I got a message a couple times that the video was temporarily unavailable and then it would come back again, etc. When the video is working on my computer though, it is the exact same on the TV, with no choppiness or sync problems.

If you are seeing a difference between what you see on your computer and on your TV, then you either have another program on your computer interfering, settings to change, or don't have the optimum specs, but right now that redbull site is not streaming well to begin with on their end so that may be the only issue.
post #166 of 551
Hi Hammick,
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Originally Posted by jprc View Post

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Originally Posted by hammick View Post

I'm not seeing a difference between the Built in smart app on the TV and Chromecast. Isn't the Chromecast Netflix app doing the exact same thing as the Smart TV app? If so, they should be able to enable the CEC transport functions.
. . . The TV has an onboard integrated app with it's own UI created to be specifically controlled by the TV and the TV's remote. The Chromecast has none of that . . .
Exactly. The difference is that your TV has an app that knows how to control NetFlix, while the Chromecast has no NetFlix app. All the Chromecast knows how to do is to play the stream that an app running in your computer, tablet or phone has passed on to it.
post #167 of 551
FYI - Chromecast setup app has been updated to allow WiFi passwords up to 64 characters and I've seen the update in the Android Play Store.

Edit: Also, the Android Netflix app has been updated. New UI and it is much quicker navigation and input lag is much decreased between app and TV. Also has updated the lock screen for Chromecast use. Big improvement for android use. I'm told the Apple Netflix app didn't have such problems to fix so if you are not getting an update (Apple device users) I don't think you are missing anything.
Edited by jprc - 10/18/13 at 3:42pm
post #168 of 551
I have not used this thing since the day I bought it smile.gif sigh....
post #169 of 551
Thread Starter 
Looks like this device still selling well. now i'm curios what the sales figures are?
http://phandroid.com/2013/10/10/chromecast-amazon-best-seller/
post #170 of 551

I returned my Chromecast last night. They had a shelf full of them still. I bought a Western Digital Live to replace it and love it so far.

post #171 of 551
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post #172 of 551
The iOS Chromecast app is also international now, so they must be getting ready to sell in other countries soon.

I use my Chromecast every day even though I have a smart TV. It is some of the best money I ever spent. It is remarkable all that it can be used for really.
post #173 of 551
I miss the "jump 10 seconds forward" & next episode auto-start capabilities of the PS3 Netflix app, but dang is Netflix on the Chromecast faster. Nothing better for YouTube either.
post #174 of 551
I use my Chromecast for music more than video. All my music is up in the google cloud and play music does a great job shuffling the music via instant mixes. I have ~17k songs and the genres are too inconsistent to be useful. It occasionally screws up when playing songs, but overall I'm very impressed.
post #175 of 551
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I have not used this thing since the day I bought it smile.gif sigh....

Same here. These days, most TV's and Disc players already have some sort of Internet access. Not to mention the plethora of other devices that give you online access. I was very disappointed in Chromecasts's limited ability. Haven't used mine at all.
post #176 of 551
I guess I expected the support to ramp up fairly rapidly and widely and it really hasnt.
post #177 of 551
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Maybe Netflix/ Hulu+ requested 30/60 days delay window … smile.gif
post #178 of 551
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Originally Posted by JRock3x8 View Post

I guess I expected the support to ramp up fairly rapidly and widely and it really hasnt.

 

Me too. I'm surprised. I might buy another one when the bugs get worked out and more streams are added. 

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post #180 of 551
Hulu+ has been looking very good using Chromecast. It looks like they have some 1080p streams now (though still just Prologic audio).
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