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Samsung Crystal Surrond Air Track & DirecTV remote Problems (HW-FM55c)

post #1 of 11
Thread Starter 
Trying to help some family set up this sound bar with their Samsung TV and the DirecTV system.
I routed the sound from the TV to the soundbar via an optical cable. Chose to go from the TV as they use a DVD player and a Roku occasionally, so I wanted all the sound to go to the bar.

Here is the problem:
I can't find any way to control the volume of the soundbar using the DirecTV remote. It seems I have to use the supplied Samsung remote. Obviously.... this is less then ideal.
I'm a Harmony remote guy and I'm assuming that set-up would work perfectly as I could just teach it the code.
I'm stumped when it comes to the DirecTV remote.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Thanks-
post #2 of 11
Last I checked, only programmable remotes like the harmony's can be made to work with most soundbars. Which samsung soundbar and tv does the family have? If the tv supports Audio Return Channel (look at HDMI 2 and see if it says ARC) and if the soundbar supports Audio Return Channel as well (should if it has an HDMI out terminal) then that would be their best option instead of using fiber optic.

When connected via ARC, they would just program their Directv remote to a samsung tv and when they hit the volume control, the tv will essentially send the volume up/down command to the soundbar through the HDMI cable. The only problem is that they would still need the little remote to power on the soundbar, but that's still better than grabbing a different remote every time they need to adjust volume. Most just leave the soundbar on at all times.
post #3 of 11
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by maygit View Post

Last I checked, only programmable remotes like the harmony's can be made to work with most soundbars. Which samsung soundbar and tv does the family have? If the tv supports Audio Return Channel (look at HDMI 2 and see if it says ARC) and if the soundbar supports Audio Return Channel as well (should if it has an HDMI out terminal) then that would be their best option instead of using fiber optic.

When connected via ARC, they would just program their Directv remote to a samsung tv and when they hit the volume control, the tv will essentially send the volume up/down command to the soundbar through the HDMI cable. The only problem is that they would still need the little remote to power on the soundbar, but that's still better than grabbing a different remote every time they need to adjust volume. Most just leave the soundbar on at all times.

Thanks-
I'll take a look at that tonight.
I wasn't even aware that some tv's have an HDMI out now. Interesting.
post #4 of 11
It's not necessarily an HDMI out because it doubles as an HDMI input and HDMI audio output. The only thing it outputs is sound but works most often as an input and will be labeled as an input. For example, at my house I have all of my A/V devices connected to my receiver and one HDMI cable from the receiver to the TV so i can get my picture from my devices, so in this case the HDMI port on my TV acts as an input. Then when I stream content directly from the tv, that same HDMI port sends the audio information out of the tv to my receiver so I can get the sound that way. In this case, the HDMI port would be acting as an output, hence the reason it's called Audio Return Channel or ARC.

Samsungs HDMI 2 input is usually labled "HDMI 2 (ARC)" meaning it supports the output of audio from the TV to an external device, in this case the soundbar. If the tv does not say ARC anywhere on any of the HDMI inputs, then the set does not support that feature and they'll have to stick with using a fiber optic cable and toggle remotes or get a harmony remote.

If you list the model number of their TV, i can tell u right away if it supports ARC. Essentially if it's a new model tv F6300 or higher, the tv WILL support ARC, any model lower (e.g. F6030) will NOT support ARC. Remember to connect the HDMI cable to the HDMI (ARC) port on the TV and HDMI out port on the soundbar. Switch the input of the soundbar to "D - in" (which stands for digital-input) and wait a moment, the soundbar should then read "TV ARC". If that shows up, you should be good to go. If it does not list "TV ARC" then restart the tv and soundbar and it should work then.

If it's an F6400 series or higher, they can actually wirelessly output the audio from the tv to that soundbar as well (that's what Soundshare is). That would also allow them to control the volume of the soundbar with the Directv remote and save them some time and money if they don't have a spare HDMI 1.3 or newer around. However, they will sacrifice some audio quality if they transmit wirelessly to the bar, but to each their own.
Edited by maygit - 8/5/13 at 1:59pm
post #5 of 11
Thread Starter 
Just looked at the TV and as you thought, HDMI 2 is labeled with ARC.
So, if I'm understanding you correctly, I'd run the HDMI cable from the DirecTV box to the Samsung Crystal Surround system (which I've confirmed has ARC as well). Then from the Crystal system to the TV (HDMI 2). This would allow the DirecTV audio to go through the speaker but also give the DVD player (connected to the tv) the ability to use the speaker system for sound?

I'll give it a go.

Thanks for the help-
post #6 of 11
Yes, that would work if you wired it that way. When they want to hear the sound from the directv box, they would set the soundbar to "HDMI IN" and when they wanted to hear whatever else is connected to the tv (such as the DVD player) they would switch the soundbar over to "D-IN". The soundbar usually defaults to turning on with "TV ARC" though, so it may be easier for them to just have everything hooked up to the TV (Directv box included) and then have the audio ran down to the soundbar via HDMI. Otherwise, they may have to switch the soundbar over to "HDMI IN" everytime, assuming they watch Directv more than movies. There shouldnt be any loss in audio since soundbars are only 2.1 and audio out from most tvs is 2.1. I could be wrong about the default start in TV ARC so play test around.
post #7 of 11
maygit pretty much covered everything. Connecting everything to the TV via HDMI and then utilizing ARC is probably the easiest way to do things. Just make sure to activate AnyNet+ on both the TV and the soundbar so you can use your DirecTV remote. It should control the volume and power off the soundbar. It probably won't power on the soundbar.
post #8 of 11
A little late to the party but the soundbar will power on and off with the Directv remote. As long as Anynet+ is turned on.
post #9 of 11
Thread Starter 
So... I should have followed up.
I connected the tv and soundbar using the ARC HDMI connection.
I can now control the volume of the soundbar using the directv remote..... only AFTER I turn on the soundbar using the soundbar remote.

I couldn't get the soundbar to turn on automatically.

Now I'm reading that there is an option to turn on Anynet+ on the tv as well? I'll have the family check for that option. I know that I had it turned on in the soundbar.

Thanks for the continued help all-
post #10 of 11
Since you're able to control volume, Anynet+ is apparently turned on. As far as the soundbar turning on automatically, Sammy TVs have not supported that feature until very recently. I've read that their newest models now support it.
post #11 of 11

In know this thread stared a long time ago , but  I hope that you can help men. Im trying to hook the the above sound bar to my new samsung  UN50EH600F. I have Time warner cable box  and my mac mini hooked to mi tv set via HDMI. When I hook the optical cable to the tv and sound bar after adjusting to the right setting no sound can be heard.  My Top HDMI port says HDMI IN2  and the bottom port says HDMI IN 1 ( DVI).  My question is will I be able to use the optical wire and have both components hooked up and play sound on request without switching wires (Whewww Im out of Breath) The Newbie Thanks you in advance! 

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