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post #31 of 2570
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When you get a chance, how is the color cast? A lot of the pictures that I saw had a very bluish tint. Thanks!

Uncalibrated, out of box, and projecting onto my gray textured wall, there does appear to be some blue tint. It will probably be better after I can get fully setup and calibrate the image myself. Other than that, the shadow detail is excellent on this. I don't have professionally trained eyes though. But so far from what I can see, the shadow detail on the HD131xe is much improved over the W1070, the fan noise is much lower, and the menus are much more polished. I remember unboxing the W1070 and being underwhelmed by a muddied image while demo'ing Batman Begins. Watching that same movie now and am enjoying it a whole lot more.
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Optoma HD131Xe, HD (1080p), 2500 ANSI Lumens, 3D-Home Theater Projector - Sub $

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When you get a chance, how is the color cast? A lot of the pictures that I saw had a very bluish tint. Thanks!

Uncalibrated, out of box, and projecting onto my gray textured wall, there does appear to be some blue tint. It will probably be better after I can get fully setup and calibrate the image myself. Other than that, the shadow detail is excellent on this. I don't have professionally trained eyes though. But so far from what I can see, the shadow detail on the HD131xe is much improved over the W1070, the fan noise is much lower, and the menus are much more polished. I remember unboxing the W1070 and being underwhelmed by a muddied image while demo'ing Batman Begins. Watching that same movie now and am enjoying it a whole lot more.

Thanks! Makes me feel better (and anxious in a good way) about my purchase.
post #33 of 2570
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Nothing like a dull flat image to take out the excitement of one's new projector purchase. And that is why I returned the W1070. No problems like that with the HD131Xe so far. The blacks are surprisingly good and the shadow detail excellent! There is nothing like a good ole sci fi movie set in deep space that illustrates this better. Above are two shots from the opening of Aliens. Notice how you can easily make out the texture of Sigourney Weaver's hair even in a bright scene which tends to wash out such detail. And the texture of the ship's hull, outstanding!! This was taken with my iPhone 4s and there is a blue cast in the hull shot that is mostly from my phone. One more shot for you guys:



I also played with the 3D using the Titanic disc. I had a pair of the inexpensive Sainsonic 144hz glasses purchased with the W1070. I read in the HD25e forum that these glasses couldn't sync with the HD25e; I cursed myself for not knowing that sooner and returning them with the W1070. But I am happy to report that they work just fine with the HD131Xe. As far as crosstalk/ghosting is concerned, no problems whatsoever. Although of course brightness is a problem but that weighs more on the quality of the glasses and less on the projector. I am still playing with the settings and am not sure if the 3D was synching at 144hz or not though. Still crisp as can be hoped for.

So far, if there is a gripe it seems that there is some noise in the image. I noticed the dinner scene in Titanic that this was a bit distracting, a swarm of bugs going across the face of actors in my viewing experience. But it is a problem in some movies and not in others. Worse in some scenes than others.

I am giddy like a school girl at this moment wink.gif. Thats all for now.
post #34 of 2570
Niggenz, is an RF Emitter included with the 131Xe for using RF 3D glasses ? Thanks for your time.
post #35 of 2570
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No RF emitter packaged with it. You'll have to buy it as a separate accessory. At least in the US.

3D is stunning on the HD131Xe. In comparison to the Sony TV I have had for over 2 years and the month I spent with the BenQ W1070, I can say that early gripes that I had, that everyone had, with 3D content may be no more. The technology may have finally hit its stride with this generation. The separation is dimensional and doesnt have that pop-out book effect. A very natural presentation and doesn't at all have that contrived 3D look I see on my Sony TV or that I saw on the W1070 (I am using the Sainsonic DLP-Link glasses). It also doesn't seem like you can increase the separation on the 3D effect either. But that is ok since it seems to be tuned perfectly.

Others must have received theirs, I am interested in what everyone else says about the HD131Xe.
Edited by niggenz - 8/16/13 at 1:53am
post #36 of 2570
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I must say that my statement about the 3D stands while only viewing Avatar and Titanic so far knowing not all 3D is the same.

One more screenshot for you guys. A scene from Aliens where the crew stumble upon the Hive for the first time. How's this for shadow detail!

post #37 of 2570
How are rainbows? I can't find its color wheel listed anywhere.
post #38 of 2570
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Wouldn't know, I am immune to rainbows.
post #39 of 2570
Any idea what the color wheel speed is listed as in the specs?

What about the W1070?

Pretty sure I'm buying one of these two sometime before the NFL regular season starts. That gives me just about 3 weeks to get everything decided upon, ordered and shipped.
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Any idea what the color wheel speed is listed as in the specs?

For what it's worth this website lists the color wheel specs on the Optoma HD131x as:

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Colour wheel 5 segment, 4 speed

https://www.electroprecio.com/proyector-optoma-hd131x-p-5238.html

Optoma is infamous at not making this kind of information available.
post #41 of 2570
Of course it's hard to tell from screenshots, but on my computer screen, those shots of the 131Xe in action don't blow me away with black levels. But I guess maybe black levels would look a little better on a screen instead of a wall?

That's the one thing I want from a new PJ ... decent black levels without having to break the bank.
post #42 of 2570
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Don't think it is possible to be blown away by black levels for under $1000.
post #43 of 2570
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Don't think it is possible to be blown away by black levels for under $1000.

Ok, maybe "blown away" is overstating, but for almost $1000, and with this being a newly released PJ, I expect black levels and contrast to at least be "very good." Otherwise, I might as well buy a W1070 or a refurbished 8350. At least those are known commodities.
post #44 of 2570
niggenz, did you receive a Lens cap inside the box? Manual/Partslist refers to a lens cap, but I dont think mine came with one from Amazon
hmmm...
post #45 of 2570
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niggenz, did you receive a Lens cap inside the box? Manual/Partslist refers to a lens cap, but I dont think mine came with one from Amazon
hmmm...
My HD25e (which came straight from Optoma thru Amazpn) did not have one either. Probably saves them a nickel or two buy not including one.
post #46 of 2570
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No lens cap here either. Not flustered by it though.
post #47 of 2570
This is an interesting thread, since I was considering the HD25e. However, this still suffer from limited loom and a very long throw required. Niggenz, your screenshots don't look that great to me. Either it's your phone/camera or the fact that you are projecting onto a grey textured wall. Have any plans to get an actual screen?
post #48 of 2570
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Yeap, the screenshots don't do it justice at all. That is expected. They are taken with an iPhone with digital zoom. I have a screen that I will use temporarily as the room is being finished. I have yet to calibrate the projector for my viewing environment. So far I have just been using the settings that people have posted in the HD25/HD25e forum. Perhaps tonight, I will get the screen up and use the SLR to take better screenshots. Any scenes you want to see particulary?
post #49 of 2570
I myself would be interested in black levels. Shadow detail seems to be the HD33's weak spot, and yes, I know not to expect anything great in this price range. I am still looking at the factory refurbished HD33, but, if you are getting really good shadow detail, that is what will be the deciding factor as to whether I not I go HD33, or, HD131Xe. Fine detail is something else I would be interested in, as you mentioned the texture of the ships hull and Weaver's hair. Would like to see a mix of both, very dark scenes, and very bright white scenes, as bright whites sometimes washes out projected images. Your remark "The blacks are surprisingly good and the shadow detail is excellent" has just about pushed me over the edge to purchase the 131Xe. But, it would be great to see some better quality photo's of the 131Xe's actual picture quality ! Thanks Niggenz, you are being a huge help here ! ! ! PS: hope I'm not asking for to much here, biggrin.gif
post #50 of 2570
I received my shipping email from amazon, so looks like I'll get mine next week. It will literally be a matter of inches as to whether it will work in my room given the extreme PJ offset and my limited wall space for a screen, but I figure it's worth a shot. If no one posts more pics by then (on a screen), I'll post some.
post #51 of 2570
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Between the HD25e and the HD131Xe, unless you need a black projector and are really tight with money, there is no reason not to get the HD25e. The differences seem negligible.

But no problem. I do see some weak points with the projector that I am hoping will be remedied after proper setup and calibration. I wish I had some of this help before I purchased the W1070; it would have saved me some time. But then again, the HD131Xe wasn't available then, only a month or so ago, so it does seem fortunate. I watched the Deja Vu, The Matrix, and The Crow Blu Rays pretty much straight through each film yesterday. Each of these movies are rather dark and bleakly set but showed fantastically on the HD131Xe. Especially The Matrix. So much luster has been lost with this film after parts 2 and 3, that I forget what an awesome movie it is. Seeing it so brilliantly at home last night made me remember how astonished I was after walking out of the theaters way back in 1999. I also demo'ed Romeo+Juliet and Titanic (in 2D). With R+J, I noticed that there is a lot of noise in the sky during the beach scenes. It was distracting. But otherwise the rest of this colorful movie looked great. In Titanic, I don't know if it is the film or not, but there seems to be lots of grain in this movie during the dinner scene. Hopefully this can be remedied. Also, I wouldn't recommend anyone throwing any rips at this projector. They make look fine on a 55" TV, but when you have an 8ft+ screen, you will quickly see where those 40 or so gigabytes of data went.

Some other things to note. I haven't mounted this yet, so to get the biggest screen I could get projected onto my wall, I placed it on the backrest of my couch just inches away from my shoulder and right ear. After watching those 3 movies, I didn't even notice the fan noise. Fist Pump!!!!

I will get better screen shots and will try to get video of it action as well and keep you guys posted.
post #52 of 2570
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Between the HD25e and the HD131Xe, unless you need a black projector and are really tight with money, there is no reason not to get the HD25e. The differences seem negligible.

But no problem. I do see some weak points with the projector that I am hoping will be remedied after proper setup and calibration. I wish I had some of this help before I purchased the W1070; it would have saved me some time. But then again, the HD131Xe wasn't available then, only a month or so ago, so it does seem fortunate. I watched the Deja Vu, The Matrix, and The Crow Blu Rays pretty much straight through each film yesterday. Each of these movies are rather dark and bleakly set but showed fantastically on the HD131Xe. Especially The Matrix. So much luster has been lost with this film after parts 2 and 3, that I forget what an awesome movie it is. Seeing it so brilliantly at home last night made me remember how astonished I was after walking out of the theaters way back in 1999. I also demo'ed Romeo+Juliet and Titanic (in 2D). With R+J, I noticed that there is a lot of noise in the sky during the beach scenes. It was distracting. But otherwise the rest of this colorful movie looked great. In Titanic, I don't know if it is the film or not, but there seems to be lots of grain in this movie during the dinner scene. Hopefully this can be remedied. Also, I wouldn't recommend anyone throwing any rips at this projector. They make look fine on a 55" TV, but when you have an 8ft+ screen, you will quickly see where those 40 or so gigabytes of data went.

Some other things to note. I haven't mounted this yet, so to get the biggest screen I could get projected onto my wall, I placed it on the backrest of my couch just inches away from my shoulder and right ear. After watching those 3 movies, I didn't even notice the fan noise. Fist Pump!!!!

I will get better screen shots and will try to get video of it action as well and keep you guys posted.

Looking forward to your DSLR screen shots. Would you describe the noise in similar terms as Art from Projector Reviews did for a "sister" model? http://www.projectorreviews.com/optoma/hd25-lv/performance.php
post #53 of 2570
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Mounted a white 88" wide screen. These screenshots aren't going to do the image any justice.



















Edited by niggenz - 8/16/13 at 4:28am
post #54 of 2570
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Looking forward to your DSLR screen shots. Would you describe the noise in similar terms as Art from Projector Reviews did for a "sister" model? http://www.projectorreviews.com/optoma/hd25-lv/performance.php

Yeah. I would say that captures it. Some movies in some scenes it is very distracting and others it is non-existent. Been at this for a while with FP's and I have come to expect this with DLP. I am referring to image noise here. Not fan noise. Fan noise isn't a factor. Hope that is what you meant.

Anyone else that received their HD131Xe, please feel free to chime in.
Edited by niggenz - 8/16/13 at 4:48am
post #55 of 2570
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Only one User setting frown.gif. No separate settings for 2D and 3D. Boo....
post #56 of 2570
Those screenshots look much better, thanks for posting them. Looks really good. I think one thing that is evident from your screenies is that there isn't any problems with hotspotting, and that shadow detail and black levels are very good out of the box. This makes it quite a tempting proposition.
post #57 of 2570
Hows the lag on this projector.

And lag on DLP's in general? Trying to figure out if I should look into this projector more.. or go for an LCD model.

I do game alot. Easilly a 1000 hours on each Call of Duty thats released every year.
post #58 of 2570
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Hows the lag on this projector.

And lag on DLP's in general? Trying to figure out if I should look into this projector more.. or go for an LCD model.

I do game alot. Easilly a 1000 hours on each Call of Duty thats released every year.

It seems to be pretty good. If we use the logic that the the HD131Xe is basically the HD25e with tweaked firmware in a black case, and the HD25e is the improved version of the HD25, then borrow the measured input lag of 17ms from this pro review, then it actually is pretty good. And if you are going to game 1000 hours, a power consumption of 191W and a replacement bulb cost of <$200 makes this projector a no-brainer decision. That plus all the misgivings I have outlined already about the W1070. The only reason to reconsider getting the W1070 is if the throw on this projector doesn't work for you or you are stubborn :P.
post #59 of 2570
Have you calibrated the Projector ? If so post your user settings, id like to try them when I hook mine up this weekend, at least as a reference point
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