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post #571 of 2568
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Originally Posted by clark17 View Post

Great news in a way... I wonder if Optoma is clearing bad inventory and will start shipping fixed units.. Maybe will be able to tell by serial number. One of the reason why I paid premium for my HD25e (from local costco) was 90 days no questions asked return policy. I might just return the projector in before my 90 days are up and get new one (hopefully with fixed lens). This would be much better than sending projector to get lens fixed. I'm using PC (desktop) and I won't be lying to you guys it does bother me a little bit. Not to the point I will return the unit, but still I would love to get uniform focus, especially if Optoma admited there is a problem. Costco won’t care and will send this to manufacture, which will probably fix the lens and sell the unit as refurb.

Fadius thanks for sharing the info. :-)

np, btw I was referring to HD131Xe ... I don't know if the HD25e has the same problem...
post #572 of 2568
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Originally Posted by fadius View Post

np, btw I was referring to HD131Xe ... I don't know if the HD25e has the same problem...
I would say the HD25e has the same problem. I sent my first one back because of the lack of sharpness in the picture. My replacement, while better, still does not have what I would call a sharp picture. The vertical lines in the test grid seem to focus well but the horizontal lines do not. There are a couple of reviews on Amazon where owners are complaining of focus issues.
post #573 of 2568
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Originally Posted by fadius View Post

np, btw I was referring to HD131Xe ... I don't know if the HD25e has the same problem...

Yes both HD131Xe and HD25e are affected...

Based on peeps ability to flash their HD131xe with HD25e firmware, they are bascially the same units. I believe people did compare fw files and were exactly the same.

Like augiedoggy says you pay for an expensive white color :P
post #574 of 2568
I just purchased a HD131Xe yesterday from amazon, now I am worried I won't be happy with the PJ as a monitor.

Guess the best way to check is to try it out tomorrow when it arrives.
post #575 of 2568
I've got a slight problem ... First time I watched "The Hobit" 3D it was great ( I'm using Optomas RF-Glasses). Now when I try to watch The Hobit or Star Trek it's really weird, I can barely read the text it's like it's double. When I close one of my eyes the image is good, so somehow my glasses aren't synced?? I'm using a PS3 as blu-ray player. Anyone know how I can fix this..? smile.gif
post #576 of 2568
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I've got a slight problem ... First time I watched "The Hobit" 3D it was great ( I'm using Optomas RF-Glasses). Now when I try to watch The Hobit or Star Trek it's really weird, I can barely read the text it's like it's double. When I close one of my eyes the image is good, so somehow my glasses aren't synced?? I'm using a PS3 as blu-ray player. Anyone know how I can fix this..? smile.gif
have you checked the 3d mode of the projector? Also what is the signal going to the projector? 720 @60hz or 1080p@24hz I hope?
post #577 of 2568
1080p@24hz, but it's really weird it's fully working as long as I'm only using one eye to watch the movie.. It's on auto, I haven't touched the settings and it worked just fine the first time I watched the movie.
post #578 of 2568
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Originally Posted by robinba View Post

1080p@24hz, but it's really weird it's fully working as long as I'm only using one eye to watch the movie.. It's on auto, I haven't touched the settings and it worked just fine the first time I watched the movie.

What glasses are you using. Only the zd301 glasses work now at 1080p 24hz. It's possible that you had a720p 60hz connection in the past and somehow it changed to 1080p 24hz. I have confirmed this by switching my bluray to 720p 60hz and my old glasses work fine, but when I use 1080p 24hz they do not. Weird that one side of the glasses is working, though. Maybe your battery or charge is low.
post #579 of 2568
I want to know you guy's opinion on this. I used to have a projector a long time ago, it was an Epson projector. I play videogames mostly and only sometimes a movie. I value picture quality and black levels a great deal, I eventually decided to go plasma and I never went back. The thing is...I am looking for a new tv, I have a Samsung 60 inch plasma in mind,but there's also this projector. Have projectors reached the pq and black levels of HDTV's nowadays? Basically....should I go for this projector or will I still be better off with a HTDV(plasma in my case)?
post #580 of 2568
I figured the problem out smile.gif I've moved my projector so I've got a 10m HDMI cabel now and before I had one that was 1m. I had to change some settings and now it's working. Although is it only me who sees some shades of the first letter in some subtitles? Not every image but sometimes I see some shades and I can't get rid of them ( I also did this with my 1m HDMI-cabel).
post #581 of 2568
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Originally Posted by Moonwalker1982 View Post

I want to know you guy's opinion on this. I used to have a projector a long time ago, it was an Epson projector. I play videogames mostly and only sometimes a movie. I value picture quality and black levels a great deal, I eventually decided to go plasma and I never went back. The thing is...I am looking for a new tv, I have a Samsung 60 inch plasma in mind,but there's also this projector. Have projectors reached the pq and black levels of HDTV's nowadays? Basically....should I go for this projector or will I still be better off with a HTDV(plasma in my case)?

The black levels are on par with the projectror at this level. Don't expect miracles. I game a lot on PC using 32" LG TV with IPS screen (not best blacks), but 4:4:4 support, decent color reproduction, awesome angles and decent input lag, It all depends on your prefernce. I haven't test it yet for gaming myself, but if I remember correctly I've read someone was using it for Street Fighter and said he had no issues when using this PJ with very good input lag. IMHO for gaming I would go with this PJ over 60" Plasma anytime of the week, as I believe size does matter :-)
post #582 of 2568
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Originally Posted by clark17 View Post

The black levels are on par with the projectror at this level. Don't expect miracles. I game a lot on PC using 32" LG TV with IPS screen (not best blacks), but 4:4:4 support, decent color reproduction, awesome angles and decent input lag, It all depends on your prefernce. I haven't test it yet for gaming myself, but if I remember correctly I've read someone was using it for Street Fighter and said he had no issues when using this PJ with very good input lag. IMHO for gaming I would go with this PJ over 60" Plasma anytime of the week, as I believe size does matter :-)

Oh I really agree with that. The bigger the better, the bigger the much immersive a movie or gaming experience will be. But I reaaaaaaally value picture quality and to an extent black levels too. Right now I have a 60 inch LG plasma, and while 60 inch is big, I;m still not satisfied with the size. If I can actually get an even bigger screen for much less than the plasma I got my eyes on (Samsung PS50F5500) and similar picture quality, I'd be rather crazy not to do it. But there are cons.

I just read this

http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33199_7-57344073-221/projectors-vs-tvs-giant-screen-pros-and-cons/

And in the cons they talk about what i'd consider the only real con..you can't have any lights on,because it will make the picture washed out right away. This would mean my living room needs to be very dark, and during daytime it's still a bit bright, despite dark green curtains that i have. On the other hand...the Samsung plasma i have in mind is said to be very reflective. Another con would be that you have to replace the lamp every year and in the end its better to just buy a new projector then. Wouldn't this mean that at the end of the day getting a projector is MUCH more pricey? Because i'd be buying a new projector every year?

I can get this projector for 800 euros and the plasma is 1227.

Oh and i almost forgot about a screen. I would not project on my wall, so i would have to buy a screen, i'm assuming a decent one would be around 100 euros? I think in terms of price a projector would be much pricier in the long run.
Edited by Moonwalker1982 - 10/16/13 at 12:19pm
post #583 of 2568
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Originally Posted by Moonwalker1982 View Post

Oh I really agree with that. The bigger the better, the bigger the much immersive a movie or gaming experience will be. But I reaaaaaaally value picture quality and to an extent black levels too. Right now I have a 60 inch LG plasma, and while 60 inch is big, I;m still not satisfied with the size. If I can actually get an even bigger screen for much less than the plasma I got my eyes on (Samsung PS50F5500) and similar picture quality, I'd be rather crazy not to do it. But there are cons.

I just read this

http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33199_7-57344073-221/projectors-vs-tvs-giant-screen-pros-and-cons/

And in the cons they talk about what i'd consider the only real con..you can't have any lights on,because it will make the picture washed out right away. This would mean my living room needs to be very dark, and during daytime it's still a bit bright, despite dark green curtains that i have. On the other hand...the Samsung plasma i have in mind is said to be very reflective. Another con would be that you have to replace the lamp every year and in the end its better to just buy a new projector then. Wouldn't this mean that at the end of the day getting a projector is MUCH more pricey? Because i'd be buying a new projector every year?

I can get this projector for 800 euros and the plasma is 1227.

This Optoma projector is pretty bright, and it should be fine in a good light controled room. The bulb is rated for 6000hrs in eco mode, someone said 2hrs is used every time you turn it on. So if you were to use this PJ 6hrs a day for 365 days, it is 2190 hrs... So you should get you about 2-3 years out of it. The replacment bulbs are about $130USD if I'm not mistaken. Since it seems you are on the fence, perhaps you should buy it locally so you can easly return it if it doesn't work for you.
post #584 of 2568
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Originally Posted by clark17 View Post

This Optoma projector is pretty bright, and it should be fine in a good light controled room. The bulb is rated for 6000hrs in eco mode, someone said 2hrs is used every time you turn it on. So if you were to use this PJ 6hrs a day for 365 days, it is 2190 hrs... So you should get you about 2-3 years out of it. The replacment bulbs are about $130USD if I'm not mistaken. Since it seems you are on the fence, perhaps you should buy it locally so you can easly return it if it doesn't work for you.

Ok that is very good to know, very informative, thank you for that smile.gif.

I could do that,but to fully try it out and be able to properly judge it, i'd need to have a screen on the wall a well, cause projecting on the wall is just a no go. Something i also find very important and is the main reason i choose plasma over LCD is because of motion resolution in games. I hate the blur on LCD screens in games with a passion. How is this projector in that aspect?
post #585 of 2568
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Originally Posted by TVSTAR View Post

What glasses are you using. Only the zd301 glasses work now at 1080p 24hz. It's possible that you had a720p 60hz connection in the past and somehow it changed to 1080p 24hz. I have confirmed this by switching my bluray to 720p 60hz and my old glasses work fine, but when I use 1080p 24hz they do not. Weird that one side of the glasses is working, though. Maybe your battery or charge is low.
thats how they work one side is supposed to block out one of the overlaping video feeds and the other is supposed to block the other...they alternate really fast with the frequency of the display (24v60 is converted to 144 or120hz. sounds like they are somehow partially working.... odd... I get ghosting when watching sbs 3d at 1080p @ 24hz... when I change it to frame packed everything is good.... also if I view the sbs at 720p like it was designed to be sent.
post #586 of 2568
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Originally Posted by Moonwalker1982 View Post

Ok that is very good to know, very informative, thank you for that smile.gif.

I could do that,but to fully try it out and be able to properly judge it, i'd need to have a screen on the wall a well, cause projecting on the wall is just a no go. Something i also find very important and is the main reason i choose plasma over LCD is because of motion resolution in games. I hate the blur on LCD screens in games with a passion. How is this projector in that aspect?
your epson was lcd...Dlp is sharper and I believe has less lag for video games... the brighter the projector the more light you can get away with in the room without a washed out image...I installed track lighting and have it pointed away from the wall with the screen.... works well. DLP also has "Brilliant color to give that over the top almost too colorful pop that many plasmas are known for... you can turn it up or down to suit your needs...

BTW a flat whit wall will work just as well as a white screen...I would go this route of use blackout cloth from the fabric store..... if you decide to keep the projector I would then buy a screen....I started with homemade screens and now have a motorized screen that drops down over my plasma on the wall that I use for daytime short viewing ...(plasma was free since I garbage picked it and replaced two bad capacitors from an old hp plotter powersupply I had in my scrap pile).
I just purchased a darbee dartblet since they were $90.00 off yeasterday at solid state and am looking forward to an even sharper image but dlp already has a clear advantage here over lcd projectors....
I can honestly say the contrast is on par with the 20" lcd monitor I'm viewing now and the dlp projectors black levels are better.... leaps and bounds better than my first x1 dlp 12 years ago....
post #587 of 2568

 I have been watching prices on the Mitsubishi HC4000 for quite some time now. It has fallen to about $900 recently. The HC4000 was a best buy, but that was 2-3 year ago. I just recently found out the reason the HC4000 hasn't been replaced since then and that is because Mitsubishi has decided to get out of the pj business. That is when I started to search for other lower priced pjs and found this thread. I've read through the majority of the thread and users are mostly comparing it to the Benq w1070.

The HC4000 isn't nearly as bright as the Optoma but that isn't a concern because of my light controlled man cave. I have zero interest in 3D either. The Mitsubishi has more placement flexibility, but when I look at the projection calculator, the HD131xe is almost a perfect fit for my situation (11'-4" throw distance for a 92" screen + 7" offset). My only concern is the screen height relative to the ceiling mount. My screen is at 8" down from the ceiling height so I would need to get the HD131xe up against my removable ceiling tiles and have a slight keystone correction because of the 2"-3" differential in offset.

 I am still on my first projector, a 720P Mitsubishi HC1500, since I built my theater in 2007. I have been dying to upgrade to a 1080P. I am sure that no matter which I ultimately choose, it will be a huge upgrade over my HC1500.

Does anybody have any experience with the image quality of the HC4000 and Optoma HD131xe for a direct comparison? Is it a given that a newly released pj will be better than a 2-3 year old design at this price point?

post #588 of 2568
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Originally Posted by augiedoggy View Post

your epson was lcd...Dlp is sharper and I believe has less lag for video games... the brighter the projector the more light you can get away with in the room without a washed out image...I installed track lighting and have it pointed away from the wall with the screen.... works well. DLP also has "Brilliant color to give that over the top almost too colorful pop that many plasmas are known for... you can turn it up or down to suit your needs...

BTW a flat whit wall will work just as well as a white screen...I would go this route of use blackout cloth from the fabric store..... if you decide to keep the projector I would then buy a screen....I started with homemade screens and now have a motorized screen that drops down over my plasma on the wall that I use for daytime short viewing ...(plasma was free since I garbage picked it and replaced two bad capacitors from an old hp plotter powersupply I had in my scrap pile).
I just purchased a darbee dartblet since they were $90.00 off yeasterday at solid state and am looking forward to an even sharper image but dlp already has a clear advantage here over lcd projectors....
I can honestly say the contrast is on par with the 20" lcd monitor I'm viewing now and the dlp projectors black levels are better.... leaps and bounds better than my first x1 dlp 12 years ago....

Yep that is something very important in my case, that the store allows me to return it if its not up to my wishes. I don't mind if the picture quality is slightly less than the Samsung plasma i have in mind, but i need to be able to compare them. Placement is also something that might be problematic for me. It can't be on my ceiling cause it's just too thin but also too up high. I however can of course make something to attach it to my wall, but it definitely is going to be somewhat of an hassle. I'll need to sell my current plasma first anyway before i can even think about buying though.

Holy crap. I just found out i can get this projector for 700 euros. Even if i was to buy a screen of like 150 euros with it, i would be so much cheaper off than a plasma.
post #589 of 2568
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Originally Posted by chilipepper View Post

 I have been watching prices on the Mitsubishi HC4000 for quite some time now. It has fallen to about $900 recently. The HC4000 was a best buy, but that was 2-3 year ago. I just recently found out the reason the HC4000 hasn't been replaced since then and that is because Mitsubishi has decided to get out of the pj business. That is when I started to search for other lower priced pjs and found this thread. I've read through the majority of the thread and users are mostly comparing it to the Benq w1070.
The HC4000 isn't nearly as bright as the Optoma but that isn't a concern because of my light controlled man cave. I have zero interest in 3D either. The Mitsubishi has more placement flexibility, but when I look at the projection calculator, the HD131xe is almost a perfect fit for my situation (11'-4" throw distance for a 92" screen + 7" offset). My only concern is the screen height relative to the ceiling mount. My screen is at 8" down from the ceiling height so I would need to get the HD131xe up against my removable ceiling tiles and have a slight keystone correction because of the 2"-3" differential in offset.
 I am still on my first projector, a 720P Mitsubishi HC1500, since I built my theater in 2007. I have been dying to upgrade to a 1080P. I am sure that no matter which I ultimately choose, it will be a huge upgrade over my HC1500.
Does anybody have any experience with the image quality of the HC4000 and Optoma HD131xe for a direct comparison? Is it a given that a newly released pj will be better than a 2-3 year old design at this price point?
you can tilt the projector up and tilt the screen from top to bottom to match...this way no keystone is needed and you can mount the screen up high close to the ceiling...

Optoma manufatures the mits projector line in thier parent company "coretronics" factory....so when comparing quality control keep this in mind..
post #590 of 2568
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Originally Posted by Moonwalker1982 View Post

Yep that is something very important in my case, that the store allows me to return it if its not up to my wishes. I don't mind if the picture quality is slightly less than the Samsung plasma i have in mind, but i need to be able to compare them. Placement is also something that might be problematic for me. It can't be on my ceiling cause it's just too thin but also too up high. I however can of course make something to attach it to my wall, but it definitely is going to be somewhat of an hassle. I'll need to sell my current plasma first anyway before i can even think about buying though.

Holy crap. I just found out i can get this projector for 700 euros. Even if i was to buy a screen of like 150 euros with it, i would be so much cheaper off than a plasma.
I have a 50" samsung plasma and an old 42" phillips plasma (before they went under and started farming the name out to chinese manufacturers). and I much prefer the optoma projector to either plasma.... I am still finding myself admiring the picture.... one of the best purchases I have ever made going to front projection.
post #591 of 2568
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Originally Posted by augiedoggy View Post

I have a 50" samsung plasma and an old 42" phillips plasma (before they went under and started farming the name out to chinese manufacturers). and I much prefer the optoma projector to either plasma.... I am still finding myself admiring the picture.... one of the best purchases I have ever made going to front projection.

+1,

there is no way back now wink.gif
post #592 of 2568
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Originally Posted by augiedoggy View Post

I have a 50" samsung plasma and an old 42" phillips plasma (before they went under and started farming the name out to chinese manufacturers). and I much prefer the optoma projector to either plasma.... I am still finding myself admiring the picture.... one of the best purchases I have ever made going to front projection.

That sounds really good man. I've been watching some videos on Youtube of gaming on projectors and soon i realized what i truly have been missing ever since i sold that Epson projector that had me gaming on a 2,5 meter screen) and went with the 50 inch plasma....that is TRUE big screen gaming and movie watching. Sure i loved the crisp look of games and movies on the plasma, but to be perfectly honest....something was always missing. The WOW factor was completely missing. Day one of having just received the plasma had me trying out lots of games and movies, the next few days i quickly got used to the screen and it didn't all feel so special at all. While i always loved the experience on the Epson projector. I must get back to truly big screen gaming. I just saw a video of GTA V on a 3,5 feet screen....now my wall ain't that big,but oh my....fantastic. Now another question:

Epson TW3200
BenQ W1070

Or the Optoma? And why?
post #593 of 2568
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Moonwalker1982 View Post

I want to know you guy's opinion on this. I used to have a projector a long time ago, it was an Epson projector. I play videogames mostly and only sometimes a movie. I value picture quality and black levels a great deal, I eventually decided to go plasma and I never went back. The thing is...I am looking for a new tv, I have a Samsung 60 inch plasma in mind,but there's also this projector. Have projectors reached the pq and black levels of HDTV's nowadays? Basically....should I go for this projector or will I still be better off with a HTDV(plasma in my case)?

I was in the same boat. Had a projector a long time ago when digital projection was just moving into the home market. Haven't re-entered it since because at that point, it hadn't matured to the quality (screen door of LCD's, they were loud, bulbs cost too much to replace, reds were oranges, blacks were gray, etc.) of tube TV's and flat panels and i didn't have my own place to properly set up a projector the way I wanted to. This was sometime just before they stopped selling CRT's. In between, I had a Pioneer Kuro 60" plasma. Sold it two years ago for a 55" Sony LED because I wanted 3D. The drop in picture quality and blacks was very hard to get used to. I still have the Sony 55" but it hardly gets turned on these days. The quality of this projector with a proper screen is on par with a plasma. In many ways exceeds a plasma's performance. Blacks on plasma's are legendary, especially on the Pioneers which set the standard for plasmas. But the sheer depth of detail you will see on such a huge projected image is a total wondrous experience.

Be sure you have a proper screen and the biggest one your room will allow. Set it up properly with light control but still allowing for living conveniences and you will never look back. Good luck.
post #594 of 2568
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Originally Posted by Moonwalker1982 View Post


Epson TW3200
BenQ W1070

Or the Optoma? And why?

Stay way from Epson if you are a gamer because of input lag which is inherent in LCD projectors. Provided you are not sensitive to RBE, then determine if your room dimensions will work with either the W1070 or the Optoma. If your room dimensions and your desired screen size can accommodate either the W1070 or the HD131Xe, then I'd go with the HD131Xe. I owned both and returned the W1070 because it has piss poor shadow detail. HD131Xe isn't perfect, has some silly lazy design qwerks, but if image quality is your concern, between the two, HD131Xe gets all ten votes.
post #595 of 2568
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I was in the same boat. Had a projector a long time ago when digital projection was just moving into the home market. Haven't re-entered it since because at that point, it hadn't matured to the quality (screen door of LCD's, they were loud, bulbs cost too much to replace, reds were oranges, blacks were gray, etc.) of tube TV's and flat panels and i didn't have my own place to properly set up a projector the way I wanted to. This was sometime just before they stopped selling CRT's. In between, I had a Pioneer Kuro 60" plasma. Sold it two years ago for a 55" Sony LED because I wanted 3D. The drop in picture quality and blacks was very hard to get used to. I still have the Sony 55" but it hardly gets turned on these days. The quality of this projector with a proper screen is on par with a plasma. In many ways exceeds a plasma's performance. Blacks on plasma's are legendary, especially on the Pioneers which set the standard for plasmas. But the sheer depth of detail you will see on such a huge projected image is a total wondrous experience.

Be sure you have a proper screen and the biggest one your room will allow. Set it up properly with light control but still allowing for living conveniences and you will never look back. Good luck.

Yeah I cant wait to get back to projector and see all that detail again, I know exactly what you mean. I can remember watching movies on that Epson, and even though It was connected via component on Xbox 360, It truly felt like sitting at the movies, I never had this feeling with the plasma, whether it was 50 or 60 inch. As for screens....let's say I could spend around 200 euros on a screen...which of these is definitely recommendable?

http://www.beamercenter.nl/category/198518/169-projectieschermen.html


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Originally Posted by niggenz View Post

Stay way from Epson if you are a gamer because of input lag which is inherent in LCD projectors. Provided you are not sensitive to RBE, then determine if your room dimensions will work with either the W1070 or the Optoma. If your room dimensions and your desired screen size can accommodate either the W1070 or the HD131Xe, then I'd go with the HD131Xe. I owned both and returned the W1070 because it has piss poor shadow detail. HD131Xe isn't perfect, has some silly lazy design qwerks, but if image quality is your concern, between the two, HD131Xe gets all ten votes.

I'm not sure what RBE is? I'm gonna assume that annoying things like banding and green effects (that even my current plasma clearly is suffering from) will be history when I go projector, right?
post #596 of 2568
RBE = Rainbow Effect, noticed in DLP PJ's

From what I gathered, small percent of viewers may notice when looking for it.

Hopefully I am not a minority. I will post once I get my HC 131Xe delivered and setup tomorrow.

My biggest thing will be looking for focus as a pc monitor. If it passes, everything else will be to my standards more than likely.
post #597 of 2568
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Originally Posted by Moonwalker1982 View Post

Yeah I cant wait to get back to projector and see all that detail again, I know exactly what you mean. I can remember watching movies on that Epson, and even though It was connected via component on Xbox 360, It truly felt like sitting at the movies, I never had this feeling with the plasma, whether it was 50 or 60 inch. As for screens....let's say I could spend around 200 euros on a screen...which of these is definitely recommendable?

http://www.beamercenter.nl/category/198518/169-projectieschermen.html
I'm not sure what RBE is? I'm gonna assume that annoying things like banding and green effects (that even my current plasma clearly is suffering from) will be history when I go projector, right?

Not sure if I have the expertise to recommend a screen. Plus I'm American and we think in Dollars :P. But sounds like 200 EUR will get you a nice screen. I can say the projector is bright, so I wouldn't recommend any screen under 120" diagonal if you are not sitting more than 1.5x the distance back of the screen size. Miwo has a 100" diagonal screen (I think, or its 84" diagonal) and he says it scorches his eyes. I have an Elite 125" 1.0 gain screen which should do well in my set up. Check the screen forum or ask here on this board in another thread.

RBE is rainbow effect. It is a flash of color in high contrast scenes. See if you can demo a good DLP projector from someone you know or at a retailer. Here is an example of what it would look like if you are sensitive to it. Make sure no one you would use your projector with is sensitive to it as well. If not, congrats! We hope to see you soon posting on this board as an owner of the HD131Xe.
post #598 of 2568
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Originally Posted by chilipepper View Post

 I have been watching prices on the Mitsubishi HC4000 for quite some time now. It has fallen to about $900 recently. The HC4000 was a best buy, but that was 2-3 year ago. I just recently found out the reason the HC4000 hasn't been replaced since then and that is because Mitsubishi has decided to get out of the pj business. That is when I started to search for other lower priced pjs and found this thread. I've read through the majority of the thread and users are mostly comparing it to the Benq w1070.
The HC4000 isn't nearly as bright as the Optoma but that isn't a concern because of my light controlled man cave. I have zero interest in 3D either. The Mitsubishi has more placement flexibility, but when I look at the projection calculator, the HD131xe is almost a perfect fit for my situation (11'-4" throw distance for a 92" screen + 7" offset). My only concern is the screen height relative to the ceiling mount. My screen is at 8" down from the ceiling height so I would need to get the HD131xe up against my removable ceiling tiles and have a slight keystone correction because of the 2"-3" differential in offset.
 I am still on my first projector, a 720P Mitsubishi HC1500, since I built my theater in 2007. I have been dying to upgrade to a 1080P. I am sure that no matter which I ultimately choose, it will be a huge upgrade over my HC1500.
Does anybody have any experience with the image quality of the HC4000 and Optoma HD131xe for a direct comparison? Is it a given that a newly released pj will be better than a 2-3 year old design at this price point?

Don't think you will find too many people upgrading from an HC4000 to an HD131Xe because the HD131Xe is an entry level projector and is actually priced below the entry level price. I think you will just have to make a decision based upon the merits of the HD131Xe discussed here.
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Just finished darkening my screen wall. I will use L-brackets to mount a wood flange to the drop above my screen wall. This way i can use the keyholes on the screen to easily secure it and it will drop a few inches away from the wall so that I can install a 55" TV behind it.

Been moving at a snail's pace but finally picking up momentum! Video and pictures shortly.
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I have proved that this works--setting player to 720p 60hz and using 120hz glasses--but the source material has to be 720p also--in this case it was a 3D hulu trailer. My Sony 590 cannot be set to 1080p 60hz for 24hz blurays--perhaps others can, but I doubt it. A computer is the only answer here I think, short of buying new glasses, which I've done and waiting for delivery.

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What glasses are you using. Only the zd301 glasses work now at 1080p 24hz. It's possible that you had a720p 60hz connection in the past and somehow it changed to 1080p 24hz. I have confirmed this by switching my bluray to 720p 60hz and my old glasses work fine, but when I use 1080p 24hz they do not. Weird that one side of the glasses is working, though. Maybe your battery or charge is low.

TVSTAR, I just realized that I may have misunderstood something about the first post that I quote above. I agree with you that 1080p@60hz is not available on any Blu-ray player. (It is not part of the HDMI 1.4a specifications.) But would you please confirm that you are not able to output a standard retail 3D Blu-ray at 720p 60hz using your Sony 590? I got the impression that you tried this setting but discovered that it didn't work (since you mentioned that the source material had to be 720p).

Does anybody know if an Oppo BDP-103 supports output of a 3D Blu-ray at 720p 60hz? I think it should have the processing power to do so. I have a home theater PC and had planned to use it to do 720p60, but I will be getting an Oppo in the near future. (I'm the guy with a pile of old DLP-Link glasses that I want to hold on to for those wild 3D parties we all keep a secret around here). smile.gif

EDIT: I just downloaded the Oppo BDP-103 manual and not only does it support resolution conversion but it outputs at 1080p60hz! Time to schedule another 3D party!
Edited by fxrh - 10/17/13 at 4:35am
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