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post #6421 of 9179
I use a samsung HDTV tuner, since my older sony doesn't have a built in tuner. Fox used to just show up on channel 5-1. I'll rescan again...all the other channels work fine in their normal local channel numbers.
post #6422 of 9179
Don't know why I didn't do it before, but of course a rescan worked...thanks all
post #6423 of 9179
Hello all. I've searched and cannot find the latest QAM and OTA current channel listing. The latest I found was beginning of 2007.

It would be nice to know what everyone gets as different area/nodes can get different listing. It would also be nice if we keep an updated list to keep track of new additions and/or channel changes.

Here's what I can get with mine. Note that QAM MAIN was automatically remapped by my TV. Listed are major ones and a few minor 480i DTV channels:


QAM MAIN
3-1 NBC-HD 1080i
3-2 NBC-123 480i
3-3 NBC-WTH 480i
5-1 FOX-HD 720p
5-2 FOX-WTH 480i
6-1 CW-HD 1080i
8-1 CBS-HD 1080i
8-2 LATV 480i Spanish
10-1 PBS-HD 1080i
10-2 CREATE 480i
10-3 PBS 480i
10-4 VME 480i
13-1 ABC-HD 720p
13-2 ABC-TR 480i


QAM DTV
74-10 NBC 3 480i
75-10 FOX 5 480i
85-8 KCLV 2 480i
85-9 CCTV 4 480i
88-10 CBS 8 480i
89-10 ABC 13 480i
94-1 (Edu.) ?? 480i
109-7 (Edu.) ?? 480i
116-7 (Gov.) ?? 480i


OTA
3-1 KVBC-DT 1080i
3-2 KVBC-WX 480i
5-1 KVVU-HD 720p
5-2 KVVU-SD 480i
8-1 KLAS-DT 1080i
8-2 LATV 480i
10-1 KLVX-HD 1080i
10-2 KLVSSD1 480i
10-3 KLVXSD2 480i
13-1 KTNV-HD 720p
13-2 KTNV-SD 480i
15-1 KINCDT1 480i Spanish
15-2 KINCDT2 480i Spanish
21-1 MyLVTV 720p
32-1 KMCC-DT ???
33-1 TheCWLV 1080i
40-3 ??? 480i Spanish

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post #6424 of 9179
Nutty occurrence on CBS-HD yesterday.

Watching "Criminal Minds" at 9PM on Cox (730). The sound track FOR DIALOG was totally absent. While the soundtrack for background sounds and music was intact.
Never saw that before and hope never to see that again. Proof positive that NOBODY is monitoring the signal. Either at Cox or at KLAS. The SD feed on Channel 8 was fine.
post #6425 of 9179
That's weird since KLAS doesn't even broadcast in DD5.1.
post #6426 of 9179
anyone having problems with channel 13 OTA ATSC? I haven't had it for a couple of days now.
post #6427 of 9179
Quote:
Originally Posted by jedster View Post

anyone having problems with channel 13 OTA ATSC? I haven't had it for a couple of days now.

None here.
post #6428 of 9179
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Originally Posted by lvthunder View Post

That's weird since KLAS doesn't even broadcast in DD5.1.

I thought I read on this forum several months ago that KLAS was going to start broadcasting in DD5.1.
Does anyone know what the deal is on that?
post #6429 of 9179
^Fox doesn't broadcast that much in HD as it is... Most of their primetime, but no gameshows with the exception of "the Moment of Truth" which looks alot like upconverted HD to me.

Fox5 is one of the only channels in vegas that has no local HD news broadcasts, and you really notice it when you watch a fox show "live" without skipping commercials.

Example of this:

Watching family guy. The show itself isnt even in HD, but the colors and sound look great compared the the SD feed.
Commercials come on, and are in HD as they come from the national network... then come the bumpers for fox shows (still in HD) and at the very end, the fox5 local news bumper - and right before the fox5 ad starts, you see the signal switch in midstream to SD... and the difference is quite dramatic.

It took me a day or two after getting HD to realize what was happening. seeing as NBC/CBS/ABC are all HD from their local vegas studios, they do not have the same issues.

Interesting, i think.
post #6430 of 9179
Quote:
Originally Posted by rsblaski View Post

I thought I read on this forum several months ago that KLAS was going to start broadcasting in DD5.1.
Does anyone know what the deal is on that?


My reciever was showing 5.1 for KLAS Cox 730 during survivor last night. I'm sure it was a "fake" 5.1 though.
post #6431 of 9179
http://www.cox.com/sandiego/digitalc...rogramming.asp
when will cox vegas have starz HD on demand, hbo hd on-demand etc etc?

when will cox increase their speeds?
http://www.cox.com/gulfcoast/highspe...Comparison.asp
50% faster than vegas!

France has 100mb down, when will we see speeds like this in vegas?

Will cox vegas ever release a multiroom dvr like the 8300MR ?

thanks
post #6432 of 9179
Wow check this out

http://www.cox.com/newengland/highsp...ze.asp#Premier

20meg down from cox ! available in vegas 2015
post #6433 of 9179
Quote:
Originally Posted by smithy123 View Post

Wow check this out

http://www.cox.com/newengland/highsp...ze.asp#Premier

20meg down from cox ! available in vegas 2015

I'm getting more than this NOW from Cox, so I really don't know what you're talking about.

From http://test.lvcm.com/

Internet Download/Upload Speed Test

MySpeed Results
Download 25,780,136 bps
Upload 1,110,384 bps
post #6434 of 9179


TEST.LVCM.COM


I will say this , though.... I cannot find another speed test site to even closely match these results
post #6435 of 9179
Quote:
Originally Posted by smithy123 View Post

when will cox increase their speeds?
http://www.cox.com/gulfcoast/highspe...Comparison.asp
50% faster than vegas!

France has 100mb down, when will we see speeds like this in vegas

http://www.onetrak.com/ShowArticle.a...ookieSupport=1

DOCSIS 3.0, whenever it manages to get rolled out. Cox's nationwide target is 25/4 (which is damn fast if you ask me - you'll be hard pressed to find servers that can provide you with 25Mb/s). Its supposed to be in testing this year, probably roll out next year. Though I expect it to take a while to switch everyone over (I can imagine the groans when people find out that in order to get the much faster speeds they have to go buy a new modem - hey its the 14.4/28.8/33.6 days all over again!).
post #6436 of 9179
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Originally Posted by gvc View Post



TEST.LVCM.COM


I will say this , though.... I cannot find another speed test site to even closely match these results

I was getting this speed last year even before they had superboost. Of course I had to tweak my PCs and and everything else:



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post #6437 of 9179
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Originally Posted by doormat View Post

http://www.onetrak.com/ShowArticle.a...ookieSupport=1

DOCSIS 3.0, whenever it manages to get rolled out. Cox's nationwide target is 25/4 (which is damn fast if you ask me - you'll be hard pressed to find servers that can provide you with 25Mb/s). Its supposed to be in testing this year, probably roll out next year. Though I expect it to take a while to switch everyone over (I can imagine the groans when people find out that in order to get the much faster speeds they have to go buy a new modem - hey its the 14.4/28.8/33.6 days all over again!).

Even our current modems can handle speeds much faster than that. IIRC they can handle up tp 48Mb/s. So all Cox have to do is flip a switch at the headend.

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post #6438 of 9179
thanks for the info on the speeds any ideas on the

http://www.cox.com/sandiego/digitalc...rogramming.asp
when will cox vegas have starz HD on demand, hbo hd on-demand etc etc?

Will cox vegas ever release a multiroom dvr like the 8300MR ?

thanks
post #6439 of 9179
post #6440 of 9179
Quote:
Originally Posted by gvc View Post



TEST.LVCM.COM


I will say this , though.... I cannot find another speed test site to even closely match these results

my result from speakeasy using LA server.


Download Speed: 20524 kbps (2565.5 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 452 kbps (56.5 KB/sec transfer rate)
post #6441 of 9179
Speedtest.net gave me 15847
Speakeasy LA gave me 17401
post #6442 of 9179
Network Speed seems to be more determined by the setup of the computers than limitations of the modem. I have several friends whose speed went down after getting Vista and they had to go through several tweaks before getting anywhere close to what they once had. Wireless connections will take a big hit on total throughput too.
Just a note to say that the http://test.lvcm.com/ is the one that actually tests your PC -> modem -> local server and back again speed without the internet's traffic slowing things down. The speakeasy and speedtest.net links are testing throughput of the internet and it's traffic congestion across multiple servers outside of the Cox domain (check out how many hops it has to make). I've got 5 PC's and two modems and get diffrent speeds across all of them, depending on the tweaks I've done, the OS and other running processes and wether or not I use wired or wireless connection. For the most part, I get speed above my rated pricing structures, except for my wireless connection, which is always slow due to a neighbors high power interference.

vegggas
post #6443 of 9179
HD On Demand of the other services is coming soon. Part of the expansion of Cox is from the San Diego super headend. Their library of content will be available directly to us to view as they migrate to a national network.
Check the HD on Cox thread for other national Cox related info.

vegggas
post #6444 of 9179
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Originally Posted by smithy123 View Post

thanks for the info on the speeds any ideas on the

http://www.cox.com/sandiego/digitalc...rogramming.asp
when will cox vegas have starz HD on demand, hbo hd on-demand etc etc?

Will cox vegas ever release a multiroom dvr like the 8300MR ?

thanks

As an aside, all the HD channels and services listed on that webpage have been in testing here in Las Vegas for a few weeks already.
Not sure of a public launch date yet though

The multiroom DVR from SA had some problems and was not released here. As Tru2way becomes available, you can get any compatible DVR you want, including the Diego units with Mocha and mediacenter functions. There are other services in long term testing that may or may not pan out if you want to lease something from the cable co.

vegggas
post #6445 of 9179
Quote:
Originally Posted by Word Maestro View Post

Nutty occurrence on CBS-HD yesterday.

Watching "Criminal Minds" at 9PM on Cox (730). The sound track FOR DIALOG was totally absent. While the soundtrack for background sounds and music was intact.
Never saw that before and hope never to see that again. Proof positive that NOBODY is monitoring the signal. Either at Cox or at KLAS. The SD feed on Channel 8 was fine.

Wasn't Cox...it happened on D* too.
post #6446 of 9179
thanks for all the info. Once Tru2way comes available will I be able to get say a tivo or media center pc with hd card and access everything including channel 1 and 699 on demand content?

Thanks
post #6447 of 9179
Quote:
Originally Posted by smithy123 View Post

thanks for all the info. Once Tru2way comes available will I be able to get say a tivo or media center pc with hd card and access everything including channel 1 and 699 on demand content?

Thanks

Yes, since it will have real 2 way capabilities.

Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldenEarDrum View Post

Even our current modems can handle speeds much faster than that. IIRC they can handle up tp 48Mb/s. So all Cox have to do is flip a switch at the headend.

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No, they cant. DOCSIS 1.1 modems only support 38Mb/s down and 9Mb/s up maximum, and thats for the entire node which is about 350 homes. Since that bandwidth is shared, it would take only 2 users to max out the speeds for 350 homes (even if there are only 25 subs on a node, thats pitifully low and people would gripe about not getting advertised speeds). In order to get speeds in the 100Mb/s range, you will have to buy a new modem since the DOCSIS 3 modems support a technique called channel bonding in which several 6MHz channels are grouped together to increase the aggregate speed. If Cox provides 25/4 to their customers and their system has 140Mb/s down and 100Mb/s up per node it would take a lot of subs to saturate that upstream bandwidth (which is usually the constraining factor).

In order to get faster speeds, your 1.1 modem will not work.
post #6448 of 9179
Quote:
Originally Posted by smithy123 View Post

thanks for all the info. Once Tru2way comes available will I be able to get say a tivo or media center pc with hd card and access everything including channel 1 and 699 on demand content?

Thanks

Tru2way is an interface standard that STB and display manufacturers can use to operate in a 2-way environment to access services and features of modern cable systems.
Once Tivo comes out with a tru2way device (meaning a device that can actually receive and send back commands), then you may be able to purchase one. They are in development of such a device right now, which will essentially run the same software interface that the Scientific Atlanta DVR's will be running. They will also have a way of changing their interface to
operate independently for original OTA Tivo use.
There are several other companies that are much further along in releasing tru2way devices than Tivo and the PC maaket, and you will see them in the marketplace over the summer. Samsung, and Panasonic already have displays using the technology scheduled for release this summer. Diego, Samsung, and Panasonic also have DVR STB's ready for release this summer.

vegggas
post #6449 of 9179
For those with dish wondering if they are getting any more local HD anytime soon. They would have a long way to go to catch up to DirecTV and even further to match cable's must carry requirement. It looks like they admit they are maxed out in bandwidth already.
http://www.tvtechnology.com/pages/s.0015/t.11300.html

Quote:


Dish: Local HD Would Cost $1 Billion, 3 Satellites, 4 Years


February 15, 2008

If satellite providers were required to broadcast all local must-carry channels in HD, it would cost EchoStar “over a billion dollars” in upgrades across the 174 markets where Dish Network offers local service, the company told the FCC.

“Our fleet of eight DBS satellites is at, or near, full capacity today,” the company said in a filing describing a Feb. 8 phone conversation with FCC officials. “If Dish Network were required to carry all must-carry channels in HD, approximately three new, state-of-the-art satellites—with access to corresponding new spectrum—would need to be designed and constructed to meet those new burdens, This is a four-year process with a price tag of over a billion dollars.”

Furthermore, said Dish, if bandwidth on transponders waited fallow for local broadcasters to start their HD broadcasts, it would deprive many communities from receiving popular HD channels including those of NFL games and the 2008 Summer Olympics.

“HD-hungry consumers would be forced to subscribe to higher-priced services, such as cable,” Dish said.

The company also said HD carriage is a far greater burden for satellite providers than for cable, since the satellites are not reclaiming any spectrum previously used for analog channels.
post #6450 of 9179
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Originally Posted by doormat View Post

No, they cant. DOCSIS 1.1 modems only support 38Mb/s down and 9Mb/s up maximum, and thats for the entire node which is about 350 homes. Since that bandwidth is shared, it would take only 2 users to max out the speeds for 350 homes (even if there are only 25 subs on a node, thats pitifully low and people would gripe about not getting advertised speeds). In order to get speeds in the 100Mb/s range, you will have to buy a new modem since the DOCSIS 3 modems support a technique called channel bonding in which several 6MHz channels are grouped together to increase the aggregate speed. If Cox provides 25/4 to their customers and their system has 140Mb/s down and 100Mb/s up per node it would take a lot of subs to saturate that upstream bandwidth (which is usually the constraining factor).

In order to get faster speeds, your 1.1 modem will not work.

Sorry that was a typo. I meant to write 38Mbps.

Currently were are now using DOCSIS 2.0 which are rated at 38Mbps down and 30Mbps up and those are the limitation of the modem and not the node allocated bandwidth. Each NODE has a HFC (Fiber) backbone and its bandwidth limit is determined by the total number of homes it serves and speed allocated for each services. Though it is not uncommon for cable to allocate more homes than the total node can handle since most users does not max their bandwidth allocation all the time.

So even an old DOCSIS 1.1 modem can very well handle an 25/4 service without changing to a new modem. Provided that the node is not already congested, all the cable company has to do is flip a switch.

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