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post #61 of 109
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Originally Posted by hitchfan View Post

Catch-22 was on my original list of 23 WWII movies I considered posting (other than the very best of them, that is, such as The Bridge On The River Kwai...or the most obvious of them, such as The Longest Day...or the most often cited of them...or the most popular of them, etc., etc., etc. Insubordination?), but it just didn't make the cut down to ten. There was no way for a movie to match the scope and literary quirkiness of that great book, but I often find myself remembering many scenes of the movie and must trot it out to re-watch it every now and then. When I do, I always enjoy it more than I remembered. There are more memorable and haunting scenes delivered in fascinating cinematic terms in that movie than in most Mike Nichols efforts since, imo.

There are many great scenes, including great cinematic shots (the squadron of B-25s taking off at dawn is breathtaking, for instance), tragic and horrific (seeing Snowdon's guts in the airplane), extremely darkly comic (the guy getting decapitated by the airplane in the background while a stupid argument is taking place in the foreground, or the plane crash and fire in the background while Col. Cathcart is in the Jeep near the runway with Yossarian, seemingly oblivious to it), to great and very subtle sight gags (in Major Major's office, as he paces back and forth, the portrait photograph hanging on his wall goes in and out of frame, and as it does the photo changes from one of Franklin, to Churchill, then to Stalin, but it's in exactly the same place each time, over the course of a few seconds), to outrageous sight gags like Yossarian sitting naked in the tree while Minderbinder gets him to try chocolate covered cotton balls ("You don't like it?" "It's Cotton!"). That scene is at a fellow officer's funeral.

Don't get me wrong. I like the movie very much. Somehow, I feel it just doesn't work as a whole quite the way M.A.S.H. does, despite Nichols' brilliant directing and ambitious approach.
post #62 of 109
Memphis Belle Klipsch
post #63 of 109
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Originally Posted by bobby94928 View Post



Totally uncalled for, I was celebrating the defiance, not the rule! And, I was also mentioning the fact that The Longest Day had been previously posted, twice! biggrin.gif

Sorry I wasn't clear. That was siding with your comment and directed towards Shady and is in complete jest anyway. Shadys OP was tongue in cheek and I'm just giving it back. It's all good. smile.gif
post #64 of 109
He deserves mention.
The Great Audie Murphy....Enough said.
post #65 of 109
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Originally Posted by hitchfan View Post

A popular WWII movie about one of the most decorated combat soldiers in WWII, if not THE most...starring that very man, who turned out to be a perfectly credible and bank-able screen presence to boot! That has got to violate some element of the op rules for this thread. smile.gif
post #66 of 109
Flying Tigers

Not top ten stuff but fun.
post #67 of 109
Here is my list. Some are unconventional choices, if there are any you have not seen, then I highly recommend you do so:

In no particular order:

1. Zulu (1964)
2. Apocalypse Now (1979) (really, either version)
3. Saving Private Ryan (1998)
4. Band of Brothers (2001) (mini-series)
5. The Pacific (2010) (mini-series)
6. Das Boot (1985)(mini-series)
7. The Caine Mutiny (1954)
8. The Lost Battalion (2001)
9. Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb (1964)
10. All Quiet on the Western Front (1979)
post #68 of 109
I don't want to nitpick, but 5 of these are not taking place during WWII............ wink.gif
post #69 of 109
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I don't want to nitpick, but 5 of these are not taking place during WWII............ wink.gif

Those are the "unconventional choices." wink.gif You don't get more unconventional than completely ignoring the topic.
post #70 of 109
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(the guy getting decapitated by the airplane in the background while a stupid argument is taking place in the foreground,

As I recall, that "guy" was a VERY naked Paula Prentis.

That's good enough for a top 10 on my list.
post #71 of 109
Here's a list in no particular order... Probably not the "ten best" but at least they are 10! wink.gif And I added a french touch to it as well... (links to their respective imdb page)


- Le Dernier Métro (The Last Metro - 1980)
- Empire Of The Sun (1987)
- Paris Brûle-t-il? (Is Paris Burning? - 1966)
- L'Armée Des Ombres (Army Of Shadows - 1969)
- Hiroshima Mon Amour (Hiroshima, My Love - 1959)
- The English Patient (1996)
- U-571 (2000)
- Black Book (2000)
- Run Silent, Run Deep (1958)
- In Harm's Way (1965)

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post #72 of 109
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Originally Posted by tlogan6797 View Post

As I recall, that "guy" was a VERY naked Paula Prentis.

That's good enough for a top 10 on my list.

You might be thinking of another scene in the movie. Prentiss is in the scene where a character is cut in half (not just decapitated) by an airplane, but she is wearing a swimsuit:

Catch-22 (8/10) Movie CLIP - Poor Hungry Joe (1970) HD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwELqrqsf_o
post #73 of 109
Hmmm....guess I need to go back and watch it again. I think there's a dream sequence with her instead of the guy.
post #74 of 109
Amidst all this love of the film version of Catch-22 I feel compelled to voice a different opinion, for whatever that may be worth. I don't think I had ever before been more disappointed in a film version of a great book. Since then there have been other great disappointments: Cold Mountain and The House of the Spirits immediately come to mind.
post #75 of 109
A vaguely related anecdote.

Stephen Ambrose, while writing The Wild Blue, ran into Joseph Heller and they were talking about the B-24 war out of Italy, which coincides with Heller's book.

Heller: "I never had a bad officer."

Ambrose: "But...but...what about Catch-22?

Heller: "That was fiction."

Ambrose's central character is George McGovern, who was a B-24 pilot there.

-Bill
post #76 of 109
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Amidst all this love of the film version of Catch-22 I feel compelled to voice a different opinion, for whatever that may be worth. I don't think I had ever before been more disappointed in a film version of a great book.

Probably explains why Closing TIme was never made into a movie. Not that it was as great a book, but I think could have worked.
post #77 of 109
Maybe we should include "To Be or Not to Be"

Classic Mel Brooks.
post #78 of 109
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Originally Posted by Shaded Dogfood View Post

Amidst all this love of the film version of Catch-22 I feel compelled to voice a different opinion, for whatever that may be worth. I don't think I had ever before been more disappointed in a film version of a great book. Since then there have been other great disappointments: Cold Mountain and The House of the Spirits immediately come to mind.

I don't think anyone has expressed much love for it really. It was mentioned as a possible inclusion on a list of WWII movies that the "rules" imply are not necessarily anyone's real top ten best or most beloved. And virtually every time a comment has been made about it your point is also made that the movie didn't live up to the book. When I first saw the movie I agreed with you in being so disappointed. But since then I no longer even think of the book when I watch the movie.
post #79 of 109
The Great Dictator
post #80 of 109
I don't think the OP said anything about anime so allow me to suggest Grave of the Fireflies. Set in Japan, near the end of the war. Very sad.


also, +1 for Battleground
post #81 of 109
forgot
The Story of G.I. Joe
post #82 of 109
The Diary of Anne Frank
post #83 of 109
The article below gives much added context to the true story behind "The Great Escape," although that superlative movie is too conventional to appeal to the OP, I fear.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/421678/Life-and-loves-of-the-great-escaper
post #84 of 109
The Train
post #85 of 109
From Here to Eternity
post #86 of 109
Thread Starter 
Just saw a terrific WW2 movie on Netflix which was about Chinese peasants escaping the Japanese army and famine. It was called Back to 1942. It had some pretty impressively staged scenes of huge masses of refugees that stretched into the horizon. This is definitely not a zero budget indie. I found it strange that a movie made in China would depict Chang Kai shek sympathetically. A terrific movie if you are interested in a sober Chinese perspective of WW2. Usually Chinese movies about WW2 are ridiculous action movies about some Chinese kung fu master who beats up cartoonishly evil japanese thugs, and this is not that at all.
post #87 of 109
Thread Starter 
Watched another great WW2 movie tonight- "City of Life and Death", also available on Netflix streaming. About the Nanking Massacre, so, of course, it's harrowing, although not nearly as much as it could have been, and perhaps should have been. Nonetheless a terrific film. Magnificently produced: the sets, actors, efforts at historical authenticy, sound mix, script, all first rate. It's emotionally exhausting, and not a popcorn movie. It's filled to the brim with tragedy, as any serious WW2 movie should be. Of note is the sound mix, there is a battle where the mix is as dynamic and punchy as any I have ever heard, including any hollywood movie. Although it won't make it to any demo disc due to how grim it all is. Its also less melodramatic than the above "Back to 1942". I wonder if this one doesn't have a place in the all time top 10 of WW2 films. I am sorry I waited so long to watch this one.
post #88 of 109
A few I don't think I saw -

Sunshine

Armored Command

Slaughterhouse-Five


Sunshine (Sonnenschein) is a stunner if you're sensitive to it. Three hours of three generations of Hungarian Jews. What could be move boring? But it's not.

AC is a cheapie b-movie that made good. Good luck finding it.

I always thought S5 was one of the better efforts at translating a difficult book into film. I may be the only one though.
post #89 of 109
Thread Starter 
I saw Army of Crime tonight, a terrific movie about the French underground resistance. Many of these resistance movies can get maudlin and sentimental, but this one played it straight. Certainly one of the best movies I can recall about this subject, up there with Army of Shadows. This is streaming on Netflix also, but not in HD. This movie is well worth HD and is available on Blu Ray, I could punch myself for not watching it on Blu ray first. Get the blu.
post #90 of 109
Thread Starter 
I watched The Sun today, a film about Hirohito's last says as emperor. It was very good, you can see it streaming from netflix. A terrific by Issei Ogata, who manages to sustain interest in an otherwise stagy movie. If you ever wondered what it might have been like to go from living god to just a regular guy, this movie depicts that. It's not an action movie, more like a chamber drama, so don't go in expecting any action. Supposedly it tried hard for historical authenticity. It is often grouped in a trilogy of character studies on powerful men that the director Sokurov did, and based on the strength of this one I intend to watch the others, which deal with Hitler and Lenin.
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