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channel set up for Magnavox MDR-513H/F7 320GB DVR and DVD Recorder

post #1 of 9
Thread Starter 
Signed up for DIRCTV. How do you reprogram the channels. I do automatic and it doesn't work. When I set up to record it has DVT 1. and then can move the 2nd box to only 98 but does not record from whatever number I put in.
post #2 of 9

All satellite channels are enrypted so the Mag can't tune them with its tuner. You won't use the Mag tuner unless you also connect an indoor or outdoor antenna or a cable TV feed for channels the Mag can tune.

 

You connect to a sat system as illustrated in Sketch 4 and explained here.

 

You have to record/copy from analog outputs (composite YWR RCA or S-Video) as described here. See "Recording from STB" and "Tips" subjects in that help file.

post #3 of 9
Thread Starter 
Thank you for such a quick reply. I kinda thought that might be the case. I hooked it up according to the pictures in the manual. I am 125 miles from all towers and don't get good antenna reception, so went to cable only about 12 years ago. I bought the Magnavox when the VCRs quit. I don't use it that much anymore since I retired. I used to record a couple soap operas and Jeopardy to watch at night. So I haven't recorded that much in the past couple/three years. still, feel bad about it though because would record some Turner Classic Movies which I would miss and watch later.

Guess that is the way it goes, every time you get a new set up, the other doesn't work. When digital came along my Slingbox wouldn't work.

I appreciate your links, lots to know about the recorder. Guess I will put it back in the box and when this DirecTV contract is up, see if cable offers anything cheaper since I know when the contract is up, the monthly bill will double. Some people I know change every year or two, which seems a pain, but guess it works. Thank you again.
post #4 of 9
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Originally Posted by starbright57 View Post

...I haven't recorded that much in the past couple/three years. still, feel bad about it though because would record some Turner Classic Movies which I would miss and watch later.

Guess that is the way it goes, every time you get a new set up, the other doesn't work. When digital came along my Slingbox wouldn't work.

... lots to know about the recorder. Guess I will put it back in the box and when this DirecTV contract is up, see if cable offers anything cheaper since I know when the contract is up, the monthly bill will double. Some people I know change every year or two, which seems a pain, but guess it works...

I've recorded many thousands of movies from Turner Classic Movies since I got my first DVD Recorders in 2005 and HDD/DVD recorders in 2007.

My local Comcast service scrambles everything so I have to use their converter boxes. DirecTV is another service that scrambles everything so you have to use their tuner.

I've compared pricing between Comcast and satellite services. They are all within a few dollars of each other for similar service packages (after the initial sale promotion ends).

The connections to record with a Magnavox HDD/DVD recorder (or any other recorder) are simple enough but the sketches sometimes make it look complicated.

There are three basic connection methods for recording from a converter box or tuner:

1. The recording may be made from the RF output of the converter box or tuner to the RF input of the Magnavox. With this connection method the Magnavox records everything through analog channel 3 (or 4). With a RF connection a Magnavox channel scan will find just one channel, 3 (or 4).The Magnavox has to be connected to the TV with one of the other outputs, not the RF connection. Then with the TV's remote select the appropriate input for viewing the Magnavox output.

2. The recording may be made from the S-Video output and white/red audio outputs of the cable box or tuner to the corresponding inputs of the Magnavox. The S-Video input has to be enabled in a Magnavox menu. Then with the TV's remote select the appropriate input for viewing the Magnavox output. This connection method bypasses the Magnavox tuner so a channel scan will not find any "channels."

3. The recording may be made from the yellow RCA video output and white/red audio outputs of the cable box or tuner to the corresponding inputs of the Magnavox. Then with the TV's remote select the appropriate input for viewing the Magnavox output. This connection method bypasses the Magnavox tuner so a channel scan will not find any "channels."

Of course, all the tuning is done by the cable box or tuner so it's necessary to make sure it's tuned to the channel one wants to record.

When setting up a scheduled recording be sure to choose the appropriate source (input) for the recording. That source would be one of the three mentioned above:

The RF input would be analog channel 3 (or 4).

The rear panel input, either S-Video or yellow RCA video plus the white/red audio would be L1.

The front panel input, either S-Video or yellow RCA video plus the white/red audio would be L2.
Edited by DigaDo - 8/6/13 at 8:12pm
post #5 of 9
Thread Starter 
thank you...you are so helpful and I am glad if I get this figured out, I will be able to record some movies to watch later, or Jeopardy which cBS has put at an inconvenient time.


I've had it every which way.

I have it this way now: RF to Directv box. r/y/w connections between Mag and Directv. HDMI out to HDMI2 to tv. With this set up the Mag window says L2 . TV set to HDMI2 says no signal. So as you said L2 is on the back.

I think yesterday I had r/y/w connection from MAG to tv HDMI 1 and I could get a signal and could run as scan of channels and do a timed recording, but upon playing the recording, it was snow.

I'm sorry, but I am not all that techy and cannot understand where to get channel 3 or 4 to show up. I'm just not getting things in order or something. Somtimes I can click around and move cords, etc., and maybe get it right. But...not this time.


Hope you still have one thread of patience to help. :-) I appreciate it very much because I love the Mag and movies. Love old movies. I already cancelled the premium channels on the Directv. Don't know how people pay an extra $47 a month for those channels. It is old movies I want to watch. Wished I had talked to you about the prices before I switched.
post #6 of 9
Thread Starter 
ok....story changed.....figured out what I did yesterday and read your instructions better, so ignore the setup of the prior message.

Now I have the Mag and TV connected and can at least watch the movies I already have recoreded.

RF to Directv

Directv Out to Mag IN with r/y/w cords

Magnavox OUT with HDMI cord to HDMI 1.. OUT is the only r/r/w

ran the scan an it ran through all the channels.

I have sound with gray/black screen with no picture. I think it is my CBS local news channel which was the old Magnavox channel 3

Mag box says L1 and when I use the mag remote it only moves to L2 and L3.

Don't know just what to do next to get the picture and maybe record. Hope you can see what I am doing wrong. Thank you
post #7 of 9
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Originally Posted by starbright57 View Post

thank you...you are so helpful and I am glad if I get this figured out, I will be able to record some movies to watch later, or Jeopardy which cBS has put at an inconvenient time.


I've had it every which way.

I have it this way now: RF to Directv box. r/y/w connections between Mag and Directv. HDMI out to HDMI2 to tv. With this set up the Mag window says L2 . TV set to HDMI2 says no signal. So as you said L2 is on the back.

I think yesterday I had r/y/w connection from MAG to tv HDMI 1 and I could get a signal and could run as scan of channels and do a timed recording, but upon playing the recording, it was snow.

I'm sorry, but I am not all that techy and cannot understand where to get channel 3 or 4 to show up. I'm just not getting things in order or something. Somtimes I can click around and move cords, etc., and maybe get it right. But...not this time.


Hope you still have one thread of patience to help. :-) I appreciate it very much because I love the Mag and movies. Love old movies. I already cancelled the premium channels on the Directv. Don't know how people pay an extra $47 a month for those channels. It is old movies I want to watch. Wished I had talked to you about the prices before I switched.

You've misread my earlier post concerning the locations of the L1 and L2 inputs.

For the initial set up I suggest using the yellow video and white/red audio connections from the satellite receiver outputs to the Mangnavox inputs. One or the other of these connections will provide you with the best recorded picture quality:

Line Input 1 is on the rear panel of the Magnavox. (This connection doesn't make use of the Magnavox tuner. You will not run a channel scan because there are no channels.) Your Magnavox recording (selected with the SOURCE button on the Magnavox remote) will be through L1. If the Magnavox is not set to record from L1 your recording will be blank.

Line Input 2 is on the front panel of the Magnavox. (This connection doesn't make use of the Magnavox tuner. You will not run a channel scan because there are no channels.) Your Magnavox recording (selected with the SOURCE button on the Magnavox remote) will be through L2. If the Magnavox is not set to record from L2 your recording will be blank.

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This connection method does not provide the best picture quality:

The way to get channel 3 (or 4) through the Magnavox tuner is to have a RF connection from the satellite box to the RF (antenna) input on the Magnavox and run a channel scan. Then you tune your satellite tuner to the channel you want to record and then record channel 3 (or 4) on the Magnavox. If the Magnavox is not set to record from analog channel 3 (or 4) your recording will be blank.
post #8 of 9
With DirecTV your Maggy is a slave of the Satellite STB. I mean, what you watch on DirecTV is what you can record on the Maggy via L1 or L2.

If you want to record any other channel, you will need to plug an antenna or cable cord to the Mag's RF IN.
post #9 of 9
Thread Starter 
Thank you!! it works!! I am so happy. You are a angel for sure. I mentioned I was not a techy,...guess I should have said I was a nitwit. I did not get the Line out into the whole story. I undid everything and started over and it worked. Thank you so much for your patience and in telling me again. You have made my day, my week, my year. I hope this connection keeps working and something isn't changed someplace.

I came to this site last fall when my Mag had just turned up with a time on it that didn't move and someone helped me then by telling me to unplug it overnight. So I did and the next day I was able to reset it. Had to do it again a couple months ago. I actually have two of these. One has different numbers on it and plays VCRs too. I got this one first and it is on my main TV. the other is in the utility room. I got it to watch in there, since it is sort of a work room too. Figured it might as well record too as well as be able to watch tv.

I have the philosophy that if someone helps me, I need to help someone else. I help a 97 year old fellow who is really keeping up with the times and needs help every now and then. Just tonight I went over and helped clean up his email and show him how to send a link to someone with his email. He calls every now and then and I have always been able to get his computer fixed up and running. I also help another friend and clean it up so it runs better.

So, your helping me is letting your helpfulness travel on. Again, thank you, I am extremely grateful that you took time to get my dear little Magnavox back to working. I never record anything while watching anything else, so it works fine for my purposes. I will just set the channel on L1 I and set up my timed recording and it will be there when I get home.

Happy computing.....sooooooooo glad there are wonderful people like you!!
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