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post #31 of 579
The Sony HMZ-T3 will be released here in Japan shortly, I had a chance to try one out over the weekend and despite it still being only 720p the picture quality was a big improvement to me over the T2. The screen looked much bigger and more immersive, I was really impressed and you couldn't even tell it's 720p. The sound was just WOW it now has Dolby True HD and honestly, I felt like I was in an IMAX. Truly amazing sound quality through their little headphones. I was then able to try it with Sony's 7.1 channel over the ear headphones and it was even better.
I was able to watch 3D scenes from Avengers, Transformers 3, Avatar and a trailer for Star Trek. The 3D was damn good just as the T2 was, but due to the bigger looking screen and better quality it felt more realistic and sucked me in. The scene downtown towards the end of Transformers had so much depth that I felt like I was standing in the city looking out.eek.gif

I was not able to fool around in the menu and see new features but was told there are some for adjusting the picture quality and sound.

However, on a downside.... though it was a bit lighter than the T2, it was still a bit heavy and not comfortable to wear. Sony added small pads on the back straps that don't really help much. It still hurts your nose and will leave your forehead red, I can see me making cushion pads for this one as well as it forsure will need them. I don't understand why Sony don't make it more comfortable?!
post #32 of 579
Great early review bravia3d, who do sony test these on? Even though I haven't owned a hmz yet, I've been thinking of trying to get a pre-owned t1, they all seem to be uncomfortable, surely that quite a simple thing to sort out! By the way if anyone has a t1 or t2 up for grabs pm me (in uk)
post #33 of 579
I was able to try it out at a local Yodobashi camera store. Often times before products are released they try to show them off at electronic stores to get public interest here. I had to wait in a super long line, but well worth it!
post #34 of 579
Will you be parting with your cash to purchase one and any news on the supposed vr headset sony are said to be demoing this week at toyko?
post #35 of 579
I'll probably buy one when it's released as I loved the T2.

I have heard of the VR headset but no news on it yet. Just waiting like others to see it cool.gif
post #36 of 579
Read my Praxis Report of HMZ-T3W from IFA http://www.hifi-forum.de/index.php?action=browseT&forum_id=216&thread=440&postID=2027#2027
Sorry only in German, because my english Is Bad.
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post #38 of 579
Scarl or Bravia, did you notice any internal light reflections? T1 and T2 had ring of light around the screen(or on the outer rim) that caused the so called tunnel vision effect.
post #39 of 579
The internal light reflections ist highter then 1! or 2, thats bad. More tunnel vision effect.
And the Fit on the head is worse.
post #40 of 579
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Originally Posted by scarl-marci View Post

The internal light reflections ist highter then 1! or 2, thats bad. More tunnel vision effect.
And the Fit on the head is worse.

Oh god, that sounds bad. mad.gif
post #41 of 579
And on the Sony UK page.

Built-in battery - The T3’s lithium battery holds a 3-hour charge when used with a wireless HD connection, and lasts 7 hours with an HDMI connection

I thought the battery was only for the wireless version but, from the above statement, it looks like both versions take power from an internal battery which adds another point of failure that is completely unnecessary on the wired version.

I guess they didnt want two separate units for Wired vs non-wired so they put a battery in there for the one unit that can be used in both modes.

Which implies, if this is lighter than a T2 WITH a battery, it would have been awesome without one.
post #42 of 579
you can have a look at it....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQig04Xgy28
post #43 of 579
Looks and sounds the part, still about £800 too expensive, lottery win required!!!!, first thing I would buy though if the numbers cqme up!
post #44 of 579
The whole time I used it I never noticed internal light reflections at all, the picture looked amazing and I felt it was much better than the T2.

The fit on my head was fine after adjusting the straps but just as the T1 and T2 models I feel it may need some better cushion pads.

The battery I believe is only for the wireless version.

"Built-in battery - The T3’s lithium battery holds a 3-hour charge when used with a wireless HD connection, and lasts 7 hours with an HDMI connection"

That does not mean for both versions, it means using the wireless version with a wireless HD connection you get 3 hours of use. But plugging an HDMI into it you get 7 hours of use. So a wireless HD connection is using much more power.



In short, my feeling is the new T3 model will be badass! I have been wanting a model I can take places and use a battery watching movies off my Smartphone. all you'd have to do is convert your 3D movies into SBS, slap them on your phone or iPad and then watch them on the go! I can imagine even using these for FPV flying.
Edited by bravia3D - 9/10/13 at 2:58pm
post #45 of 579
But if you are only using them for gaming and blu-ray, are they much better than the t1 or t2?, if anyone out there is going to get rid of there t1 or t2, I'll gladly take them off your hands
post #46 of 579
Here is the wireless version on the Sony UK site. £1,299.00 Incl. Vat

http://www.sony.co.uk/product/personal-3d-viewer/hmz-t3w

Sony Japan has both

T3 is 80,000 yen = ~$800
T3W is 100,000 yen = ~$1,000

http://store.sony.jp/Special/Visual/Hmd/Hmz-t3/index.html?s_pid=msc_top_pickup_130905


Here is my guess as to how this thing works. Looking at the pictures, there are 3 main pieces to the wireless version. The base unit, the HMD and the battery pack that is connected to the HMD.

Base Unit

This transmits the signal to the HMD via wireless.

Battery Pack


The battery pack powers the HMD but also has a MHL and HDMI connection so you can take the HMD with you and plug in your phone, laptop, etc. to view content on the go. HDMI can provide a small amount of power to the HMD if connected to extend the battery life from 3 to 7 hours.

That's my guess. I'm not sure how different the base units will be between the wired and wireless.
post #47 of 579
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Originally Posted by bravia3D View Post

The battery I believe is only for the wireless version.

Built-in battery means the battery is built-in to the unit so you used it but never saw it which is why you think there is no battery and dont confuse it with the additional one they give you which is to compensate for the extra power required by wireless and keep the battery life decent which it barely manages to do at 3 hours.

If wired also meant powered-through-the-wire like the T1 and T2 were, why would their specs on wired usage still talk of a battery life.

The other major piece of evidence is that unlike the previous models that used a proprietary connection to the display that provided full power in a way only Sony knew about, the T3 base unit uses a regular HDMI on the base unit and, thus, probably a micro-HDMI on the other, and since you cant pass much power this way, the unit uses the built-in battery for 100% of its power when in use and the HDMI incoming power is just used to trickle charge it at the same time like an active UPS, probably at 50%, making the battery last twice as long.

I believe at that price difference, the only difference will be in the display unit itself which will not have the wireless functionality [removable tiny WiFi card like a netbook] whereas the base units in both models will be able to do wireless as this is cheaper to just have built-in to the circuit board.

The Engagdget pics are a lot clearer than the ones above in terms of showing close-up details.
Edited by nikonf5 - 9/11/13 at 6:56am
post #48 of 579
Bravida3D couple of questions 1 the sweet spot of the T2 is that improved? 2 The tunnel vision is it still there?
Good report
post #49 of 579
So far its looking sweet, love the whole wireless feature. I assume they all run off the battery? As in there is no mains power cord running to the machine?

Anyways i'll likely be buying the T3! I don't think i'll be keeping both, the T2 cost me 1k, the T3 is likely to cost 1.5K (Australian) and thats not even counting the loss ill incur when selling my T2.
post #50 of 579
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Originally Posted by scarl-marci View Post

The internal light reflections ist highter then 1! or 2, thats bad. More tunnel vision effect.
And the Fit on the head is worse.
Sad news for everyone.

@Bravia3D
You said that the screen feels bigger than the screen on T2....how is that possible when the FOV is maintained at 45 degree?

Finally support DTS....yes.
post #51 of 579
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Originally Posted by Skylinestar View Post

Sad news for everyone.

@Bravia3D
You said that the screen feels bigger than the screen on T2....how is that possible when the FOV is maintained at 45 degree?

Finally support DTS....yes.

Maybe the screen seems more far away. I noticed that 3d content sometimes makes the screen look smaller, because the image comes closer to you. This effect is particularly strong with pc gaming, because you can crank up depth and convergence.
post #52 of 579
want to know if the sweer spot is still the narrow one as the t1 and t2 or has it improved? and any blurry edges on the screen like the past 2?
Edited by vaktmestern - 9/16/13 at 1:48pm
post #53 of 579
I didn't notice any tunnel vision, but then again I would need to try it out more for full results. The screen did seem bigger, perhaps due to the content shown. Didn't notice blurry edges either, looked very nice and I forsure will buy one.
post #54 of 579
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Originally Posted by bravia3D View Post

I didn't notice any tunnel vision, but then again I would need to try it out more for full results. The screen did seem bigger, perhaps due to the content shown. Didn't notice blurry edges either, looked very nice and I forsure will buy one.

Do you know when do they release the T3 in Japan since they have been selling it in UK already ? "The Sony Japan scheduled on November" Can wait no longer , wanna own one as soon as possible .
post #55 of 579
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Originally Posted by batista11b5 View Post

Do you know when do they release the T3 in Japan since they have been selling it in UK already ? "The Sony Japan scheduled on November" Can wait no longer , wanna own one as soon as possible .

on pre order again:

http://www.sony.co.uk/product/personal-3d-viewer/hmz-t3w
post #56 of 579
Think ill jump in aswell cool.gif lill bummed out on the only 720p on gen 3 but havent preorderd one yet
post #57 of 579
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Originally Posted by borland View Post

on pre order again:

http://www.sony.co.uk/product/personal-3d-viewer/hmz-t3w

loll , you know what 1300 GBP equivalent over 2000$, hahaha
So => wait for Japanese version on ebay for super much lower price biggrin.gif
post #58 of 579
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Originally Posted by batista11b5 View Post

loll , you know what 1300 GBP equivalent over 2000$, hahaha
So => wait for Japanese version on ebay for super much lower price biggrin.gif

Ebay price pluss import tax wink.gif may turn out more exspensive and no warranty rolleyes.gif
post #59 of 579
Comes out in November here in Japan, I been checking pre-order sites and they aren't taking them yet.

I could possibly sell them on my website a bit cheaper.
post #60 of 579
Could well be inrrested in order one from you. Orderd not shure why against all warnings on forum sites a smd 1080 ... soz i had to try it lol
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