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JTR Noessis 228HT's or Aperion Verus Grand's

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About to finally bite the bullet. Had made up my mind on the Aperion's, but read great stuff on the JTR's. Has anyone heard both of them? Doing a 5.1 with SVS PB Ultra. Will be moving a few times in the next few years, so my current room size is not critical to my decision (other than the fact that I could end up needing them relatively close to a wall). 50/50 music/HT. If I go with the JTR's I will have to use another brand for surrounds - at least for a while. I don't care about the aesthetics. I care about sound quality.

Most probably pairing with Yamaha 1030 and Emotiva XPA-5. Could run them just from the Yamaha and wait til I have the cash to do the XPR-5. Don't have the cash to demo them both sets of speakers in my home.
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I own the 228s and an XPA-5. They work great together. Can't help you with the Aperions.
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That's probably going to be a tough one as the 228HT's have oly been around for about 5 months so not a lot of people have heard them.

I know everytime I listen to mine I can't believe how great they sound, but of course sound is so subjective. I do think they sound better then the Paradigm Studio 100v5's that I had in my theatre room for a little while.
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I used to own Aperion Verus Grand bookshelves and center along with Intimus 4BP for surrounds. I have to say they were pretty good speakers but I ended up returning them. Nothing wrong with the sound but I wanted to listen to as many options as possible before making final choices. At that time I was auditioning many different brands so by the time I was all said and done I now own JTR Noesis 228HT for LCR and CHT PRO-10s for surrounds along with a pair of Cap 1000s and pair of CHT SS18P subs and Tekton Seas Pendragons for my second setup and I have been very happy ever since!!

You mention you will be moving a lot so you may want to consider the fact that JTRs are MUCH bigger/heavier than Aperion Verus so also depending on your space the size may be a factor.

However, if that is not an issue go for the JTRs. The sub you mentioned is a good one. I also had a pair of SVS SB12s before I packed them up and gave to my brother after receiving my newer gear.

Good luck to you!
Edited by seifer300 - 8/13/13 at 2:24pm
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Haven't heard the 228ht's but with you saying you're 50/50 listener the biggest difference is going to be the horn vs the dome tweeters. I read through part of the JTR thread to see people's impressions of the 228. There is a good post from about a month ago comparing the 228 and the 212's (sorry have no clue how to link it to this thread using this smartphone). I believe it was Carp responding to someone who was 90/10 HT. He told them since they were only 10% music they should go for the 228. Try to find that, it was around page 300 in mobile format.

Aperion has free shipping both ways and 30 day in home trial. You may not be able to do side by side comparison but you can try them and if they are not what you are looking for then return them. Also contact Aperion and JTR and ask them if they have customers in your area that may be willing to let you listen to their setups. I know it won't be in your home but it may give you a better idea of what you are looking for. Most people that would let you do this are fellow forum members who could tell you their path to deciding on those speakers.

I personally have the VGT, VGC, and VGB's with an Emotiva X-ref 12 and am very happy with my setup. I am around 65/35 split and am very impressed with the musical aspects of the Aperion's. I bought new music constantly for about 6 months after buying them and even bought a Sony blu ray player to be able to listen to SACD's. Hope this helps.
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Originally Posted by volfan dhp View Post

Haven't heard the 228ht's but with you saying you're 50/50 listener the biggest difference is going to be the horn vs the dome tweeters. I read through part of the JTR thread to see people's impressions of the 228. There is a good post from about a month ago comparing the 228 and the 212's .
It's a Compression driver attached to a horn vs a dome tweeter. The 228 is a two-way design with the CD handling above 1000hz and crossing over to 2 x 8" woofers for below 1000hz. For its intended purpose (dynamic HT & live music sound) and price of below $1200 it would be hard to beat. The Noesis 212 is a 3-way design with a coaxial compression driver which is 2 in 1. Part of the CD handles the high frequencies and the other part handling down as low as 400hz then crossing over to 2 x 12" woofers for below 400hz. Both these speakers are designed to be XO to a separate subwoofer. The end result for both speakers is outstanding. The choice between the 228 & 212 should come down to how much one wants to spend. The 212 offers more than the 228 but how much and is it worth the price jump will always be a decision left up to the customer. IMO both 212 & 228 are worth every penny of the asking price.
You can read about the CDs at the BMS website.
Good Luck
Chris
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Originally Posted by seifer300 View Post

I used to own Aperion Verus Grand bookshelves and center along with Intimus 4BP for surrounds. I have to say they were pretty good speakers but I ended up returning them. Nothing wrong with the sound but I wanted to listen to as many options as possible before making final choices. At that time I was auditioning many different brands so by the time I was all said and done I now own JTR Noesis 228HT for LCR and CHT PRO-10s for surrounds along with a pair of Cap 1000s and pair of CHT SS18P subs and Tekton Seas Pendragons for my second setup and I have been very happy ever since!!
How do the 228s compare to the Seas Pendragons?
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Originally Posted by seifer300 View Post

I used to own Aperion Verus Grand bookshelves and center along with Intimus 4BP for surrounds. I have to say they were pretty good speakers but I ended up returning them. Nothing wrong with the sound but I wanted to listen to as many options as possible before making final choices. At that time I was auditioning many different brands so by the time I was all said and done I now own JTR Noesis 228HT for LCR and CHT PRO-10s for surrounds along with a pair of Cap 1000s and pair of CHT SS18P subs and Tekton Seas Pendragons for my second setup and I have been very happy ever since!!
How do the 228s compare to the Seas Pendragons?

AVSforum member thebean and I a/b'ed the Tekton Pendragon against the JTR 228HT. I slightly preferred the 228HT - but I am also the owner of the 228HT. You can read about our takes on it in the Pendragon or JTR threads. The 228HT is NOT a full range speaker. It is to be crossover to a quality pair of subs at no less than 70hz. If you want a full ranger then the Pendragon is a fantastic speaker. If you want a bit more dynamic speaker with matching L/C/R (and IMO - a wee bit cleaner sounding) then the 228HT is a great path as well. I would be happy with either speaker personally and think both are worth their rave reviews.
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