Originally Posted by Robinson ------ Is there a limit on the darbee s in terms of pixels or will they still work with 8k, etc.
So, in terms of playing 480/1080 dvds upscaled to 4k pixels (threw the ps4) the 4910 doesn't do anything else then the 4810 does. In terms of being able to play upscaled sources.
Like you said, only those native 4k sonys (15,000) will play all/any native 4k dvds. Until the jvc projectors have the 2.0 & 2.2 specs... Which will be in the next couple of years.
I just want to make sure that I can do what I want & play 480 & 1080 dvds on the ps4, have the ps4 upscale them to 4k pixels
ad be able to watch it threw the 4810.
Originally Posted by seanbryan
Perhaps I'm misunderstanding your question because I just woke up, but...
You cannot feed the 4810 upscaled 4K signals.
HDCP 2.2 protected media aside, the 4910 can accept upscaled 4K signals
(1080p upscaled to 4K by the BD player or a video processor (like the lumagen).
The 4810 can NOT accept upscaled 4K signals (1080p upscaled to 4K by the BD player or a video processor (like the lumagen).
Both projectors will, however, do internal upscaling of 1080p to 4K as part of the eshift process.The Darbee only works at up to 1080p
. Any current implementation (using external Darblet or Darbee processing in the oppo or lumagen) applies the processing to the 1080 signal before upscaling to 4K.
Again, HDCP 2.2 protected media aside, being able to accept a 4K signal (native or upscaled) is a NEW FEATURE for this year's JVC models.
Hope that's helpful.
Originally Posted by mark haflich
Darbeevision remains essentially silent on processing 4K but say they have done it in the lab. They refuse to respond to any inquiries regarding whether a 4K Darblet will be produced. My guess is that a licensee will have to produce it, not Darbeevision, which appears to have real capital limitations.
Originally Posted by krichter1
It's a great (and important), point about a Darblet and keeping it in your video chain… you'll have no choice but to let the JVC upscale to 4K
(which may be better anyhow IMO).
Originally Posted by Kris Deering
Blu-ray 4K will not be announced at CES. I'd say there is only a small change it will be announced at CEDIA next year. What HDCP will be required is unknown at the moment. Honestly, if Sony has anything to do with it, it will probably be something even higher than HDCP 2.2 given their track record (I kid of course, okay maybe not). There is still way too much in the air about what Blu-ray 4K will or won't be to even guess at what the requirements are. I'd even go so far as to say that the new Sony projectors won't support everything it brings to the table. We have no clue as to what the final color space will be. This is one of the main reasons I'm so hesitant to buy any projector right now, native 4K or not.
The Sony has a better chance of meeting most of what the format has to offer, no doubt, but that doesn't mean it can achieve the other specs such as color gamut. Everything is a big gamble right now and given how Sony handled the 1000ES out of the gate and 4K in general, I'm even more reluctant to tell anyone that any projector should fit the bill for the foreseeable future with anything more than what is commercially available now for playback software. So in that respect, the Sony has the leg up with the Sony 4K puck server and Sony's own movie catalog. JVC can do upscaled content from various Blu-ray players or native 4K from the Red Ray player and the other one (don't remember the other one right off the top of my head). All of these seem to be showing 4K with Blu-ray like specs but higher native resolution. So basically a stop gap until something else comes down the pipe.
Originally Posted by Craig Peer
Merry Christmas everyone. I hope UPS got you your JVC yesterday if you were expecting it. Otherwise you'll have a bonus present tomorrow or Friday.
I feel that we will be watching Blu Rays for quite a few years to come anyway. Even if 4K Blu Rays started to ship in 2015, it could be at least 3 more years after that before a meaningful number of titles were available to buy / rent / watch. Hell, I'm still waiting for certain movies to be re-mastered and be released on Blu Ray. You could buy a projector now and be ready to upgrade / replace it by the time 4K UHD Blu Rays are really ready for prime time
Thank you guys for your professional info.
So, if I use a darbee it doesn't matter if I have a 4910 or 4810 (for native 4k & upscaled 4k inputs), the darbee can only have 1080 go threw it. Therefore you have to let the projector upscale 480/1080 to 4k pixels.
So then it makes sense to get the native 4k projector in a few yrs for my next projector. Unless I have thousands to get one each year or I do not have a eshift projector... If I didn't have a eshift projector, I would defiantly get the 4910/or any of this yrs.
Since I have a eshift projector already the only way I would consider the 4910 (because of all of that upscale to 4k input/darbee stuff) would be if the DI is Banging and it makes the PQ, etc. a lot better.