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post #3301 of 3990
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Originally Posted by cardoski View Post

The picture on the X500 is truly stunning worth every cent.

Great to hear! Looking forward to adding a 4910 hopefully at some point this year.
post #3302 of 3990
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Originally Posted by Toe View Post

NO, JVC should have included in their memo to dealers when the FW fix was announced that IF you needed cables/adapters (IOW, you don't already have the necessary tools) to contact your dealer or JVC and they would be happy to provide said tools. To me, this is the least they could have done in light of what a souring PITA experience this has been for a LOT of their customers for something they screwed up.

I cant believe this is an argument to be honest. When I have screwed up things on the job, it gets fixed by me including all expenses. This should be customer service 101 IMO (but sadly, it is not).

I agree, but again, NO ONE HERE HAS CONTACTED JVC AND ASKED THE QUESTION! Has anyone asked their dealer about the fix and if they'll provide the cable if necessary? I'm not saying JVC shouldn't have to do anything here, only that NO ONE HAS ASKED! Everyone is just saying what they think they should get.
post #3303 of 3990
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Originally Posted by Mr. Hatcher View Post

First, your coming off rude man. I have an opinion that I'm entitled to voice. That's why I put IMO (IN MY OPINION). It's an opinion...people have them. Get it?

I don't even have a JVC, I have the Sony HW55, but I'm considering selling it and scooping one of these up.

I just feel for the customers that are having this issue. Obviously you don't give a $h!t. If you think JVC's fix is "good" enough, so be it. That's your opinion I guess, but I don't agree with it.

So we'll leave it at that. Agree to disagree. wink.gif

And no one has said anything bad about AVS, those guys are awesome and are doing their due diligence in this matter to make it easier for the affected individuals.

You're right, I don't give a S*^T. I never work with JVC on issues they have, or any other of the multitude of companies I've helped address problems for that matter. I just tell people to suck it up and deal. rolleyes.gif

I'm not saying that the fix being offered right now is "good enough", only that if it isn't good enough then contact your dealer or JVC and see what other options you have. Maybe they will give you a cable. Maybe they will have an installer or dealer come out and do the fix themselves. Complaining about it on a forum won't get anything done and that is all that people are doing. Mike gave people an option if they feel they can do it themselves. He didn't say "JVC says here's the fix and do it yourself". He offered a single solution for those that want to take it. Obviously that isn't good enough for many here. So what I'm saying is instead of just saying that's not good enough and JVC sucks and should buy me a new car, CALL YOUR DEALER OR JVC IF YOU ARE HAVING ISSUES AND FIND OUT WHAT YOUR OPTIONS ARE. Then if JVC says F you, we gave you the patch now do it yourself start a class action lawsuit and scream at the top of your lungs. But at least give them a chance to fix your problem before you bitch about them not fixing it.
post #3304 of 3990
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Originally Posted by rhitch View Post

Rich, what's the latest on your delivery? Any ETA ?
I feel your pain, having to arrange contractors and all, I'm still waiting for mine, but I don't have contractors to worry about.
Ross

Not sure yet. I've heard "maybe sometime next week" but I'm not sure if that's when the Canadian projectors will be getting fixed, or when they will start shipping again.
Are you getting one too?
post #3305 of 3990
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Originally Posted by cardoski View Post

The picture on the X500 is truly stunning worth every cent.

Thank you. biggrin.gif
post #3306 of 3990
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Originally Posted by R Harkness View Post

Not sure yet. I've heard "maybe sometime next week" but I'm not sure if that's when the Canadian projectors will be getting fixed, or when they will start shipping again.
Are you getting one too?
Yes, a 57. Everything in my room is set up for it. I have to thank you though. I've watched your blog on the theatre build. A few of your ideas ended up in my basement, and you've inspired me do to a few things , because of what you have done. I'm thinking of doing the velvet curtains that hide behind things or other drapes, and pull them out when I need them. I may ask you later who you used to do the sewing. I think it's going in the budget for 2014, but not now, as it blew a ton on projector, receiver, oppo blue ray, chromapure and colorimeter , and leather theatre chairs. The piggy bank is squealing because it's got nothing rattling inside it anymore. I'm looking forward to seeing this jvc. I'm coming from and old epson 9500. I love your lift for your projector by the way. Ultimate coolness.
post #3307 of 3990
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Originally Posted by rhitch View Post

Yes, a 57. Everything in my room is set up for it. I have to thank you though. I've watched your blog on the theatre build. A few of your ideas ended up in my basement, and you've inspired me do to a few things , because of what you have done. I'm thinking of doing the velvet curtains that hide behind things or other drapes, and pull them out when I need them. I may ask you later who you used to do the sewing. I think it's going in the budget for 2014, but not now, as it blew a ton on projector, receiver, oppo blue ray, chromapure and colorimeter , and leather theatre chairs. The piggy bank is squealing because it's got nothing rattling inside it anymore. I'm looking forward to seeing this jvc. I'm coming from and old epson 9500. I love your lift for your projector by the way. Ultimate coolness.

Wow, glad I could be of help.

The use of velvet curtains to cut wall reflections (and also being able to hide them when not in use) seems to me such a great choice I'm amazed more people aren't doing it, especially when it comes to trying to strike the balance in a non-dedicated room. In 30 seconds, simply by pulling out the velvet curtains along their track, my room goes from a bright walled living room to a non-reflective bat cave that just disappears for movies, completely transporting us to the movie. It's relatively cheap and insanely efficient at getting the job done.

(In fact, I would have automated the curtains, since you can find lots of curtain motors for very good prices. My problem is that one wall has a fireplace sticking out a bit, so an automated curtain would get snagged, hence I pull them by hand. Another member, Mr.littlejeans, automated his black velvet curtains to pull along his side walls which was very cool).

And, of course, such steps pay real dividends with a black-level-champ projector like the JVC.
post #3308 of 3990
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Originally Posted by Kris Deering View Post

Has anyone asked their dealer about the fix and if they'll provide the cable if necessary?

Good question.

Lots of people's dealer is AVS; has anyone been offered anything other than what's been posted, i.e. what to buy and how to do it?

I was actually OK with the $30, but at this point am a bit steamed after having to read dozens of posts and post 6 times to find out what darn null modem cable to get.

And I'm feeling trepidation after looking through the update process and seeing posts saying make sure you do this and that; the procedure is much longer than installing the average s/w product and my experience is that only two times out of dozens have my computer's responses conformed exactly to the instructions, with accompanying puzzlement and frustration.
Edited by noah katz - 1/15/14 at 7:27pm
post #3309 of 3990
I operated under the assumption that there'd be a number of ways to get the firmware fix done. Of all the possibilities that might exist, the most convenient for me is the fix that Mike posted, even if I had to spend $30 on some tools. To be honest, I'd rather spend $30 and get the fix done now as opposed to calling up JVC and arguing over them sending me equipment or shipping the projector to them with the possibility of it getting damaged in transit and being without it for some period of time.

In other words, I fully expect that if one were to call JVC to explore repair options they'd be presented with solutions that wouldn't cost one red cent. But for me, I'd rather just do the upgrade myself and skip all the hassle that might go with a different method of repair.

I'm actually grateful that JVC USA even provided the option for a user-installed fix. Evidently JVC UK requires either a service visit to your home or for you to send your projector in, neither of which is preferable IMHO to coughing up $30 and fixing it myself right now.

So thanks JVC for providing the option of a user-installed upgrade and thanks Mike for posting the info so quickly. I didn't have to call anyone nor was I without my projector. That's a win in my book!
post #3310 of 3990
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Originally Posted by Kris Deering View Post

You're right, I don't give a S*^T. I never work with JVC on issues they have, or any other of the multitude of companies I've helped address problems for that matter. I just tell people to suck it up and deal. rolleyes.gif

I'm not saying that the fix being offered right now is "good enough", only that if it isn't good enough then contact your dealer or JVC and see what other options you have. Maybe they will give you a cable. Maybe they will have an installer or dealer come out and do the fix themselves. Complaining about it on a forum won't get anything done and that is all that people are doing. Mike gave people an option if they feel they can do it themselves. He didn't say "JVC says here's the fix and do it yourself". He offered a single solution for those that want to take it. Obviously that isn't good enough for many here. So what I'm saying is instead of just saying that's not good enough and JVC sucks and should buy me a new car, CALL YOUR DEALER OR JVC IF YOU ARE HAVING ISSUES AND FIND OUT WHAT YOUR OPTIONS ARE. Then if JVC says F you, we gave you the patch now do it yourself start a class action lawsuit and scream at the top of your lungs. But at least give them a chance to fix your problem before you bitch about them not fixing it.

I don't even have this PJ and I'm not bashing JVC either, I'm just offering a voice of opinion from the customers view point. Yes, the first thing I would've done if I were in this situation and this was the resolve that JVC offered me, would be to call JVC and ask them to send me the tools for the job. Or send me a new projector with the fix pre-applied.
post #3311 of 3990
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Originally Posted by R Harkness View Post


(In fact, I would have automated the curtains, since you can find lots of curtain motors for very good prices. My problem is that one wall has a fireplace sticking out a bit, so an automated curtain would get snagged, hence I pull them by hand. Another member, Mr.littlejeans, automated his black velvet curtains to pull along his side walls which was very cool).

And, of course, such steps pay real dividends with a black-level-champ projector like the JVC.

Hmmmmm ....automated curtains. Another cool idea....must resist...must resist. ..
I'm probably not going to do the whole room, but definitely the front half where the screen is. This dang hobby is addicting though, getting the best picture and sound.
Your room looks a real class job. Thanks for sharing the details and pictures. I can see next week as a viable date this time for your delivery. Be sure to let us know when you get it.
post #3312 of 3990
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Originally Posted by rhitch View Post

Hmmmmm ....automated curtains. Another cool idea....must resist...must resist. ..
I'm probably not going to do the whole room, but definitely the front half where the screen is. This dang hobby is addicting though, getting the best picture and sound.
Your room looks a real class job. Thanks for sharing the details and pictures. I can see next week as a viable date this time for your delivery. Be sure to let us know when you get it.

My friend bought my previous JVC RS20 projector from me. He has a modest set up in his basement: a pull down gray screen, untreated room. The projected image still looks excellent in his set up, and I enjoy
watching movies with him. But when I've seen that projector in my room and, as is the case with my current RS55, it's just a whole different experience in my room, in terms of image quality and what it's like watching movies.
He finds the same thing when he comes over. Some people are willing to go the extra mile, others are not, which is understandable. Not everyone wants to make this into a hobby.
post #3313 of 3990
Greetings,

Today I installed the RS-4910 in my theater. It is replacing the RS-55 which has performed and served me well. My unit doesn't exhibit any of the handshaking issues so I won't be installing the update at this time.

I have spent a little time with it today and am impressed... smile.gif



Regards,
post #3314 of 3990
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Originally Posted by Ralph Potts View Post

Greetings,

Today I installed the RS-4910 in my theater. It is replacing the RS-55 which has performed and served me well. My unit doesn't exhibit any of the handshaking issues so I won't be installing the update at this time.

I have spent a little time with it today and am impressed... smile.gif



Regards,

Nice to hear. smile.gif
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post #3315 of 3990
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Originally Posted by Ralph Potts View Post

Greetings,

Today I installed the RS-4910 in my theater. It is replacing the RS-55 which has performed and served me well. My unit doesn't exhibit any of the handshaking issues so I won't be installing the update at this time.

I have spent a little time with it today and am impressed... smile.gif



Regards,

Nice to know that we have the same PJ, I enjoy your reviews . smile.gif
post #3316 of 3990
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Originally Posted by Ralph Potts View Post

Greetings,

Today I installed the RS-4910 in my theater. It is replacing the RS-55 which has performed and served me well. My unit doesn't exhibit any of the handshaking issues so I won't be installing the update at this time.

I have spent a little time with it today and am impressed... smile.gif



Regards,

Sir, you are AVS Reviewer In Residence. We need more than that. tongue.gif:)
post #3317 of 3990
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Originally Posted by AV Science Sales 5 View Post

Nice to hear. smile.gif

Mike, I am considering the RS4910 and HW55ES. Do you think the JVC will smoke the Sony ? I've seen the HW55ES and the brightness is addicting. Will the JVC have enough brightness to light my 130" 2:35 screen (~1.2 gain) ? I will use this projector for 2D only.
post #3318 of 3990
I'm certainly not complaining about the fix given to Mike which was passed on to us, JVC and Mike were on top of this problem since it was first reported. My thoughts were just that I think it was wrong to release so many bad units, that passing final inspection is not nearly as good as what we all thought it was.

The fact that JVC came out with a fix so fast is excellent in my opinion, even though I think they should have produced these units with a much easier way to upgrade the firmware. Receivers, Blu-ray players, even little tablets and phones and other equipment these days can be updated right off of the internet with an ethernet connection, why not build this into this line of projectors? It would have saved the hassle and an extra $35.00 for parts to update.

Thanks Mike for your persistence on this firmware update and all of the help you gave me when I purchased the unit. When it's fully up and running, I suspect it will be a good improvement over my RS50.

By the way, Mike, there is still a problem with the 2d-3d conversion. Has this been reported? Is this in one of the firmware fixes? It does go into conversion mode but sticks there, you can't even bring up the menu of the projector and you must press any button about 15-25 times before anything can happen. This needs to be reported to JVC. Not that I really like 2d to 3d conversion, but it still is a feature of the projector. When the conversion has started, I cannot for the life of me even use the parallex, it just won't go down a step to that on the menu. Not will it do any other remote control function.

Is anyone else experiencing this? Can you please try it and see if it is widespread or just on my projector?
post #3319 of 3990
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Originally Posted by Kris Deering View Post

You're right, I don't give a S*^T. I never work with JVC on issues they have, or any other of the multitude of companies I've helped address problems for that matter. I just tell people to suck it up and deal. rolleyes.gif

I'm not saying that the fix being offered right now is "good enough", only that if it isn't good enough then contact your dealer or JVC and see what other options you have. Maybe they will give you a cable. Maybe they will have an installer or dealer come out and do the fix themselves. Complaining about it on a forum won't get anything done and that is all that people are doing. Mike gave people an option if they feel they can do it themselves. He didn't say "JVC says here's the fix and do it yourself". He offered a single solution for those that want to take it. Obviously that isn't good enough for many here. So what I'm saying is instead of just saying that's not good enough and JVC sucks and should buy me a new car, CALL YOUR DEALER OR JVC IF YOU ARE HAVING ISSUES AND FIND OUT WHAT YOUR OPTIONS ARE. Then if JVC says F you, we gave you the patch now do it yourself start a class action lawsuit and scream at the top of your lungs. But at least give them a chance to fix your problem before you bitch about them not fixing it.

Very well said, excellent except for the law suit please no need for that wink.gif
post #3320 of 3990
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Originally Posted by Ralph Potts View Post

Greetings, Today I installed the RS-4910 in my theater. It is replacing the RS-55 which has performed and served me well. My unit doesn't exhibit any of the handshaking issues so I won't be installing the update at this time.

I have spent a little time with it today and am impressed... smile.gif Regards,

That's great a happy customer biggrin.gif finally some one enjoying it
post #3321 of 3990
Good lesson for JVC and any other manufacturer.....ensure your product is performing as intended before releasing it.

Bet next round(2015) of JVC projector pre-orders are down over this years!cool.gif
post #3322 of 3990
For those who have reported success with the update, I thank you for that. I have the same prolific USB to Serial adapter many people have and I will dig out and dust off an old XP laptop and use a real serial port for the update. I won't be able to do the update until sometime next week.

Serial connections are still widely used today. It's a very simple, damn near fool proof form of communication. No handshaking needs to be done, it's good over long distances and only needs 3 wires to work. It's not the fastest but it works. USB, Ethernet, IEEE 1394, etc are much, much more complicated than plain old serial.

JVC needed to deliver an update in the quickest way possible. I would venture to guess they use serial connections in the labs to monitor equipment, install updates, etc so it likely made the most sense to use serial. Yes, the instructions are a bit cumbersome for some and requires purchasing hardware but I think most people will find a use for the USB to Serial adapters in the future.

You can bet there are a lot of questions going on at JVC Japan as to what happened. The Japanese are a very honorable people.. too much at times.. Trust me when I say I've had first hand experience with how honorable they are.. both positive and very, very negative..

I'm still very, very happy with my 4910 and if I end up selling my house in the next 3-4 years I'll likely take the projector with me and put something else in its place..that is if the buyer wants the theater functional..

Thanks to AVS for bringing the issue to JVC's attention and relaying any information to us as soon as they had it.
post #3323 of 3990
What is the reason the native contrast is doubled from the 500 to the 700?
post #3324 of 3990
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Originally Posted by joeycalda View Post

What is the reason the native contrast is doubled from the 500 to the 700?

I found that a bit confusing too (even though I've ordered the RS57/700). As per answers I got: the dual iris system of the 700 allows it to shut down further, increasing the possible native contrast, though I think only
achievable in very few set ups where you can close it down and still be bright enough.

It got more confusing a while back because, as I remember, JVC used to put out 4 models: the top two models would have the latest "wire grid polarizer" with increased contrast - the top model being the one with hand-picked parts. And the cheaper model that year would use the older chip - less contrast. But I think for the last couple years they've expanded the range. I'd assumed the 500 had one of last year's wire grid polarizer, but apparently it hast the same one as the 700 and 900, but a few features taken off for the cheaper price. Add to that it also has the new "Intelligent Lens Aperture" and I can see why it would be the go-to projector for the best bang for the buck this year.
post #3325 of 3990
A local dealer will have the 500 and the lower end model set up in the same room for comparison. It would awesome if they had the 700 and 900 as well, but that's too much to ask.

Heck if I owned an AV shop that is what I would do for my customers.
post #3326 of 3990
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Originally Posted by R Harkness View Post

Not sure yet. I've heard "maybe sometime next week" but I'm not sure if that's when the Canadian projectors will be getting fixed, or when they will start shipping again.
Are you getting one too?

I was also told sometime next week. Hoping that's ready to go with firmware.
post #3327 of 3990
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Originally Posted by Ranger View Post

Mike, I am considering the RS4910 and HW55ES. Do you think the JVC will smoke the Sony ? I've seen the HW55ES and the brightness is addicting. Will the JVC have enough brightness to light my 130" 2:35 screen (~1.2 gain) ? I will use this projector for 2D only.

I'd like to know too. Are comparos OT?
post #3328 of 3990
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Originally Posted by darinp2 View Post

For The International using either a manual position of -8 with Auto2 or enabling Super White with Contrast at 0 helped (although that reduces native on/off CR). This seems like a much dimmer sequence though. I don't have Oblivion at the moment, but I can rent it or buy it.

My gut impression is that for scenes like that and this DI implementation our choices basically come down to reducing the multiplier JVC is using, which means giving something up (lumens for white, native on/off CR, or the use of the dynamic iris).

Another use for the High Power screen smile.gif

--Darin

Fascinating conversation guys (you & Manni especially!… and welcome back Jon!! wink.gif)… thanks!

Agree… If you recall Darin that's exactly what I reported to you on The International where if I ran the iris at -3 Armin's forehead blew out rather quickly but as I clamped down to the seeming "sweet spot" of -7 (Auto 2), it seemed just about right to my eyes without sacrificing too much light output (although I really haven't measured anything after that conversation of how the cheaper equipment wasn't worth doing so… threw that sheet in the trash!). smile.gif

Quick funny story (well to me anyhow!), as I had an old friend over tonight for dinner and a movie. He used to be the buyer for Tweeter in Chicago years ago but now just runs a Magnolia division for Best Buy and was anxious to see the RS57 in action. I put on a couple of scenes from Elysium (which I just can't seem to get people like Zombie on the bandwagon to check out for it's excellent 4K mastering… I think it's just outstanding the more I watch it!… although Riddick just showed up on my doorstep today so I'll be previewing Kris' recommendation this weekend!), and had a good out loud chuckle as I put on the first deep space scene when the missles are fired on the ships trying to infiltrate Elysium. His only initial reaction was… "Holy F**n S**t does that look great!". I laughed because just this morning I had read a similar post from GaryB on AVF, where one of the salesman walked by his office and said… "F** me that looks good!". Guess they can't all be wrong and we may just have a real winner on our hands gentleman! biggrin.gif
post #3329 of 3990
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Originally Posted by R Harkness View Post

I found that a bit confusing too (even though I've ordered the RS57/700). As per answers I got: the dual iris system of the 700 allows it to shut down further, increasing the possible native contrast, though I think only
achievable in very few set ups where you can close it down and still be bright enough.
There is the part about being able to shut down further, but dual irises where one is between the lens and imaging chip(s) and one is in the lens tend to improve native on/off CR better than a single iris in the lens for the same reduction in white level.

DLPs are different than LCOS, but I'll use a DLP as an example. Using round numbers from what I recall, with the Sharp 12k we could get about 1200:1 and 900 lumens with both irises open. Closing just the lens iris would reduce the white level significantly (more than half IIRC) and result in somewhere around 2000:1 on/off CR. Now closing the other iris didn't reduce the white level much more, but got close to 4000:1 on/off CR at around 300 lumens.

Those irises just had one position each. With the last JVC with dual irises I checked out each step down would close one of the irises a little more, alternating with each step to keep them in sync.

I tried to explain why I thought a dual iris in a DLP would have that kind of effect, after I modified an Optoma H79 to about 9000:1 on/off CR (but not a lot of light). I'll try again.

Let's consider a system where if we consider the cross-section of the lens where an iris would be placed as having a uniform intensity for white that is the size of a dime and a uniform intensity for black that is the size of a quarter and all from scattered light. If we put a round iris after the lamp and a round dimed sized iris for the white in the lens, then we get a certain amount of light through for white and a certain amount for black, resulting in a specific on/off CR. now what happens using ideal assumptions if we cut the iris in the lens in half? Both white and black go down to half (since area goes to half and intensity per area stays the same), leaving the same on/off CR.

However, if we then go cut the lamp iris in half such that it perfectly lines up with the lens iris, what happens? If he light for white is perfectly controlled then the white level stays the same. The white light that is being blocked by the lamp iris was blocked by lens iris before anyway. However, the same is not true for the light for black since that is scattered light and uncontrolled. By blocking half the light for black before it even gets to the imaging chips there is half as much light to scatter in the lens. With this 2nd step the area for the black going through the lens is the same, but the intensity is half as much as without the lens iris. So for this case twice as much on/off CR.

And the irises can be halved again for another doubling of on/off CR for this ideal case. Of course, real world cases don't fit that ideal (the black level through the lens isn't only random light for one), but I believe the factor I described is relevant to on/off CR increasing as dual irises are closed, if they are placed and synced correctly.

I hope that made some sense.

As far as how it relates to the single iris vs dual iris JVCs, the specs are for being able to get some advantage of the dual iris system. If both irises need to be open to get enough light then having both irises doesn't do much good (although the lamp iris may help native at manual position 0, but likely only if it is closing off some light and reducing maximum lumens). If a person could use a middle position with the RS49 they would probably get some advantage to on/off CR with a dual iris model, but I'm not sure how much.

--Darin
Edited by darinp2 - 1/15/14 at 10:53pm
post #3330 of 3990
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Originally Posted by Kris Deering View Post

You're right, I don't give a S*^T. I never work with JVC on issues they have, or any other of the multitude of companies I've helped address problems for that matter. I just tell people to suck it up and deal. rolleyes.gif

I'm not saying that the fix being offered right now is "good enough", only that if it isn't good enough then contact your dealer or JVC and see what other options you have. Maybe they will give you a cable. Maybe they will have an installer or dealer come out and do the fix themselves. Complaining about it on a forum won't get anything done and that is all that people are doing. Mike gave people an option if they feel they can do it themselves. He didn't say "JVC says here's the fix and do it yourself". He offered a single solution for those that want to take it. Obviously that isn't good enough for many here. So what I'm saying is instead of just saying that's not good enough and JVC sucks and should buy me a new car, CALL YOUR DEALER OR JVC IF YOU ARE HAVING ISSUES AND FIND OUT WHAT YOUR OPTIONS ARE. Then if JVC says F you, we gave you the patch now do it yourself start a class action lawsuit and scream at the top of your lungs. But at least give them a chance to fix your problem before you bitch about them not fixing it.

F'n a Right Kris… well said!! You guys wanted a quick fix… you got it (unprecedented turn around IMO so major Kudos to JVC on this!). You don't wanna do the update (the right way as clearly written on the doc!)?? Then don't do it… call JVC… and like most all other CEM's they will have you either take the PJ to your closest service center or worse yet as Dylan rightfully stated… ship it back and risk further damage by the UPS monkey squad… thank you but Hellz NO I say (F that!). Simple solution really… and OMG… all this over what took most 15 minutes to do (as long as you were willing to follow the clear instructions that is!). Wow… unbelievable to me.

I did a lot of testing and reporting quickly back to you guys on this issue (to my knowledge the first to report it), but again as I think Dylan stated not everyone had this problem (at all!), and even me having this problem initially it went away as soon as I removed a Bluerigger 3' cable from the Lumagen to the Darblet; solely using Monoprice cables. Now that I run with just the Mini going to the PJ, I have had NO problems since. So I'm convinced it's a particular chipset the JVC did not code for in the handshake table (HDMI issues have been plaguing the CEM's for years now… what a CRAPOLA design… F'n HDCP! rolleyes.gif so I don't necessarily blame JVC here).

Let's just get it updated and start enjoying what I have found so far to be the best projector I have owned to date… Uhh... IMO I mean! wink.gif


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