Originally Posted by Seegs108
I think there are a fair share of politics involved when many reviewers write up reviews. They're all starting to sound like speaker reviews. I don't think I've ever read a negative review for floorstanding speakers.
Now, almost all of today's projectors do put out great imagery but reading through most of the reviews it's hard to tell which one is truly "better" overall. I realize there are room/screen size specific projectors recommended when it comes to extra brightness needed, but let's face it, almost every projector that came out this year in the under $10000 market has a very similar amount of calibrated lumens. With things being just about equal in terms of brightness (I realize there are a few outliers) this makes it a lot easier to say which projector is truly better. To someone who hasn't seen a ton of different projectors this can make it hard to find the best value for their money. If anyone has read ProjectorCentral over the years you'd think Panasonic made the ABSOLUTE best projectors no matter the price range. If you read AVForums you'd realize right away they favor JVC projectors and make it sound as if they have no equal in terms of overall picture quality in any price range. Clearly someone is getting paid off to favor one company over another. This is why an independent source who has a lot of experience with many projectors, calibration, correct environment and someone who has the time to write well thought out reviews is key. Zombie is definitely that someone that this forum needs. He gives his Gods honest subjective opinion because he doesn't have a company looking over his shoulder.
Mark, you make fun of him for using an HP screen, but there are several people out there who claim their StudioTek 130 is a reference screen. The HP may have some issues but I think it gives an image just as clean as the 130 material. The HP has a bit of texture due to the glass beads and the 130 has a noticeable amount of sparkles that can be seen within the image.
You using the words "making fun of him" does not convey the laudatory nature of my post. You should have seen the way I lit into him about his all white room when I first saw it. I was gentle of course, I was a guest for several days. All I really said was I'll be back next week with 5 gals of black paint. I think he might of said the HP helps make up for bad rooms. But he took it to heart, not swiftly, but slowly he fixed the room and even HE can see the dramatic improvements.
Now your last comment about there are people who think Studeotec 130 is a reference quality screen so somehow that makes it OK to think HP is a reference quality screen? In reality anything can be used for a reference, its just a marker of various qualities, some screens having some of these qualities better and some worse. A stretched bed sheet could be a reference as well as a rough textured DIY painted on sheetrock screen. The problem is learning what the state of the art is with respect to each quality instead of saying I have a really really big screen and gain is what I need especially since I watch a lot of 3D and HP gives me the gain I need without any adverse impacts on image quality. what does it do bad, What doesn't it do as good as some others. So many HP freaks say I don't see it doing anything bad to the image.A reference screen lets you see things lesser screens don't and make things you shouldn't see like screen texture go away. Can you see you never are aware that you are looking at an image projected on a material. Does the screen material vanish?i
The truth is he doesn't know how much better an image overall he could have with a reference quality screen. Not as big, not as bright, but.overall better
More real, less texture, sharper yada yada
So here is the rub.I ask Jason to say to himself, I am a projector reviewer. I need to evaluate the performance of projectors. This means I need a great room, one that doesn't take away from projector performance and measurement of same. I have that now. I also need a truly neutral screen, one that has no characteristics that might mask or subtract from the projector's performance. For reviewing its not about having the biggest screen and needing a high gain screen. So you get a reference quality screen. One that scores high in every characteristic and one that can resolve and sharply delineate 4K pixels. You control the brightness by keeping the screen small. Keep the HP, one will need a really wide screen (10 ft at least) to fully evaluated 4K source quality. But get a smaller, say 100 inch D reference screen for critical evaluations. To let you better see what the projector is doing. Sooner or later he will. Maybe he will review a few screens. But sooner or later he will err see the light and not need to have it so large or bright as to be blinded by it.Edited by mark haflich - 9/30/13 at 7:03am