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My denon appears to be partial DOA need some advise

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Simply put, the video is great on the 2113. Using the analog on my Wii to the 2113 upscales the video, great picture quality and I finally got the lip sync taken care of. Music sounds awesome through the Arx and it even impressed the wife. I was blown away by the multi-ch stereo mode. It gives the basement PLENTY of volume PLUS clarity which comfortably bleeds over to the ground level.

The bad; I cannot, including having called Denon, get the "handshake" to occur between HDMI components. I've done resets, handshake resets, etc.. and nothing yet. Firmware is update as well. I've read the manual and switched things from auto, to default, HDMI, etc, etc.., I've searched here but nothing is working. I really love the sound w/ the ARX setup I have but I'm hestitant to use another Denon if this one is nearly DOA. Marantz and Denon are put together by the same parent company so I'm very hesitant to pay an extra $150 for a 5007 if it is ultimately built by the same co. Besides a fan and a few extra features, i'd bank the software and even a majority of the components are very close if not the same. Camaro vs Firebird, GMC vs Chevy, Ford vs Lincoln, toyota vs Lexus, etc..

I have the Arx5 and A1b's and they work in a most excellent way for my application.
Needs:

Internet radio, pandora, etc.
Video upscaling
I'm at 95 watts/ch so I'd like to stick w/ that as a minimum
reliability
Less than $500, preferably less than $400.

Pioneer VSX-33
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Shop/Specials/Home+specials/VSX-33+REFURBISHED

Pioneer VSX-60
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Shop/Specials/Home+specials/VSX-60+-+REFURBISHED

VSX-1122-K
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Shop/Specials/Home+specials/VSX-1122-K+REFURBISHED

VSX-1020-K
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Shop/Specials/Home+specials/VSX-1020-K+REFURBISHED

but I don't have a costco membership but would it be worth it?
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1482485/pioneer-sc-1222-k-7-2-receiver-469-99-costco-ymmv

Pioneer VSX-1122-K
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882117411R

Pioneer SC-1222
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882117412R

Yahama
http://www.yamahashoponline.com/products/factory_refurbished

http://www.yamahashoponline.com/products/yamaha_clearance

I'm open to some other suggestions. Should I give the Denon another shot? I only paid $379 @ AC4less. I need some sound advised from those in the know.
post #2 of 6
I have no idea about what is going on with your AVR but I would have to think thats it's a one off problem. I am assuming that you have bypassed the AVR to prof that every thing ells is working. I would not be hesitant about replacing it with the same unit, thats what the warranty is for. It is a new unit?
As for looking for great deals incase it's a used or out of warranty, look at this internet seller http://www.accessories4less.com
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Originally Posted by Phil17108 View Post

I have no idea about what is going on with your AVR but I would have to think thats it's a one off problem. I am assuming that you have bypassed the AVR to prof that every thing ells is working. I would not be hesitant about replacing it with the same unit, thats what the warranty is for. It is a new unit?
As for looking for great deals incase it's a used or out of warranty, look at this internet seller http://www.accessories4less.com

Yep bypassed the HDMI and used analog and the sound from the Wii plays through fine w/ a little lip sync fine tuning. Used every HDMI input w/ my Mac and the sound problem is the same on all of them.

I have a week left on the "30 day return" but it has the 1 year warranty. That is where I purchased it.
post #4 of 6
Hardly makes any sense to apply your experience with one unit to an entire brand/line of AVRs. That said, have you tried replacing your HDMI cables? You also don't mention what HDMI devices you are trying to connect? Have you reviewed the Troubleshooting guide listed in post #3 of the Denon AVR-XX13 Owner's thread linked in my sig?
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Hardly makes any sense to apply your experience with one unit to an entire brand/line of AVRs. That said, have you tried replacing your HDMI cables? You also don't mention what HDMI devices you are trying to connect? Have you reviewed the Troubleshooting guide listed in post #3 of the Denon AVR-XX13 Owner's thread linked in my sig?

The 1st item I get from Denon gives me fits. My uncle LOVES pioneer and out of the box, it is plug and play w/o any problems. I'm a bit jealous that I'm having to dick w/ things back and forth.

If your Camaro SS had to continually go to the dealer for DTC, hard starts, poor fuel mileage, etc.. would you be lining up to get another when you sell or trade it or lemon it back to the dealer??

A refurb should be good as new equipment/internally. My HK was a refurb as where the Infinity dipoles I used and they performed flawless for me.

In my other thread that you responded to, I mentioned the item in question is my Mac. I should have pointed that out here.

No need to replace the cables, IMHO but I will double check it. BUT, It works when I use that same exact cable from my Mac to the TV over the last 2 years and when I go back and forth over the last week trying to trouble shoot this thing.

Yep tried #3 and tried calling Denon. Every single step has been used, multiple times and no dice.

It sounds like your a Denon die hard, which is fine. That being the case maybe you can answer this.

Denon 3311 vs the Pioneer VSX-33? I'm not concerned w/ age as much as my "needs list" above being met. Both are under $500 and are 125 and 110 watts respectively. HT specs show similar branded models to be w/in their watt claim in 2 ch and still be in the 80+ watt in multi -ch modes.

BUT does either have a cooling fan? Or can someone suggest something more appropriate. I will say the quality of the video on the 2113 is great when it upscales the analog Wii signal and the sound is solid and clear biggrin.gif

http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/DENAVR3311CI/DENON-AVR-3311CI-7.2-Channel-Network-Home-Theater-Receiver/1.html

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Shop/Specials/Home+specials/VSX-33+REFURBISHED
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SR-120 ordred. The 5007 shows 10% THD at 6 ohms. Couldn't beat the price or the 4ohm specs on the SR-120, $50 bucks cheaper and 5 year warranty NIB.
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