Originally Posted by ti-triodes
It sounds a bit harsh to me and I listen to tubes. But that means nothing to anyone else. Everyone's ears are different as well as their systems and how they interact in the room they listen in.
The last part about rooms I will wholeheartedly agree with. If you or someone else has room issues, room treatments and doing measuring to address those issues is key. Everyone's ears are different when it comes to speakers. I don't agree when it comes to a lot of solid state gear.
I also compared the 83 to my AH! Njoe Tjoeb tube CD player which is not a fair comparison.
Tubes would likely bring about distortion, and give other artifacts, so you're correct on that level.
As far as the technical side of it, there are some great threads in the Blu-Ray Player area of this forum that explain it in detail. The 83SE, 95 and 105 do sound different. I've had a chance to compare my 83 directly to both my 95 and a friends 83SE and the audio tweaked players both sound better to me through the analog outputs. And it's not subtle. You have to listen for yourself and then decide.
This would be a lovely test subject for an ABX DBT, given that the results are claimed to be more than just subtle.
But I seriously doubt that anyone would ever allow for their perceptions to be challenged on that level, even if they claimed it was "obvious". I don't know what you mean though by "technical side". Measurements? Numbers? Is there an assumption made that there must
be an audible difference?Edited by bo130 - 8/25/13 at 8:40pm