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Quality New Reciever Options / Suggestions for 2013 and Beyond

post #1 of 6
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Hello all,
I have been a long time Denon supporter, and have had Denons for about the last 20 or so years. (since the AVP-8000 days)

I am in the market to upgrade from an existing AVR-4308CI in a dedicated 5370 cu ft theater with a M&K / Miller & Kreisel 4ohm S-150 7.1 configuration. Used for Movies, Music & Gaming.

I am considering the Denon AVR-4520CI, but figured, I have not looked for other offerings in a VERY long time. (and from what I have been reading, quality seems to be going down in Denon)
  1. So, what else is worthy / quality on the market?
  2. Who is making agressive / innovative / quality moves in the market?
  3. What are some good / trustworthy sites for "reccomendations" or comparing side by features these days? Recommended picks / hot buys / most innovative awards etc. (besides this one!) ;]
  4. Is now a good time to buy or are there some new formats coming down the pipe?

Must have:
  • 4ohm campatibility
  • Auto setup (with mic) (Audyssey or comprable)
  • 7ch stereo mode
  • HD radio
  • Rich GUI
  • 6+ rear HDMI inputs
  • 4k / UHD compatibility
  • REAL Minimum 135+ watts per channel @ 8ohm (135w is a little low for that space) (not the way Pioneer & Sony and such use to measure it) ;]
  • Futureproof (firmware upgradable)
  • $1500+ budget & "shopable" (You can get a Denon AVR-4520CI $2500MSRP for around $1600)

Nice to have:
THX Ultra2
Automation support
140+ watts per channel & 8ohm (150+ would be super)
Mobile App
8+ rear HDMI inputs

Dont need:
multi zone (dedicated room)
backward compatability
wireless or built in hub (already have gigabit hub in rack)

Who has some quality opinions out there?
PS (I cannot believe I am listed as a new member even though I joined in 07) ;]
post #2 of 6
With what you want it sounds like the 4250 fits your needs.
Low post count is probably the reason for New Member other forums do the same.
Right now if I could budget it in the SC-77 from Pioneer is high on my list but my needs differ from you I don't need HD radio or Audyssey.
post #3 of 6
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Originally Posted by oztech View Post

Low post count is probably the reason for New Member other forums do the same.

Yeah, I was just being sarcastic. I have been on here reading for many years back to my Sony employment days...

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Originally Posted by oztech View Post

Right now if I could budget it in the SC-77 from Pioneer is high on my list but my needs differ from you I don't need HD radio or Audyssey.

The Pioneer does have a few of my nice to have requests and at a lower MSRP point, but I have always been leary of their old practices to falcify power ratings. (quoting peak and not RMS) I have had a few in the distant past and always ended up returning them. Do you have a current offering from Pioneer and like it enough to upgrade to this?
post #4 of 6
I currently have an Integra but my job as an installer and structural wiring affords me the opportunity to play with a lot of brands and so far I like what Pioneer has to offer as we have installed from 72 to 77 and the 77 to my ears sounds great and has plenty of power.
You can look to Home Theater Magazine and see the test bench on the SC-68 to see it not only does well with 7 channels driven but handles 4 ohm loads quite well one of my concerns as like you if it is THX Ultra 2 certified and the 77 is then I know it will do my speakers justice as it has with our clients.
post #5 of 6
Thread Starter 
Ok, so that is 2 for Pioneer Elite.

I use to like the home theater mag, just didnt know if they were still pumping out good reviews / specs.

I know these type of suggestions / recomendations are tough, but I though I would have seen a lot more fans out there for particular recievers.
post #6 of 6
I don't know if you'll find something that fits all of your criteria, but while researching for a replacement for my older Integra pre-pro, I came across the Onkyo TX-NR929. I hesitated at first because of the HDMI board problems. But short of a signed letter from Japan, I feel comfortable that the later 2013 models have rectified that according to both Onkyo and Integra. Then you might find the 929 fits the bill. But not if you insist on HD radio instead of internet forms of radio. Also at Select 2 Plus rating your cu.ft. might be at the limit of its 135 watts x 9 ch at 4 ohms. But it does have a full 11.2 ch. pre-outs if your were including another amp. My criteria is similar and I'm leaning to the 929.
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