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post #661 of 679
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Originally Posted by aaronwt View Post

I just looked at my Roamio Basic. The channels that I had in the 90's last fall when I got my Roamio Basic are now showing up as in the 70's and 80's. I'm not showing anything in the 90's any more. But I also noticed that one of my main networks, CBS is having issues. It's only showing up around 30 and the picture is breaking up. Just a few weeks ago the picture was fine. But I've always had changes in some of the channels when the foilage is gone and then when the foilage starts growing back. I might try taking it off the 3-way splitter this weekend to see if that helps any. But fortunately I don't rely on my OTA Roamio Basic for recordings. My Roamio Pro on FiOS is what I use for everything.

What is your TV fool report like?
post #662 of 679
I'm debating whether the Best Buy extended warranty would be worth it for my Roamio basic. If there's an issue and Best Buy gives me a new Tivo would the lifetime transfer without cost? Seems I've read mixed answers to this question before. I know if I upgraded to a larger hard drive that voids the warranty with Tivo and putting the original hard drive back probably won't help since Tivo knows the hard drive was changed. I'm thinking I could still get it fixed with a Best Buy warranty but if they just gave me a new box and Tivo won't transfer the lifetime then it's not worth it.

Ok, I just read on the Tivo website that the Lifetime Service transfers if the Tivo was exchanged under warranty through the retailer, but is that the normal warranty or include an extended warranty? It doesn't mention extended. What it also doesn't say is if there's a fee or not. I will try to get an answer from Tivo but wondering if anybody has had any experience exchanging their Tivo under an extended warranty.
post #663 of 679
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Originally Posted by Golfdad123 View Post

I'm debating whether the Best Buy extended warranty would be worth it for my Roamio basic.
Just my opinion as a 5 yr TiVo veteran -- an extended warranty will be money wasted.

The build quality of a TiVo is sufficient to keep them running for many years -- there is an active used TiVo market on ebay that is only possible because of the expected longevity of the boxes. The only thing that generally goes wrong with a TiVo is either the HDD dies, or more rarely the PS dies. For the previous Premier and HD models, the HDD is user replaceable/upgradable and the PS can be fixed by weaKnees.

With the Roamio Basic, servicing is even easier. The internal HDD is a drop in replacement with an AV drive up to at least 3TB -- no special pre-formatting is needed like with the HD or Premier, the Roamio will format the OEM drive. Servicing the external PS is even easier should it go bad -- buy a new equivalent wall-wart from Amazon and plug it in.
post #664 of 679
I always get the extended warranty. Either the three year from TiVo or the four year from BestBuy. Worst case, it will help with the resale value when I upgrade to a newer model. At least that has been the case for me since getting the TiVos used with the cable companies. They have typically helped my resale value and also helped sell them quicker.
post #665 of 679
Thanks for the advice. I chatted with Tivo and they said the Lifetime would transfer to a replacement box from Best Buy. I would have to fax them copies of the receipts and any documentation. If the box failed without an extended warranty I would get a replacement box through Tivo technical support and transfer the lifetime for $149.
post #666 of 679
Hey guys,
New member here at the forum. Just joined today. I was wondering if anyone could give me insight on why I am having issues when I try to upgrade my roamio (base model) to a Seagate 2TB 7200 rpm drive. After I install it, the roamio keeps power cycling. It flashes all the lights on the front for a second then turns off and starts up again. I initially thought this was the formatting process but it obviously is not. I can hear the drive spin up and down over and over. Could it be that it is a 7200 rpm and requires too much power? The drive mounts and functions perfectly both on Mac and windows computers. Any insight is greatly appreciated.
post #667 of 679
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Originally Posted by belbers1 View Post

Hey guys,
New member here at the forum. Just joined today. I was wondering if anyone could give me insight on why I am having issues when I try to upgrade my roamio (base model) to a Seagate 2TB 7200 rpm drive. After I install it, the roamio keeps power cycling. It flashes all the lights on the front for a second then turns off and starts up again. I initially thought this was the formatting process but it obviously is not. I can hear the drive spin up and down over and over. Could it be that it is a 7200 rpm and requires too much power? The drive mounts and functions perfectly both on Mac and windows computers. Any insight is greatly appreciated.
You should be using an AV drive optimized for video and continuous operation rather than a desktop HDD.
Check into the Seagate Pipeline series of AV drives for 2TB and under -- ST2000VM003 which use less than 5 watt. Seagate is releasing a new video series for 3 & 4 TB drives (ST3000VM002 & ST4000VM000) but they are considerably more expensive.

Check out these posts by gadgtfreek where he opens his Roamio Basic up and replaces the original Seagate Pipeline 500 GB drive with a WD 2TB AV drive -- lot of pictures.
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1486871/tivo-roamio-records-up-to-6-shows-simultaneously-3tb-storage-streams/100_100#post_23679040
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1486871/tivo-roamio-records-up-to-6-shows-simultaneously-3tb-storage-streams/100_100#post_23682983
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1486871/tivo-roamio-records-up-to-6-shows-simultaneously-3tb-storage-streams/100_100#post_23683103
Edited by Kelson - 4/11/14 at 7:05am
post #668 of 679
I've been debating upgrading my Roamio
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Originally Posted by belbers1 View Post

Hey guys,
New member here at the forum. Just joined today. I was wondering if anyone could give me insight on why I am having issues when I try to upgrade my roamio (base model) to a Seagate 2TB 7200 rpm drive. After I install it, the roamio keeps power cycling. It flashes all the lights on the front for a second then turns off and starts up again. I initially thought this was the formatting process but it obviously is not. I can hear the drive spin up and down over and over. Could it be that it is a 7200 rpm and requires too much power? The drive mounts and functions perfectly both on Mac and windows computers. Any insight is greatly appreciated.
I've been thinking about upgrading my hard drive and if you go to the Tivo Community forums there is a thread on upgrading a Roamio hard drive. They recommend using the 2TB or 3TB WD Green drives that Tivo uses.
post #669 of 679
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Originally Posted by Golfdad123 View Post

I've been debating upgrading my Roamio
I've been thinking about upgrading my hard drive and if you go to the Tivo Community forums there is a thread on upgrading a Roamio hard drive. They recommend using the 2TB or 3TB WD Green drives that Tivo uses.

I went with a 3 TB AV drive instead of the Green. Painless and perfect.
WD AV-GP 3TB AV Video Hard Drive: 3.5 Inch, SATA II, 64 MB Cache - WD30EURS

I know some claim that the AV is just a repackaged Green drive- but the price difference is only $10 and the AV drive does have slightly better performance.
post #670 of 679
Any word on the streaming version for the Android app? I thought it might be out by now.
post #671 of 679
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Originally Posted by calculon68 View Post

I went with a 3 TB AV drive instead of the Green. Painless and perfect.
WD AV-GP 3TB AV Video Hard Drive: 3.5 Inch, SATA II, 64 MB Cache - WD30EURS

I know some claim that the AV is just a repackaged Green drive- but the price difference is only $10 and the AV drive does have slightly better performance.
The one you got is the one they reference at TCF, actually the newer version EURX. They're not listed as Green drives but it appears they are Green like others have said. The Amazon picture doesn't show the cover but if you look at the picture on Amazon's website of the WD30EURX it actually shows an EURS model that has the GreenPower sticker on it. Did yours have the GreenPower sticker on the cover?

I will probably get the same EURS model you got. Should I be concerned about the 3TB drive running hotter than a 1 TB in the base model Roamio?
Edited by Golfdad123 - 4/11/14 at 7:58am
post #672 of 679
I don't think mine came with the lower-half green sticker. IIRC, the Roamio Plus/Pro models have a fan on the chassis, while the Base Roamio does not. But I do believe there's ample vent slots for the HDD to work without cooking. I do believe there is a diagnostic that shows HDD temp somewhere in the settings.

But as an aside, I've had HDDs in external enclosures with no ventilation / fans and they've never cooked / failed.
post #673 of 679
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Originally Posted by calculon68 View Post

I don't think mine came with the lower-half green sticker. IIRC, the Roamio Plus/Pro models have a fan on the chassis, while the Base Roamio does not. But I do believe there's ample vent slots for the HDD to work without cooking. I do believe there is a diagnostic that shows HDD temp somewhere in the settings.

But as an aside, I've had HDDs in external enclosures with no ventilation / fans and they've never cooked / failed.

The Roamio Basic has a small internal fan between the hard drive and MB. (No idea where this picture came from but I found it online.)

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post #674 of 679
The picture came from gadgtfreek, in this post on page 2 of the thread. I referenced them in my post above.

BTW, that 500GB drive that came in the Roamio Basic is a Seagate Pipeline
post #675 of 679
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Originally Posted by Kelson View Post

The picture came from gadgtfreek, in this post on page 2 of the thread. I referenced them in my post above.

BTW, that 500GB drive that came in the Roamio Basic is a Seagate Pipeline

That's funny biggrin.gif. I found that with a google search. I had no idea it even came from AVS. I just downloaded the pic and uploaded it in the post.
post #676 of 679

Alright, thanks. I had figured the power supply would be able to handle it but I guess it won't. For the time being I think I am going to stick with the 500 GB and see how much space I actually use, since I generally delete shows immediately after watching.

post #677 of 679
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Originally Posted by belbers1 View Post

Alright, thanks. I had figured the power supply would be able to handle it but I guess it won't. For the time being I think I am going to stick with the 500 GB and see how much space I actually use, since I generally delete shows immediately after watching.
There is always the option of plugging in a 1TB DVR Expander. That way you don't have to open the case and void the warranty -- oh wait, you already did that.

I have a 500GB expander plugged into mine for 1GB total. I have 30+ active season passes and collect about 14 of them because we don't have time to watch them now. 10 of those collected shows are off-loaded from the TiVo to my server and the rest stay on the TiVo. Once we watch something it gets deleted. Given all that, I watch how much space is being used and I have never broken 40%. The closest we came to 40% full was during the Olympics where my daughter set a season pass to record everything during the week and scan through it during the weekend.

You might find the 500GB drive is completely adequate. But as long as you have it networked, load kmttg on your PC and you can off-load shows to other HDD's then send them back to the TiVo when you want to play them.
post #678 of 679
Has anybody here ditched their Comcast X1 STB for a TiVo? If so, how has your transition been?
post #679 of 679
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Originally Posted by Kelson View Post

There is always the option of plugging in a 1TB DVR Expander. That way you don't have to open the case and void the warranty -- oh wait, you already did that.

I have a 500GB expander plugged into mine for 1GB total. I have 30+ active season passes and collect about 14 of them because we don't have time to watch them now. 10 of those collected shows are off-loaded from the TiVo to my server and the rest stay on the TiVo. Once we watch something it gets deleted. Given all that, I watch how much space is being used and I have never broken 40%. The closest we came to 40% full was during the Olympics where my daughter set a season pass to record everything during the week and scan through it during the weekend.

You might find the 500GB drive is completely adequate. But as long as you have it networked, load kmttg on your PC and you can off-load shows to other HDD's then send them back to the TiVo when you want to play them.

The only bad thing about the expander is that it creates two points of failure. And unfortunately with TiVos(unlike most cable company DVRs) if either of the drives have issue, you will lose all recordings on both drives since they are married.
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