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post #31 of 89
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Auh heck bass I’m getting to old for that. Seriously though this 12” SDX is about as heavy as I want to go. Everything landed today and this 12” SDX is one very serious 12”. I just weighed it and it comes in a 40 lbs. A perspective on that would be one of my 18" mae-x's I have comes in at 50 lbs. So yeah it’s a 12” but it’s one high excursion heavy duty 12”. Here take a look in the old farm house. Hey good to see you bass! cool.gif




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Edited by steve nn - 9/3/13 at 10:21pm
post #32 of 89
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One of those days.. not really any headway except a trip to HD to pick up a trim-bit and 1 1/4” course wood screws. I’m going to order some cherry veneer after this post, so I should be sitting good to start the build tomorrow morning. smile.gif
post #33 of 89
dang that 12 is beastly!
post #34 of 89
Wow yeah. Holy crap.

I might have to take some more looks at the 12. Btw, is this the new SDX? I know there is supposed to be a new SDX15. Not sure if that ever came out.
post #35 of 89
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dang that 12 is beastly!

Yeah I think so too! If I’m remembering correctly this will be my first 12” build but I have taken plenty of 12”s out of bought subs. I’m not sure what the Ultra 12" weighed but this (seems) as heavy or a little more?? Anyway I don’t know what I was expecting, but I admittedly thought the SDX wouldn’t come in 10 lbs lighter than the 18” mae-x that’s for sure! Maybe it’s things seem heavier since I’m older? smile.gif It is nice eye candy though.

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Wow yeah. Holy crap.

I might have to take some more looks at the 12. Btw, is this the new SDX? I know there is supposed to be a new SDX15. Not sure if that ever came out.

This is the new 12” Scott. As far as the new 15”s go I dunno? They have been working on it for quite some time. It looked like they had it but then something didn’t work out? Last I herd it was supposed to come in around 34xm posted in their thread. The older one I have.. I have had no issues with what so ever although a few had excursion issues around 20mm I believe. So I’m sure they’re making sure all is well before the new 15” is released. It’s been on the drawing board/proto since 07 though.
Edited by steve nn - 9/5/13 at 5:16am
post #36 of 89
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Wow yeah. Holy crap.

I might have to take some more looks at the 12. Btw, is this the new SDX? I know there is supposed to be a new SDX15. Not sure if that ever came out.

Without going into detail I'm not confident that the SDX15 Mk II will see the light of day. The prototype built didn't have what we wanted and the promised re-design and prototype are still in promise land.
post #37 of 89
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Without going into detail I'm not confident that the SDX15 Mk II will see the light of day. The prototype built didn't have what we wanted and the promised re-design and prototype are still in promise land.


That’s to bad Bob, I’m truly sorry to hear that.. I’m glad I got in on the 15” SDX when I did then but I’m sorry for you. I' wouldn’t doubt you’re working on something else though. smile.gif

The enclosure I’m going to start building today is going to come in at 19H X 17W X 19”D. Being I want the driver and PR’s close to flush, I’m going 1.25” on the L, R and the baffle. The rest of the enclosure will come in at 3/4 due to wanting to keep the weight at a minimum. The enclosure will have the terminals on the back for the amp. The leads inside the enclosure will be a extra 10-12” long for ease of pulling the driver. I absolutely hate short leads. Since I want to hide the edges of the ply, and don’t want to employ trim or band for my own reasons, I’m going with veneer. I just thought of another way to hide the edges but the veneer is ordered, o-well.. still wouldn’t come out as good as cherry veneer anyway. I also have a few other ideas that are going to have to evolve as I build and try them out.
post #38 of 89
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Well I got a little done today. I would think it’ll be finished tomorrow except for the veneer. The veneer wont get here until next Wed, so that’s a bummer. Figured three days but no not to be. Anyway building a sub this size seems really weird, I’m so used to larger enclosures.




post #39 of 89
You know what I always thought would be an interesting decor on a sub- some of the kitchen laminates, like the kind you find on kitchen counters. There is a huge variety of them and it is a very durable finish and also easy to clean. They are easy to work with as well. Some of these could make a sub look pretty slick and get away from the usual wood veneers:
post #40 of 89

Re: CSS 12

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You know what I always thought would be an interesting decor on a sub- some of the kitchen laminates, like the kind you find on kitchen counters. There is a huge variety of them and it is a very durable finish and also easy to clean. They are easy to work with as well. Some of these could make a sub look pretty slick and get away from the usual wood veneers:[IMG ALT=""]http://www.avsforum.com/content/type/61/id/271335/width/350/height/700[/IMG]

Plastic wood on my sub instead of real wood ... nope.as for cleaning if you put the right products on your sub it will stay nicely clean as long as you dust weekly
post #41 of 89
I wouldn't go with a wood finish at all, I would go with a solid color or something cool looking. I agree that a real wood veneer would be better than a fake veneer.
post #42 of 89
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You know what I always thought would be an interesting decor on a sub- some of the kitchen laminates, like the kind you find on kitchen counters. There is a huge variety of them and it is a very durable finish and also easy to clean. They are easy to work with as well. Some of these could make a sub look pretty slick and get away from the usual wood veneers:

Yeah they have some pretty good looking options. We see a little of it used every now and then along with granite or the like for the top. If I were looking for the black piano-gloss look, I might take a look at it considering even the easy piano-gloss method could be considered a bit of a challenge by most. I don’t know if you have noticed but wood veneer as a option is being scaled back to a degree in ID options and not offered at all by many. I could go black on this sub no problem but I’m kind of looking for something that looks a little like a piece of furniture and of course liking to work with wood to a degree. Even with veneering I could have finished this sub in practically in a long day if I had my jig in order. I must have spent an extra three hours messing around that could have been spent building. All I need is two wing nuts and screws to make a decent adjustable jig for the future, I just need to take the time. Anyway as far as esthetics go it all depends on a guys capability, choice, $$ that he wants to put towards it and time. It’s very hard for most of us to get the B&M or ID look but it’s fun to try by some.
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Shady>I wouldn't go with a wood finish at all, I would go with a solid color or something cool looking. I agree that a real wood veneer would be better than a fake veneer.

LOL.. That’s totally your call in DIY. No one to tell you what you should like or a single option or two in what you can go with. With some in DIY it’s all about $$ regardless how much they have. $20 can be a very big deal in what finish he or she decides on. I’ve seen some very good looking builds employing the fake veneer (would like to try it some time) but never have yet.
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chal> Plastic wood on my sub instead of real wood ... nope.as for cleaning if you put the right products on your sub it will stay nicely clean as long as you dust weekly

After being married for 25 years and then divorcing, a new duster would be nice.wink.gif Maybe I ought to start rugging, but then I would have to vacume my sub.smile.gif

In the past I have always used MDF to build a sub and this causes a sub to get very heavy fast, especially when a guy double layers! So at 80-100 lbs a sheet of MDF depending on quality, it does get heavy. This sub is going to be much lighter than anticipated with the 3/4 oak ply even though three walls will be double layered with the 1/2 oak ply. I still need to ad a little more bracing and outside layer, but regardless of driver weight and more to do to the enclosure, this is going to turn out to be a light sub imo. If I added the 20 pound SPA it would come in heavier alright but still be manageable as subs go, especially since the size has been cut down with utilizing PR’s.
Edited by steve nn - 9/6/13 at 5:10am
post #43 of 89
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Didn’t get much done yesterday except cutting the outside layer and routering out the PR and driver opening surrounds. Due to a move I needed to get my reg speakers hooked back up and calibrated along with a few errands. Of course after that I had to kick back and skip through PEARLE HARBOR rolleyes.gif
post #44 of 89
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Since the sub is going into a bedroom, one thing you might do to assist it is use bass shakers.. on your bed. That will bring a greater cinematic depth to movies and may also come in handy as a 'marital aid'.

LOL... maybe he could find one of those beds you put a quarter in? tongue.gif

Nice build.... can't wait to see the next set of pics!
Edited by pdxrealtor - 9/7/13 at 9:09pm
post #45 of 89
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LOL... maybe he could find one of those beds you put a quarter in? tongue.gif

Nice build.... can't wait to see the next set of pics!

You mean your bed doesn’t have the quarter thing going on? Hu!.. that’s odd. I thought it was a prerequisite for 50 and over DIY bass heads, it could be forty though. redface.gif

I had a little issue come up today dangit! When I was routering with a trim bit I got a shaving in my eye that just won’t quit! Yeah I had glasses on but not the usual enclosed glasses due to it was such a little job. That’s all it took, so I now type this looking like Jack Sparrow with a patch over my eye. Actually he looks much better due to mine is a quick DIY gauze and masking tape approach.wink.gif Thing is, although my eye cant open, it still rolls as my eyes turn thus causing pain. I tell yuh! The things we do for a sub!
post #46 of 89
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Well I worked a few hours today. No hurry since the veneer wont be here until Wednesday. This is screw and glue do to all my clamps are at another location.


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post #47 of 89
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You mean your bed doesn’t have the quarter thing going on? Hu!.. that’s odd. I thought it was a prerequisite for 50 and over DIY bass heads, it could be forty though. redface.gif

I had a little issue come up today dangit! When I was routering with a trim bit I got a shaving in my eye that just won’t quit! Yeah I had glasses on but not the usual enclosed glasses due to it was such a little job. That’s all it took, so I now type this looking like Jack Sparrow with a patch over my eye. Actually he looks much better due to mine is a quick DIY gauze and masking tape approach.wink.gif Thing is, although my eye cant open, it still rolls as my eyes turn thus causing pain. I tell yuh! The things we do for a sub!

I'm only 36. I need no quarters! tongue.gif

Hope your eye gets better. What are the odds with safety glasses on. Geeze
post #48 of 89
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I'm only 36. I need no quarters! tongue.gif

Hope your eye gets better. What are the odds with safety glasses on. Geeze


Lol.. Ok you got me. tongue.gif Yeah the eye is fine, it worked it’s way out and the patch is off. Thanks!
post #49 of 89
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My veneer is due to land tomorrow and I’m wondering if anyone might know of a program out there that I can model the different choices in stain schemes. It wouldn’t have to be precise, maybe just a general idea in different shades/colors a guy faces when incorporating different shades/colors with a enclosure. I think I have it figured out, but it sure would be helpful if I could actually look at some semblance of it before committing or buying another piece of finish option. Everything I run across in Google isn’t a help at all, I keep running into parameter calculators. I have been thinking of a solid color top with the sides being one shade and the front another. This might be to busy though, and maybe should go with the top the same as the front? Heck maybe something totally different after playing with it. Anyway any leads out there sure would be appreciated.
post #50 of 89
Maybe a photoshop type program?
post #51 of 89
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Maybe a photoshop type program?

Thanks! I checked it out and you might be on to something but I'll have to investigate more. I’m hopping for so mething really functional and of course easy. smile.gif
post #52 of 89
Lookin good Steve! After you get board with it, send it my way smile.gif
post #53 of 89
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Lookin good Steve! After you get board with it, send it my way smile.gif


Hey bass! great to see you and thanks! It would be fun to ship something out for you to check out in all seriousness. I can understand the bored descriptive though, but it’s more of a explore and learn kind of thing. This is a PR build design that I haven't tried yet and many others.. my aim is to change that on my part. If this sub has the extension, spl and SQ that I hope it will in such a small enclosure, I can see it being a good option for those with certain criteria's. (If I’m not mistaken, I think it was Jeff Bagby who created this design, you will see his name over at Data amongst other places). Actually it would be fun to try this driver out in a couple different alignments, that’s one of the things we can do in DIY at such a minimal cost that makes DIY so attractive to some.

So lets see, are you getting ready to start/ Oh hold it! That’s right, if I remember correctly you have tried DIY once and built a sub, I forgot about that. You owe me a pic thinking about it. cool.gifsmile.gif
Edited by steve nn - 9/11/13 at 5:31am
post #54 of 89
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Well my veneer came in and it looks good, I don’t see any issues. The issue I do have though is I’m out of glue, I thought that was covered.. Dang! I was just at HD yesterday too! Oh well..
post #55 of 89
Any pics?

Living in Astoria has its pluses, but quick trips to Home Depot Im guessing isnt one of them.
post #56 of 89
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Any pics?

Living in Astoria has its pluses, but quick trips to Home Depot Im guessing isnt one of them.

No it’s not, but I really like being back here though. HD is only like 15 minutes away, so it’s not like a trip or anything. I guess it’s something like 18-20 cruse ships are due here this year though. Summer is also over, so the tourist traffic will slow down. Quick question I wanted to ask your thread.. Do you live in the Portland area also?

Oh! few more pics to follow latter. I’m killing time while glue drys. How about a few pics yourself? smile.gif
post #57 of 89
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Originally Posted by steve nn View Post

You mean your bed doesn’t have the quarter thing going on? Hu!.. that’s odd. I thought it was a prerequisite for 50 and over DIY bass heads, it could be forty though. redface.gif

I had a little issue come up today dangit! When I was routering with a trim bit I got a shaving in my eye that just won’t quit! Yeah I had glasses on but not the usual enclosed glasses due to it was such a little job. That’s all it took, so I now type this looking like Jack Sparrow with a patch over my eye. Actually he looks much better due to mine is a quick DIY gauze and masking tape approach.wink.gif Thing is, although my eye cant open, it still rolls as my eyes turn thus causing pain. I tell yuh! The things we do for a sub!

Oh oowwww!!! eek.gif

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Lol.. Ok you got me. tongue.gif Yeah the eye is fine, it worked it’s way out and the patch is off. Thanks!

Oh good. smile.gif

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No it’s not, but I really like being back here though. HD is only like 15 minutes away, so it’s not like a trip or anything. I guess it’s something like 18-20 cruse ships are due here this year though. Summer is also over, so the tourist traffic will slow down. Quick question I wanted to ask your thread.. Do you live in the Portland area also?

Oh! few more pics to follow latter. I’m killing time while glue drys. How about a few pics yourself? smile.gif

The build is looking and shaping up great, Steve! Can't wait to see your master veneer work when it's all done.
post #58 of 89
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HeHe I'll be back, glue.. gotta go wink.gif
post #59 of 89
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No it’s not, but I really like being back here though. HD is only like 15 minutes away, so it’s not like a trip or anything. I guess it’s something like 18-20 cruse ships are due here this year though. Summer is also over, so the tourist traffic will slow down. Quick question I wanted to ask your thread.. Do you live in the Portland area also?

Oh! few more pics to follow latter. I’m killing time while glue drys. How about a few pics yourself? smile.gif

Good progress there Steve. I wish I could move that fast with a sub project. It took me 8 months to build the boxes for my 2 18s.

The HD in Astoria is pretty nice. I'm out in Astoria every weekend during the month of Auguast, every year. Gotta love that Bouy 10 fishery.

On another note, if you ever decide to let go of the SDX 15s give me a holler. I lost hopes of the SDX15 MKII coming to life. The awsome Bose system that came with installed and pre-wired in my new house is craptacular, I'll be looking to switch that system out sometime in the near future.
post #60 of 89
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Hey guys Thanks for stopping by. I have a few things going now but I’ll be sure to get back. I did have a chance to get a few things done though, so I’ll post a few pics. Now I’m going to go lighter stain on the sides and darker on the front. Now I can go darker on top also or gloss black. Any recommendations? I think I would like it both ways and am kind of leaning with the gloss black top? I did try to find some shady approved formica though, but I’m not buying a sheet for such a little job. smile.gif Anyway don't be to hard on me..







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