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OTA TV newb...need help with antenna selection Location: Pigeon/Caseville MI 48755

post #1 of 10
Thread Starter 
Well as stated by the title i am a total OTA TV newb and need some advice and direction as to which outdoor antenna would be satisfactory to use at my home. Ive been doing research and have looked at the clearstream 4, antennas direct 91xg, as well as the winegard hd-9032. But im still unsure and thats why i came here. The antenna will be roughly 25 to 30 feet off the ground and has a fair amount of trees in front of it. Ive decide on a UHF antenna only because the VHF stations in my area are all the same networks as the UHF one i can receive. I thought about a pre-amp but may see what i can tune in "barefoot". I dont know if it matters but the tv is a vizio with a built in reciever

Here is some info on my location via TVfool.com
http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=90

I appreciate all responses

Thanks,
Quinn
Edited by dunnroadmafia - 8/28/13 at 5:20pm
post #2 of 10
Thread Starter 
Ahh i cant believe i missed the location requirement in the thread title damn, my location is in Caseville/Pigeon Mi in the lower peninsula in the "thumb" zip code is 48755.



The correct link
http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=29&q=id%3d46aef5fb0ec16c
post #3 of 10
You need a VHF/UHF combo because and ABC is a VHF channel.

It will have to be a decent size antenna, installed outdoors, with all likelyhood needing a pre-amp. When I see reception issues like yours, I caution people to buy an antenna that you can easily return if it does not give good reults, like Radio Shack.

Good news is all of your stations pretty much come from the same location, from the SW. So you don't need a rotor.
post #4 of 10
Thread Starter 
I did notice that ABC was VHF and decide just go with a UHF antenna, because the other two VHF stations are just the same networks as all the available UHF in my area. I can do without ABC so thats why i post UHF only antennas. Is there any brand or model anyone would recommend?
post #5 of 10
Not much price difference between a UHF and a combo antenna. If you put up a UHF only antenna, and if you want to watch something on ABC, you might be kicking yourself for not putting up combo.
post #6 of 10
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Originally Posted by mikepier View Post

Not much price difference between a UHF and a combo antenna. If you put up a UHF only antenna, and if you want to watch something on ABC, you might be kicking yourself for not putting up combo.

Do the Channel Master 4228hd antennas still have some gain on high VHF, like the old 4228 did? He might get by with that.
post #7 of 10
I think I answered my question with a Google search. It appears they bungled the feed lines on the HD version according to this link.
http://www.hdtvprimer.com/ANTENNAS/TemporaryPage.html
Now I remember all the threads about hacking the new ones to make them work better.
Edited by mirayge - 8/29/13 at 8:18pm
post #8 of 10
Thread Starter 
According to the link you posted mirayge, it seems as thought the 4228D is not the well thought out or constructed. What other possibilities are out there for antennas. Also just out of curiostiy would my location be considered a "fringe" location?
post #9 of 10
Yes, I would call that fringe. Especialy if you want Fox which is over 60 miles away. Almost all your channels are 2edge (multipath) and weak, except PBS. That link I posted has some other antennas reviewed for performance farther down, but it is over three years old. I would ask in the antennas and related hardware sticky. Those guys do computer modeling and real world performance tests. Digitalhome.ca has a real good antenna forum too. I'm not saying the 4228hd wouldn't work for you, but for $110 and twice the size of a 4bay you would expect it to be almost twice as sensitive.
post #10 of 10
I've lived as close as Holly, MI for many years, so I have some knowledge of the area. I'd highly recommend getting at combo VHF/UHF antenna as well. One thing that you may not be aware of is WBKB (11.1, 11.2 and 11.3) from Alpena carries ABC and Fox programming as SD subchannels. CBS from that station is HD. Thus, you have a Fox alternative if WSMH is too weak to receive. WBKB is one of your stronger signals. Likewise, WJRT (12.1, 12.2 and 12.3) from Flint carries ABC in HD as well as a weather channel as a subchannel. Being in a rather flat area where you are located is helpful, but you are going to have to go for some pretty big hardware for successful reception.

However, if you want WBKB, you'll have to invest in a rotor, which I would install anyway. If you're on the roof, you might as well do it all at once.
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