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post #31 of 125
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I actually was curious if any stats / weapon unlocks would carry over from the beta to BF4. Does anybody know.
They don't. One of the reasons I stopped playing the Beta.
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If you *really* want to get in people's faces and have everyone just plain hate you on the server -- put your knife key on your thumb to minimize knife reaction time. Milliseconds matter for this weapon.
I don't even use the knife anymore unless I'm knifing a camper or I have a medic as back-up. The knifing animation takes so long that it's more of a detriment than anything else since you're so open to fire. eek.gif
post #32 of 125
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They don't. One of the reasons I stopped playing the Beta.
I don't even use the knife anymore unless I'm knifing a camper or I have a medic as back-up. The knifing animation takes so long that it's more of a detriment than anything else since you're so open to fire. eek.gif

That stinks that they gimped it. :-(

Agreed it is the perfect payback for campers! cool.gif
post #33 of 125
If I have heard correctly though, a knifed enemy cannot be revived.
post #34 of 125
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That stinks that they gimped it. :-(
I was talking about in BF3. lol I liked it in BC2 where you could just swipe at people and kill them.
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If I have heard correctly though, a knifed enemy cannot be revived.
I read the same thing. It'll give us an incentive to use it at least.
post #35 of 125
I'm getting better every day.

Today I realized I didn't have to use my mouse's software to mimic mouse buttons as keystrokes. I figured out that BF4 can distinguish the differences between different scroll wheel movements. Things are much better for me tonight. No 'console command' accidental entry.

I put reload to the keyboard, R, and now have toggle primary/pistol, select gadget 1, select gadget 2, crouch/prone, and throw grenade on my mouse. So 5 different uses besides the main zoom / aim and fire buttons. I do wish I could have one more button on it for spotting, as spotting is still awkward for me with having it as the Q button.

I am pretty bad in tanks. Really bad in helicopters. And I don't even try jets yet.

I do wonder how good I would be in the Attack heli if I plugged in my usb xbox 360 controller. I'll have to try that soon on my tv if I can figure out what I need to do to make that work. I was thrown through a loop when I realized I had to use DVI to my monitor once I hooked up my graphics card. I figured hdmi would have worked.

I'm sure I will never stop learning how to get everything working properly.

I'm probably just lucky I built my pc and it happens to work while playing Battlefield.
post #36 of 125
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HDMI should have worked. Sounds silly, but make sure to select the HDMI input on your monitor.

And all you have to do is plug in the 360 controller to your PC. You can get drivers here. Microsoft's made it very easy to use the 360 controller on PC, and it's what many of us use. I don't use it in BF3 to fly though, but that's because I find switching from keyboard to controller sort of awkward. I do use the mic input on it for voice chat.
post #37 of 125
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Originally Posted by mphfrom77 View Post

I'm getting better every day.

Today I realized I didn't have to use my mouse's software to mimic mouse buttons as keystrokes. I figured out that BF4 can distinguish the differences between different scroll wheel movements. Things are much better for me tonight. No 'console command' accidental entry.

I put reload to the keyboard, R, and now have toggle primary/pistol, select gadget 1, select gadget 2, crouch/prone, and throw grenade on my mouse. So 5 different uses besides the main zoom / aim and fire buttons. I do wish I could have one more button on it for spotting, as spotting is still awkward for me with having it as the Q button.

I am pretty bad in tanks. Really bad in helicopters. And I don't even try jets yet.

I do wonder how good I would be in the Attack heli if I plugged in my usb xbox 360 controller. I'll have to try that soon on my tv if I can figure out what I need to do to make that work. I was thrown through a loop when I realized I had to use DVI to my monitor once I hooked up my graphics card. I figured hdmi would have worked.

I'm sure I will never stop learning how to get everything working properly.

I'm probably just lucky I built my pc and it happens to work while playing Battlefield.


For spotting I recommend using your left ring finger. Slide up from A, tag the enemy with Q, slide back down to A.

Vehicles are initially hard so don't worry about them too much.

Choppers are hard as hell initially to control. You will eventually want to a get a joystick that has a twist. Works great for jets / planes too.

One of the things that makes tanks hard to control is that they have an independent barrel aim from the tank chassis! Keyboard for the chassis, mouse for the barrel is decent. The harder part is knowing the angle to aim the barrel. The hardcore guys will try to find an empty server with their favorite map and "practicing aiming" so they can put the mortar shells on a dime.

Just keep practicing -- as long as you are having fun its all good!

Putting R for reload is perfect! Sounds like you are starting to get the hang of optimizing your layout! Great to see!
post #38 of 125
To take a screen capture of in game, just a pic, do I need special software or can windows or something basic capture a picture for me?
post #39 of 125
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Originally Posted by mphfrom77 View Post

To take a screen capture of in game, just a pic, do I need special software or can windows or something basic capture a picture for me?

Just press Alt and PrintScreen to copy the current framebuffer to the clipboard.
When you Alt-Tab out I usually run mspaint and press Ctrl-V to paste the clipboard into a new graphic.
Save the graphic as a .bmp or .png (lossless).

Most gamers use FRAPS since it can record both audio + video along with taking screenshots AND it shows your current average framerate in the corner of the screen (you can customize which corner).
http://www.fraps.com/

Edit: Ctrl-V grammar, paste is Ctrl-V.
Edited by _Michaelangelo_ - 10/11/13 at 11:50am
post #40 of 125
I believe you would ctrl-v in paint. You are pasting the clipboard, not copying to it.
post #41 of 125
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I believe you would ctrl-v in paint. You are pasting the clipboard, not copying to it.

Thx for the catch krimson! Too little sleep today :-)

Updating the original post.
post #42 of 125
So yeah, I made a player emblem by basically mimicking the AVS logo. You can see it here at my BF4 beta player page...http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/soldier/mphfrom77/stats/362598461/pc/

The cool thing, is that your emblem shows up on the sides of your vehicles and your guns. I took a screen shot for an example. I wonder how many times I will get killed checking out peoples' emblems, lol.


post #43 of 125
Ditto on using the joystick for heli's. Worked great for bf2. Also, I didn't see it mentioned but I use a couple of my mouse buttons (the buttons on the left side toward the bottom) to change the sensitivity between fast movement for gunfights/tanks and slow movement for sniping. It's not actually movement but more of the sensitivity of the mouse. Hope that makes sense.

tum
post #44 of 125
I did end up plugging in my usb 360 controller, and it honestly went from night to day with heli gameplay for me. I can hold my own in a chopper on pc, and that is good enough for me for the time being. I still use the mouse k/b for the gunner.

What types of flight stick / joy stick would you guys recommend. I would maybe consider them if they would be even better. Plus I have never been able to fly jets with a 360 controller. I have no clue what is out there, or where to start looking to see if I might be interested (other than google...lol...just seeing if you guys had suggestions or if there were any mainstream options that many people use that I may not realize while doing my own research).

Also, I was starting to get to the point of looking for a way to record my gameplay, but Nvidia apparently announced that their official beta for ShadowPlay will release on October 28th. So I am hoping that works well and that is all I need.
post #45 of 125
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post #46 of 125
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Originally Posted by mphfrom77 View Post

So yeah, I made a player emblem by basically mimicking the AVS logo. You can see it here at my BF4 beta player page...

Nice job! Logo looks sweet !
post #47 of 125
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Also, I was starting to get to the point of looking for a way to record my gameplay, but Nvidia apparently announced that their official beta for ShadowPlay will release on October 28th. So I am hoping that works well and that is all I need.

FRAPS + SSD = recording heaven. :-)
i.e.
FRAPS = http://www.fraps.com/
SSD = Samsung 840 PRO.
post #48 of 125
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You have space on your SSD for that? O_O

I have BF3 installed on my SSD (Samsung 830), but I record to my hard drive (WD Black). There's no performance penalty. Before I got my SSD a while back, I used to record to another WD Black via a USB 3.0 external drive. That worked well also.
post #49 of 125
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You have space on your SSD for that? O_O

I have 16 GB of RAM on my gaming Win 7 Pro rig. Here is what I do to instantly get 32 GB of free space on my SSD ...

I turn off that stupid hibernation (which wastes 16 GB of hard drive space, I leave my machine on 100% of the time; the odd time I need to power off it boots in 10 seconds.)
Start Menu -> Right-Click Computer -> Properties -> Advanced System Settings -> Settings (Performance) ->
(or: Windows-R, sysdm.cpl)
Advanced Tab -> Change -> Uncheck Automatically manage -> No paging file -> Set -> OK -> Restart your computer


I turn off that stupid page file (which also wastes 16 GB of hard drive space)
Start Menu -> All Programs -> Accessories -> Right-Click the cmd Icon -> Run as Administrator -> powercfg -h off -> exit

Note: Some lazy/noob programmers don't know how to write software that works correctly without a pagefile. If your program crashes, put a minimal 1 GB pagefile on your slow hard drive. e.g. Photoshop back in the day was NOT written properly.

For more info the on pagefile.sys see:
http://www.tweakhound.com/2011/10/10/the-windows-7-pagefile-and-running-without-one/


Edit: Grammar, added note about pagefile.sys
Edited by _Michaelangelo_ - 10/25/13 at 4:14pm
post #50 of 125
LevelCap's BF4 gaming PC:
post #51 of 125
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After the Nvidia/Origin PC fiasco I'd never recommend that company again.
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Originally Posted by _Michaelangelo_ View Post

I have 16 GB of RAM on my gaming Win 7 Pro rig. Here is what I do to instantly get 32 GB of free space on my SSD ...
Yep. I know about those tricks (you actually have the instructions switched lol). I turned hibernation off but I leave the pagefile on as I've noticed...undesirable behavior if I drop it to anything less than 4GB. This is one of those "your mileage may vary" scenarios. But I have a 256GB SSD, so I don't have any issues with space so I can leave the pagefile as-is without any worry.

I record BF3 (and soon BF4) footage at 60fps@1080p. A two-hour gaming session is over 500GB of uncompressed video. That's why i was surprised wen you said you record to your SSD. But as I said, there's no performance hit when recording to a hard drive, so it doesn't bother me.

Speaking of BF3...after two years and with BF4 about to be released, you can still be surprised by odd glitches. This happened yesterday, and I don't think any of us had ever seen anything like it before. He couldn't hit us, and we couldn't hit him:
post #52 of 125
Promoted!!!!

What was the nvidia/origin fiasco?
post #53 of 125
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Here's a good write-up on it.

I guess you could blame Nvidia as well, but the way Origin PC did things just really rubbed me the wrong way. When Origin PC first made the announcement, other tech sites were questioning it as well as it just seemed...odd...
post #54 of 125
Preloading BF4 now from Green Man Gaming for $48.

Does anybody know the best place to get Premium?

post #55 of 125
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Originally Posted by moob View Post

HDMI should have worked. Sounds silly, but make sure to select the HDMI input on your monitor.

And all you have to do is plug in the 360 controller to your PC. You can get drivers here. Microsoft's made it very easy to use the 360 controller on PC, and it's what many of us use. I don't use it in BF3 to fly though, but that's because I find switching from keyboard to controller sort of awkward. I do use the mic input on it for voice chat.

I think with my monitor being a 144Hz monitor that HDMI won't work maybe? Or rather anything over 60Hz might require DVI. IDK. I've just been using DVI for my monitor, but I assume HDMI would work fine for my Plasma TV, which I haven't tried yet. I'll put this up for a little bit of a reference...http://forums.evga.com/FindPost/2037919
I'm all preloaded ready to go! Just need Premium I guess.


I have been just been using my 360 controller for piloting the heli's only. It's awkward going back and forth. If anyone has any suggestions for a flight stick, I will probably look into those at some point, just to see what's out there even if I decide not to get one.

One thing I am confused about is how to do the chat thing. I just don't know what I need to do to chat in BF3 that is. But for Bf4 is this going to be different? I remember hearing people talk in the Beta, so they will have chat built into the game?
Someone over at Overclock.net put a link for a download for the Nvidia drivers 331.65 I think it is. I believe this driver allows ShadowPlay. I haven't downloaded it yet. With me being new to pc's, I didn't know if there would a chance of getting any type harmful thing by downloading something from a stranger like that. IDK what do you guys think?http://www.overclock.net/t/1403553/nvidia-shadowplay-discussion-thread-beta-starts-october-28/350_50#post_21067615
With BF4 coming out I had thought it might be detrimental for me to dive to deep into pc play with Bf3's guns here the last couple of weeks. I was mainly concentrating on vehicles. But I couldn't stop myself from doing some gunplay, and frankly I am glad I did.

I've racked up over 2000 kills now, and often I can finish pretty high up on the board in all types of matches.

It's been awkward using a k/b mouse setup, and it still is at times, but I have been getting better.

But I had probably the most epic game on Metro the other day IMO. And I think it was the match that put me up over 100k kills total for BF3.

It was a standard 100% ticket round, in a mixed map Conquest server. I think I initially ran in with my Assault Class from the RU outside spawn , but once we took B, I decided to go straight at the enemy with the Support Class and my newly acquired M240B lmg. The most epic part really was at the side stairs. Their team had a pretty good push and were all over the side stairs. I threw a couple of grenades and charged out of the locker room onto them. Felt like I single handily just killed everyone on the stairs and pushed them back to C flag damn near. And I didn't die when I made that side stairs push. That was the most epic part. Felt like I mowed down 10 guys all at once. I really have no idea, it was chaos. For that round I went 46-4 and got the most kills for the match. I was killing everything I shot at. I would have had more, but I tracked down a couple guys that escaped through, and was away from the action for a while doing that each time, on my own / my team had not clue, btw. But between 98,000 kills in BF3 on console and 2,000 on PC, that was probably the best round of standard 100% tickets of Conquest on Metro I have had to date. So I was and still am pretty happy about it. It was like I couldn't miss. I was afraid people were going to accuse me of cheating or something...http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/battlereport/show/1/71037383/362598461/

I still have very bad games. But most games, I'm fairly satisfied with my performance.
I don't think I have added any of you guys. Send me a friend request or something...http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/user/mphfrom77/
Edited by mphfrom77 - 10/27/13 at 1:48am
post #56 of 125
for some unknown reason, I just paid $70 for bf4 for pc. Primarily played 360 version of bf3 due to the incredibly slow loading times of bf3 pc. Time is always at a premium for me so even waiting 5 minutes to get in the game compared to about 1 minute for 360 was reason enough to focus on the 360 version. Perhaps it was due to my slow isp at the time. anyhow, looking forward to the bf4 pc visuals. nick for pc is tumult99

tum
post #57 of 125
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I have been just been using my 360 controller for piloting the heli's only. It's awkward going back and forth. If anyone has any suggestions for a flight stick, I will probably look into those at some point, just to see what's out there even if I decide not to get one.

One thing I am confused about is how to do the chat thing. I just don't know what I need to do to chat in BF3 that is. But for Bf4 is this going to be different? I remember hearing people talk in the Beta, so they will have chat built into the game?
Someone over at Overclock.net put a link for a download for the Nvidia drivers 331.65 I think it is. I believe this driver allows ShadowPlay. I haven't downloaded it yet. With me being new to pc's, I didn't know if there would a chance of getting any type harmful thing by downloading something from a stranger like that. IDK what do you guys think?http://www.overclock.net/t/1403553/nvidia-shadowplay-discussion-thread-beta-starts-october-28/350_50#post_21067615
With BF4 coming out I had thought it might be detrimental for me to dive to deep into pc play with Bf3's guns here the last couple of weeks. I was mainly concentrating on vehicles. But I couldn't stop myself from doing some gunplay, and frankly I am glad I did.

I've racked up over 2000 kills now, and often I can finish pretty high up on the board in all types of matches.

It's been awkward using a k/b mouse setup, and it still is at times, but I have been getting better.
I don't think I have added any of you guys. Send me a friend request or something...http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/user/mphfrom77/
Added you to OP.

First, I tend to shy away from public chat. It's noisy and confusing. My friends and I use the built-in Battlelog voice chat. It has good options, it's private, and it simply works. I didn't try it in the beta as I didn't play the beta for long, but I'm hoping it's similar in BF4. Many people use TeamSpeak as well.

As for drivers, you can always play it safe and download them directly from Nvidia. You'll also get links for beta drivers.

And it's good to get used to how the gun-play works with a mouse/keyboard. It's much easier to handle things like recoil when you can compensate for it by pulling down on the mouse. The more you play, the better you'll get. Don't be afraid to switch up your key bindings either. You may think you like the way it's set now, but you may like it another way even more. O_o
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for some unknown reason, I just paid $70 for bf4 for pc. Primarily played 360 version of bf3 due to the incredibly slow loading times of bf3 pc. Time is always at a premium for me so even waiting 5 minutes to get in the game compared to about 1 minute for 360 was reason enough to focus on the 360 version. Perhaps it was due to my slow isp at the time. anyhow, looking forward to the bf4 pc visuals. nick for pc is tumult99
Added you to the OP as well.

Slow load times could also be attributed to your hard drive if you don't yet have an SSD. When I moved from a hard drive (fairly fast one as well) to an SSD early on in BF3, my load times went from a couple minutes to about 20 seconds. Maybe less. All of my friends who made that transition during the life of the game noticed the exact same thing. In fact one of my friends just got so tired of hearing the rest of us in the game playing on chat while he was still loading that it sort of forced him to get an SSD. lol


As for BF4, I have to take back what I said about being there on day one. I may not get it for a month or two. I won't have much time to play for a while so I figured I might as well wait and pick it up later, otherwise I'd want to play it now to the detriment of some things I have to do. tongue.gif
post #58 of 125
perhaps i should upgrade this pc to an ssd. it's an older pc, and I would have to upgrade the mobo as its only 3gb sata. been putting it off because all my games played just fine...

anywho, no one has played bf4 yet?

tum
post #59 of 125
Yes I have played. I might be a little disappointed, coming from countless hours of BF3 on xbox 360 (and about 30 hours of it on pc recently after building my 1st pc). But I will definitely be playing the heck out of it, so the verdict is out on how I really feel about it. Everything has just been so chaotic with all the unfamiliar maps and gameplay characteristics. Plus, for me, the servers and game glitches have been a little bit of a mess, so I have had tons of trouble there.

But I am getting used to it. I mean it is still a good game, but I am going to have to make a bunch of adjustments from BF3.

But, currently, I am unhappy with the infantry gunplay. I just don't like it so far. I hoping when I start unlocking guns, that I can find some guns I like better than what I have been using, which is the starter guns. I just think it is more than that. Hard to describe though. I've seen a lot of comments about people thinking it has turned towards COD a little bit, or something. So that is a big one for me.

Also, it just seems like vehicles have a hard time, except maybe the Attack Boats which I absolutely love. Not even close, the Attack Boats are my new favorite vehicle. Kind of crazy, but you can just sit somewhere and fire one TV Missile shot after another. No waiting for a reload. Just one right after another.

I'll put some videos up when I get some good gameplay, but here is my YouTube channel...http://www.youtube.com/user/ajmjacqueline

So far I have only put up a couple videos to show what the Nvidia game capture looks like. And the 2nd one to show a quick clip of what Attack Boats are kind of like with a TV Missile.

BTW, have you guys heard that the Nvidia 780's prices have dropped somewhere between $120-$160 off of their MSRP. I ended eating $120...ouch. Also today Amazon had a 780 for sale for $370. I think it was a price mistake though.

I think I am going to really like ShadowPlay. It seems pretty darn nice. Though YouTube quality is pretty much junk. But the file that ShadowPlay creates, a 1080p at 60fps I believe, is really nice. Just YouTube makes it not look so good.
post #60 of 125
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Yes I have played. I might be a little disappointed, coming from countless hours of BF3 on xbox 360 (and about 30 hours of it on pc recently after building my 1st pc). But I will definitely be playing the heck out of it, so the verdict is out on how I really feel about it. Everything has just been so chaotic with all the unfamiliar maps and gameplay characteristics. Plus, for me, the servers and game glitches have been a little bit of a mess, so I have had tons of trouble there.

But I am getting used to it. I mean it is still a good game, but I am going to have to make a bunch of adjustments from BF3.

But, currently, I am unhappy with the infantry gunplay. I just don't like it so far. I hoping when I start unlocking guns, that I can find some guns I like better than what I have been using, which is the starter guns. I just think it is more than that. Hard to describe though. I've seen a lot of comments about people thinking it has turned towards COD a little bit, or something. So that is a big one for me.

Also, it just seems like vehicles have a hard time, except maybe the Attack Boats which I absolutely love. Not even close, the Attack Boats are my new favorite vehicle. Kind of crazy, but you can just sit somewhere and fire one TV Missile shot after another. No waiting for a reload. Just one right after another.

I'll put some videos up when I get some good gameplay, but here is my YouTube channel...http://www.youtube.com/user/ajmjacqueline

So far I have only put up a couple videos to show what the Nvidia game capture looks like. And the 2nd one to show a quick clip of what Attack Boats are kind of like with a TV Missile.

BTW, have you guys heard that the Nvidia 780's prices have dropped somewhere between $120-$160 off of their MSRP. I ended eating $120...ouch. Also today Amazon had a 780 for sale for $370. I think it was a price mistake though.

I think I am going to really like ShadowPlay. It seems pretty darn nice. Though YouTube quality is pretty much junk. But the file that ShadowPlay creates, a 1080p at 60fps I believe, is really nice. Just YouTube makes it not look so good.

How's the performance hit with ShadowPlay? I still use FRAPS because I like to record in 30 minute increments (and ShadowPlay is limited to 20 I hear), but if the performance hit is much lower than FRAPS I may update my drivers to use ShadowPlay lol
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