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post #61 of 111
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Originally Posted by grittree View Post

I'm not sure about that. Last Sunday I saw the last half of the Saints game (weather delayed) using the EASports/Amazon ST deal. Best I can tell, I can see any game that is not being shown on local TV. And that doesn't stop just because a game shown locally ends early and switches to that particular game.

Maybe so. I was watching the tampa bay game in week 1 online, switching some to other games, and definitely could no longer access it when they switched to it on the national TV feed. I tried multiple times, while I could still switch to the other games that were still being played. Maybe there was some other reason & it was just coincidental. If you could still get access to a game that they starting showing on your local channel, then that proves it was some other issue. Good to know.
post #62 of 111
Mine worked really well yesterday. I watched all the games. In my area I could not watch the Pats vs Tampa (I watched on CBS though) or the Ravens vs Texans (on the other CBS) which are my two favorite teams so that sucked that I could only watch the broadcast (I use the Directv as the second source)

Later the jets vs bills was also blacked out in my area (I am in MA)

otherwise I was able to watch everything else with acceptable quality.
post #63 of 111
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Originally Posted by grittree View Post

I'm not sure about that. Last Sunday I saw the last half of the Saints game (weather delayed) using the EASports/Amazon ST deal. Best I can tell, I can see any game that is not being shown on local TV. And that doesn't stop just because a game shown locally ends early and switches to that particular game.

I agree, I don't think that is the case either. I have been happily getting all the games except my Denver Broncos, which I watch via my HTPC/OTA antenna anyway...
post #64 of 111
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Originally Posted by Mfusick View Post

Mine worked really well yesterday. I watched all the games. In my area I could not watch the Pats vs Tampa (I watched on CBS though) or the Ravens vs Texans (on the other CBS) which are my two favorite teams so that sucked that I could only watch the broadcast (I use the Directv as the second source)

Later the jets vs bills was also blacked out in my area (I am in MA)

otherwise I was able to watch everything else with acceptable quality.

Mine has been working well too, via the HTPC hardwired Cat5. I haven't tried but I wonder whether you could still get local highlights if you were watching the Red Zone Channel instead of the direct game?
post #65 of 111
I'm very disappointed in the picture quality of NFL game rewind. I guess for the money it's worth it but the stuttering at HD quality is really annoying. I have a fairly powerful PC. It's a 3.4ghz quadcore with 8gb ram, ATI radeon HD graphics card. Comcast blast internet at 35mbps. wired connection right of the comcast router. Every other streaming service I use looks absolutely perfect but no matter what I do, I can't get the stutter out of NFL. They recommend turning off hardware acceleration in the browser. That tells me they don't use it. If you make the window something other than full screen, it is pretty good but full screen HD stutters too much. I have tried every browser available and had the best results with Opera but the differences were minimal. I'm going to try NBC's stream next Sunday as a comparison.
post #66 of 111
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Originally Posted by bakerja View Post

I'm very disappointed in the picture quality of NFL game rewind. I guess for the money it's worth it but the stuttering at HD quality is really annoying. I have a fairly powerful PC. It's a 3.4ghz quadcore with 8gb ram, ATI radeon HD graphics card. Comcast blast internet at 35mbps. wired connection right of the comcast router. Every other streaming service I use looks absolutely perfect but no matter what I do, I can't get the stutter out of NFL. They recommend turning off hardware acceleration in the browser. That tells me they don't use it. If you make the window something other than full screen, it is pretty good but full screen HD stutters too much. I have tried every browser available and had the best results with Opera but the differences were minimal. I'm going to try NBC's stream next Sunday as a comparison.

I have never tried NFL Rewind, but you would think it would be better quality than that since it is an online streaming product specifically... You don't have anything else major going on your network at the same time. Have you ever tried it on a different PC with a different video card-Intel, etc.? Let us know how the stream is with NBC.
post #67 of 111
I have not tried it with another PC hooked to my HDTV but just watching on other pc's, the results are similar. I have a PC at work that is almost the same specs and full screen playback is choppy. I also have a nearly brand new iMac that exhibits similar results. It is not a network issue. I know that. The picture would pause and stop if that were the case. NFL only buffers 1 second at a time (to keep you from trying to capture the stream and recording it.) and I suspect that this may have something to do with it. Keep in mind I'm kind of a nut when it comes to quality too. The picture is really crisp and clean but jerky with motion. I would love to hear that someone out there is having a perfect viewing experience, then I would know I still haven't found the solution, and there IS one. Maybe it's just too much to expect that it could look like my antenna feed. Except for the choppiness, it actually is. Actually my local NBC affiliate compresses the signal so much that it looks like garbage. They refuse to spend the money for VBR tech and settle for CBR for all of the streams. Consequently the compression artifacts are quite noticeable. Fox and CBS on the other hand look great locally.

Will report back next week when I have compared the NBC online feed.

Thanks
post #68 of 111
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Originally Posted by freetvEE View Post

Mine has been working well too, via the HTPC hardwired Cat5. I haven't tried but I wonder whether you could still get local highlights if you were watching the Red Zone Channel instead of the direct game?

yeah... Red Zone shows local highlights. They actually show every TD of every game (that's the moniker remember wink.gif )

But only highlights- not the whole game. A local fan needs to tune into his local FOX or CBS to see the local game (whichever game is considered local for your market) That is just to make people in that area watch the local broadcast. I have no issues with this since CBS and FOX are both FREE and widely available. I just turn on CBS. The Sunday ticket is- and always has been- about getting the non local games. Or getting all of them.

For me- I use them in combo. I use CBS or fox plus the internet stream- so I can watch MORE !
post #69 of 111
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Originally Posted by Mfusick View Post

The Sunday ticket is- and always has been- about getting the non local games. Or getting all of them.

For me- I use them in combo. I use CBS or fox plus the internet stream- so I can watch MORE !

Yep, I do the exact same thing, and it's working well!
post #70 of 111
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fyi-This deal was sold out, but I just bought another copy for a friend today at regular price. It seems to be available and sold out back and forth so doubt it will stay long...
post #71 of 111
Has anyone tried this with the browser built into google tv? I just got a great deal on a refurb. Lg with google tv built in and am trying to figure out if I'll need to move the htpc over.
post #72 of 111
Supposedly the LG TVs have a Flash capable Chrome browser, so it should work.
post #73 of 111
Is flash required? I think google removed it in the latest update to googleTV.
post #74 of 111
If the PC version is any indication, yes, flash player is required. They haven't gone HTML5 yet.
post #75 of 111
This made me curious, so last night I accessed the browser on my Sony Bravia TV, something I had never done in the 1.5 years I've owned it.

Results: It was sooooooo freaking slooooooow I never even got to the DirectV URL before I quit.

Is there a TV browser that doesn't suck?
post #76 of 111
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post #77 of 111
No problems for me, except the Charger's game had tech difficulties, all others worked just fine. Maybe it only affected those that paid $300 ....
post #78 of 111
the game pass service has been having issues this year too. I've been getting a lot of connection errors for the live streams. Really lame. Never had that issue till this year.
post #79 of 111
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Originally Posted by DanPackMan View Post

No problems for me, except the Charger's game had tech difficulties, all others worked just fine. Maybe it only affected those that paid $300 ....

the irony...
post #80 of 111
I use the Game Pass addon for XBMC. It allows you to lock in the 720p 4.5 Mbps bitrate and the picture is more stable than playing in flash. No choppiness or stuttering.

https://github.com/Alexqw/xbmc-gamepass
post #81 of 111
I am fairly new to xbmc and could use some guidance in installing this add-on. I downloaded the gamepass add on and installed it and it shows up in the list. I alsodownloaded the listed dependancy xmltodict but am unsure how to load it. Any help would be appreciated. When I try to launch the gamepass add on, I get an error. Probably because i do not have the other part installed correctly.

Thanks,
jab
post #82 of 111
Download the zip file but don't unzip it. In XBMC go to system->addons->install from zip file. Navigate to the location you downloaded the zip to and then click it. You have to be using XBMC 13 builds for this addon to work.

Also, just to be clear this works with NFL Game Pass not Sunday ticket (they are two different services).

https://gamepass.nfl.com/nflgp/secure/packages
Edited by StinDaWg - 10/7/13 at 7:19pm
post #83 of 111
Got it installed but getting error "script failed. NFL game pass"

On xbmc 13.a8

I have a valid game rewind account. It appears to login but when I click on the season, I get the error.
post #84 of 111
It's working well for me, but I hate how it blocks out local games. One of the games actually was not locally broadcast for me, and that sucked.
post #85 of 111
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Originally Posted by Mfusick View Post

It's working well for me, but I hate how it blocks out local games. One of the games actually was not locally broadcast for me, and that sucked.
Connect with a VPN. Once you're on you can disconnect and continue steaming using your regular internet connection.
post #86 of 111
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Originally Posted by Mfusick View Post

It's working well for me, but I hate how it blocks out local games. One of the games actually was not locally broadcast for me, and that sucked.

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Originally Posted by StinDaWg View Post

Connect with a VPN. Once you're on you can disconnect and continue steaming using your regular internet connection.

Although, Stin says is true. That's usually for getting better bitrate feeds and reducing buffering.

Mfusick's situation is about blackout rules. I find it odd he couldn't see a game if it wasn't local broadcast. Nationally televised games are blackouted as well. My thought, it was broadcast locally, but you just didn't get the channel with your TV service. The unless you get something about the game blacked out, you could have had a connection error. And it's not always obvious when that is occurring. Assuming the service works like the NFL's Game Pass, blacked out games will not be listed
post #87 of 111
I will do the VPN thing ... I guess. I usually don't use a VPN on my laptop.
post #88 of 111
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Originally Posted by lovekeiiy View Post

Assuming the service works like the NFL's Game Pass, blacked out games will not be listed
Nothing is blacked out on NFL Game Pass assuming you use a VPN when needed. You get all the nationally televised games and playoffs as well.
post #89 of 111
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Originally Posted by StinDaWg View Post

Nothing is blacked out on NFL Game Pass assuming you use a VPN when needed. You get all the nationally televised games and playoffs as well.

This is not necessary true. Some countries have some games blacked out. For example, the UK has one game on, a few Sundays, that is blacked out. They also blacked out the playoffs. Black outs is about TV contracts outside the USA. In the USA, it's TV contracts and US regulations.
post #90 of 111
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Originally Posted by lovekeiiy View Post

This is not necessary true. Some countries have some games blacked out. For example, the UK has one game on, a few Sundays, that is blacked out. They also blacked out the playoffs. Black outs is about TV contracts outside the USA. In the USA, it's TV contracts and US regulations.
You can get around that by using a Netherlands VPN. Every game is available, for free. I thought everyone already knew this, it's been that way for years.

I can't believe people pay $300 for this when they can get it for free.
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