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post #91 of 130
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Originally Posted by Morpheo View Post

...To think that the same person lectured us continuously in the Cloud Atlas thread about stereotypes seems vaguely ironic now.

sterotypes? To say american's are not too interested in a movie about 2 europeans in a european sport is not being sterotypical. Bottom is most american's dont give a crap about F1 racing or euro drivers. This far different than actors wearing Blackface or Yellowface.
post #92 of 130
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Originally Posted by Tack View Post

Your expert analysis of the movie you haven't seen has been invaluable.



- said no one ever.

funny, there were a bunch of comments on this thread BEFORE the movie was released. yet you only criticize my comments? weird.
post #93 of 130
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Originally Posted by sog35 View Post

sterotypes? To say american's are not too interested in a movie about 2 europeans in a european sport is not being sterotypical.

To say that they don't look like "typical race drivers" is stereotypical.
To say that the movie looks like a high brow european snob film is stereotypical (and condescending).
To imply that americans are only interested in american stories is stereotypical.
post #94 of 130
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Originally Posted by Morpheo View Post

To say that they don't look like "typical race drivers" is stereotypical.
To say that the movie looks like a high brow european snob film is stereotypical (and condescending).
To imply that americans are only interested in american stories is stereotypical.

they don't look like NASCAR drivers which is huge in the US. And thats a fact. No sterotyping there.
F1 driving is a snob fest. Just like Kentucky derby in American. And thats another FACT. Its billionaires sport done in Europe. And I should know since i live near the only F1 track in the USA. It was a snob fest the entire weekend in the city.

And the box office numbers PROVE my point that american's are not interested. Do you think american's would be interested in a movie about Cricket? Its just common sense.
post #95 of 130
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Originally Posted by sog35 View Post

funny, there were a bunch of comments on this thread BEFORE the movie was released. yet you only criticize my comments? weird.

Whats funny is you thinking you know about F1 because "you live near an F1 track".

Whats funny is your insecurity projecting "snobbishness" on others.

Whats funny is you stridently complaining about every perceived slight in Cloud Atlas and then coming here and casually throwing out all kinds of cultural generalities.

That's funny.

post #96 of 130
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Originally Posted by sog35 View Post

they don't look like NASCAR drivers which is huge in the US. And thats a fact. No sterotyping there.

You first said "race drivers". And now you're narrowing it to NASCAR drivers. That's a fact.
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F1 driving is a snob fest. Just like Kentucky derby in American. And thats another FACT. Its billionaires sport done in Europe. And I should know since i live near the only F1 track in the USA. It was a snob fest the entire weekend in the city.

If you knew better you'd know that F1 is also a fascinating sport. And that's another fact.
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And the box office numbers PROVE my point that american's are not interested. Do you think american's would be interested in a movie about Cricket? Its just common sense.

it's "americans", not "american's". The film not finding an audience in North America doesn't PROVE that the film is not good. And that's another fact.
post #97 of 130
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Originally Posted by Morpheo View Post

You first said "race drivers". And now you're narrowing it to NASCAR drivers. That's a fact.
If you knew better you'd know that F1 is also a fascinating sport. And that's another fact.
it's "americans", not "american's". The film not finding an audience in North America doesn't PROVE that the film is not good. And that's another fact.

racer drivers in america = NASCAR. Unless you are living under a rock. Say race driver in America and people will name NASCAR drivers and not a single F1 driver.

F1 is viewed as a snob sport in the USA. Is it correct? Maybe not but that's how its viewed. Just like Golf was 20 years ago. In my city the F1 fans had a shuttle to the track to avoid traffic......in helicopters. If that's not a snob sport I don't know what is.
post #98 of 130
Actually when he described 5 foot 4 inch pretty boy Jeff Gordon as an example of sporting virility, that's when I started laughing. Haven't stopped yet. biggrin.gif
post #99 of 130
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Originally Posted by sog35 View Post

racer drivers in america = NASCAR. Unless you are living under a rock. Say race driver in America and people will name NASCAR drivers and not a single F1 driver.

F1 is viewed as a snob sport in the USA. Is it correct? Maybe not but that's how its viewed. Just like Golf was 20 years ago. In my city the F1 fans had a shuttle to the track to avoid traffic......in helicopters. If that's not a snob sport I don't know what is.


And what does it have to do with the quality of this film?

I'm not american so I can't tell you how americans view F1 in general, you're the expert.
Although I know quite a few americans who know about F1, and they even like it.

So basically you're not interested in seeing this film, which is fine, but you also want to make some kind of statement that F1 is for european snobs therefore this movie is not worth seeing, which is not fine. Don't patronize others about a film that you haven't seen and about a sport that you barely know just because "they're all a bunch of snobs". As I said I'm not american, and yet I'm interested in a lot of things that are only popular in the USA. Go figure.
post #100 of 130
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Originally Posted by sog35 View Post

racer drivers in america = NASCAR. Unless you are living under a rock. Say race driver in America and people will name NASCAR drivers and not a single F1 driver.

F1 is viewed as a snob sport in the USA. Is it correct? Maybe not but that's how its viewed. Just like Golf was 20 years ago. In my city the F1 fans had a shuttle to the track to avoid traffic......in helicopters. If that's not a snob sport I don't know what is.

There are snobs in every sport. If someone can afford a better mode of transportation, does not make him/her a snob. Have you ever attended or watched a formula 1 race? I have attended numerous races, including NASCAR and F1. I cannot arrive in a helicopter or even a Ferrari. Racing is racing no matter the vehicles. Each has a different appeal. I would not belittle F1 or NASCAR. Just different strokes for different folks (as the saying goes).
P.S. My favorite is the Canadian F1 in Montreal. The people I meet there during F1 week are not snobs. Many are cities all over the US and Canada.
post #101 of 130
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Originally Posted by Morpheo View Post

And what does it have to do with the quality of this film?

I'm not american so I can't tell you how americans view F1 in general, you're the expert.
Although I know quite a few americans who know about F1, and they even like it.

So basically you're not interested in seeing this film, which is fine, but you also want to make some kind of statement that F1 is for european snobs therefore this movie is not worth seeing, which is not fine. Don't patronize others about a film that you haven't seen and about a sport that you barely know just because they're all a bunch of snobs. As I said I'm not american, and yet I'm interested in a lot of things that are only popular in the USA. Go figure.

i'm just explaining why many american's are not seeing this excellent film.
its a cultural thing.
americans just dont like F1. pretty simple.
post #102 of 130
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Originally Posted by sog35 View Post

i'm just explaining why many american's are not seeing this excellent film.
its a cultural thing.
americans just dont like F1. pretty simple.

Indeed.

It's just that I almost saw a pattern in "high brow european snob film" and F1 being only a "snob fest".
post #103 of 130
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Originally Posted by sog35 View Post

they dont look like your typical race drivers, more like jeans models
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Originally Posted by sog35 View Post

they look nothing like Jeff Gordon or tony Stewart, you know real men. they look like metro-sexual dudes who have to have nice hair when going 200mph.
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Originally Posted by sog35 View Post

they don't look like NASCAR drivers which is huge in the US. And thats a fact. No sterotyping there.

I think your quotes are on the money. Only these jean model, real men, metro-sexual dudes, ARE NASCAR drivers.


David Ragan

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Jammie McMurray

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Juan Pablo Montoya

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Kasey Kahne

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post #104 of 130
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Originally Posted by steve f View Post

We're being put on guys. Lol at Jeff Gordon or Tony Stewart, you know, real men. Also laughing at the idea of Hunt as a metro-sexual, this the guy who banged 33 British Airway stewardesses, sometimes in pairs, and who thought jeans and a t-shirt was formal attire.

Oh, yeah, Hunt may may have looked like a male model but he was a crazy-brave tough guy who spent his life in the fast lane. Oh, and nobody ever questioned his sexuality either. smile.gif
post #105 of 130
Dragged the wife to the film last friday. She loved it more than I did, and that is saying a lot. Where did Howard find an excellent actor who looks so much like Lauda? Incidentally, we had to compress the crowd to get two seats together to watch a film about Euro sissy-boys, and this was in San Antonio, Texas.
post #106 of 130
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Originally Posted by Distorted View Post

Dragged the wife to the film last friday. She loved it more than I did, and that is saying a lot. Where did Howard find an excellent actor who looks so much like Lauda? Incidentally, we had to compress the crowd to get two seats together to watch a film about Euro sissy-boys, and this was in San Antonio, Texas.
Good to hear it was a lot of people there. Glad you and your wife enjoyed it.
And I agree, the resemblance of both of the drivers is uncanny.
post #107 of 130
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Originally Posted by sog35 View Post

based on the trailer. they dont look like your typical race drivers, more like jeans models
Niki Lauda, jean model ?LOL,that's good.
post #108 of 130
I've got the damned flu and likely won't see this. The local theaters will have it on their tiny little screens by the time I can venture out next week. Too bad as I wanted to see it.
post #109 of 130
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Originally Posted by Aliens View Post



I think your quotes are on the money. Only these jean model, real men, metro-sexual dudes, ARE NASCAR drivers.


David Ragan

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Jammie McMurray

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Juan Pablo Montoya

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Kasey Kahne

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Those aren't F1 drivers?They look pretty snobby to me.
post #110 of 130
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by stevew24963 View Post

Those aren't F1 drivers?They look pretty snobby to me.
Montoya used to be. Does that count?
post #111 of 130
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

Montoya used to be. Does that count?
He was a weapon in F1.But yeah,it counts.
post #112 of 130
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Originally Posted by sog35 View Post

they don't look like NASCAR drivers which is huge in the US. And thats a fact. No sterotyping there.
F1 driving is a snob fest. Just like Kentucky derby in American. And thats another FACT. Its billionaires sport done in Europe. And I should know since i live near the only F1 track in the USA. It was a snob fest the entire weekend in the city.

And the box office numbers PROVE my point that american's are not interested. Do you think american's would be interested in a movie about Cricket? Its just common sense.
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Originally Posted by sog35 View Post

racer drivers in america = NASCAR. Unless you are living under a rock. Say race driver in America and people will name NASCAR drivers and not a single F1 driver.

F1 is viewed as a snob sport in the USA. Is it correct? Maybe not but that's how its viewed. Just like Golf was 20 years ago. In my city the F1 fans had a shuttle to the track to avoid traffic......in helicopters. If that's not a snob sport I don't know what is.
I could refute nearly everything you are trying to say, but I am too snobbish to do so.

BTW, look for me next month in Austin...I'll be one of those European-looking snobby guys in one of the helicopters.

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Originally Posted by Distorted View Post

Dragged the wife to the film last friday. She loved it more than I did, and that is saying a lot. Where did Howard find an excellent actor who looks so much like Lauda? Incidentally, we had to compress the crowd to get two seats together to watch a film about Euro sissy-boys, and this was in San Antonio, Texas.
Sir, you have restored my faith in The Lone Star state....wink.gif
post #113 of 130
Adding the domestic and foreign box office, 'Rush' is at $72.6 million now. It's nearly played out, so it should end up around $75 million as a final figure. The budget was $38 million and if it gets modest DVD/BR sales it will turn out to be fairly profitable. For a movie that most would consider a niche film it did well IMO.
post #114 of 130
Thread Starter 
Glad to hear it.
Thanks for the info steve.
post #115 of 130
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Originally Posted by steve f View Post

Adding the domestic and foreign box office, 'Rush' is at $72.6 million now. It's nearly played out, so it should end up around $75 million as a final figure. The budget was $38 million and if it gets modest DVD/BR sales it will turn out to be fairly profitable. For a movie that most would consider a niche film it did well IMO.

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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

Glad to hear it.
Thanks for the info steve.

+1! Was glad to learn that Rush has made a nice profit. To my way of thinking, it was well deserved.
post #116 of 130
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To my way of thinking, it was well deserved.
Yeah, that.cool.gif
post #117 of 130
This one is for sale on Vudu for $15. Judging from your reviews (and others), and the fact I like everyone involved with the film and the subject, it's tempting...
post #118 of 130
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This one is for sale on Vudu for $15. Judging from your reviews (and others), and the fact I like everyone involved with the film and the subject, it's tempting...
Day 1 BD buy for me.

In case you don't know, we have an F1 and Sports Car thread going now:
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1502329/2014-formula-1-in-hd/0_60
post #119 of 130
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Originally Posted by oink View Post

Day 1 BD buy for me.

In case you don't know, we have an F1 and Sports Car thread going now:
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1502329/2014-formula-1-in-hd/0_60
And IndyCar!
post #120 of 130
This is my favourite film of
2013. It combines an incredibly well balanced script with Ron Howard's gripping direction and a pair of committed performances from Chris Hemsworth and Daniel Brühl. Most amazingly, the drama and conflicts between the rivaling main characters manages to keep pace with the balls to the wall action sequences. Even if you have no interest in Formula 1 racing, or motor sports for that matter, don't miss one of the best films of the year (to unfortunately have received no Oscar recognition).

Did anyone notice the little homage to Days of Thunder? I think it was at least. The first race where Lauda and Hunt spin, they playing Spencer Davis' 'Gimme Some Lovin'', which reminded me a lot of the montage in DoT near the beginning when Cole Trickle (Cruise) starts his first few races in Nascar (same song, similar cinematic feel).

Personally, I've been a huge Formula 1 fan for many years. This film did the sport justice showing the good and bad sides to it. I'm pretty disappointed with the lack of recognition. The movie doesn't demonize either Lauda or Hunt. It just presents them as they were, while embellishing their disdain for each other for dramatic purposes. That's one of the reasons I like it so much. Lots of grey between the black and white.

A Blu Ray purchase for sure! Definitely looking forward to feeling this one in my home cinema. biggrin.gif
Edited by Dbuudo07 - 1/29/14 at 4:22am
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