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why not buy a used 1000 instead of this pj for about the same price isn't it?
post #783 of 1083
Buying a B stock 1000ES and having it upgraded to a 1100ES is the way to go. The options and costs have been discussed already. Whether AVS has any B stock 1000ES left is another question. Call Mike, Craig, or the new guy, my old friend David the Harper man.
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Originally Posted by EricU: When I bought my JVC, I was talked into going with a 135" 2.35 screen and man am I glad I did, I just love it..

Yes, I love it too I have a StewartFilm Screen FireHawk 135" 2:35 and I love it!
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I see flicker in 3d on the Sony 1000 and my wife refused to watch 3D on it because of flicker. Its the only part of 3D she complained about. And she never notices or comments on anything related to our audio or video.

Yeah, I'm not sure how the 1000ES could not flicker in 3D unless it were using 144Hz panels. Anything less (120Hz or lower) and my eyes would detect the active shutters at work, since I'm sensitive to 60Hz flicker (& thus am especially sensitive to the 48Hz flicker for 3D/DFI on the 50ES).

Can anyone comment on the frequency actually used for 3D on the new Sony? Please feel free to PM me smile.gif

(P.S. I really wish these forums had user tagging like Facebook... so hard to sift through these huge threads since there are so many conversations going on at once!)
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3D makes me physically sick to me 2D is what I want 8K will be even better
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3D makes me physically sick

I knew I was not the only one.
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Yeah, I'm not sure how the 1000ES could not flicker in 3D unless it were using 144Hz panels. Anything less (120Hz or lower) and my eyes would detect the active shutters at work, since I'm sensitive to 60Hz flicker (& thus am especially sensitive to the 48Hz flicker for 3D/DFI on the 50ES).

Can anyone comment on the frequency actually used for 3D on the new Sony? Please feel free to PM me smile.gif

(P.S. I really wish these forums had user tagging like Facebook... so hard to sift through these huge threads since there are so many conversations going on at once!)

Probably 48Hz per eye for 24fps source material, just like most current 3D projectors. The Sony SXRD panels operate at 240Hz (maximum) and for 3D a black frame is inserted between each active frame. Thus in 3D the displayed sequence is:

........Left - black - Right - black - Left - black - Right - ......

When the 3D source signal is 24Hz (e.g., from a Blu-ray player) the projector operates the panels at 192 Hz with 48 left frames, 48 right frames and 96 black frames per second. The black frames are necessary for 3D because this is the time needed for the active 3D glasses to transition between opaque and clear states and for one image on the SXRD panel to be cleanly replaced by the next image (intended to be seen by the other eye).



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Edited by Ron Jones - 10/13/13 at 4:57pm
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You are not asking about lens shift. You are asking about motorized zoom functions and zoom memories. And your question is whether the 500/600 has them? And the answer is yes. smile.gif

Excellent! Thanks Mark!

I really enjoy my JVC, but was amazed when I saw the Sony 84" 4K panel in Vegas last year.

So my next question as I keep getting lost in this thread as I am one of the lucky ignorant consumers that gets to just enjoy my HT gear:
  1. When and how is the 4K content going to come out?
  2. My local shop had the Sony media server but it had only 6 titles (that was a month or two ago??) I have seen Sony's website which now has 70 titles.
  3. Will future titles be download only? I live in a part of Napa where I can only get an ATT (12 mps) ISP for now (fighting with Comcast! mad.gif)
  4. Will all new 4K content be distributed by download only?
  5. Are other studios getting on the 4K bandwagon?


I think it was around '06 when I was about to purchase a SIM2 (C3X?) It had an awesome picture quality at 720P, but I ended up not getting around to my HT until a little more than a year ago and was talked into the JVC. Now I am hooked on the 2.35 ratio (when available)

Now I am looking forward to seeing the 4K when the material is available. Thanks again!
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Originally Posted by EricU View Post

  1. When and how is the 4K content going to come out?
  2. My local shop had the Sony media server but it had only 6 titles (that was a month or two ago??) I have seen Sony's website which now has 70 titles.

Sony must be hiding Sony Video Unlimited 4K Service (and several variations) from Google. Can you provide a link? All I see here is SD and HD titles from Sony.
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Sony must be hiding Sony Video Unlimited 4K Service (and several variations) from Google. Can you provide a link? All I see here is SD and HD titles from Sony.

I'm guessing the 4K library is only accessible through the XMP server as it's the only device that will play them. Is the resolution of the films UHD or actual 4K? I'm guessing UHD to match their UHD flat panels. Are the audio tracks lossless or lossy?
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Excellent! Thanks Mark!

I really enjoy my JVC, but was amazed when I saw the Sony 84" 4K panel in Vegas last year.

So my next question as I keep getting lost in this thread as I am one of the lucky ignorant consumers that gets to just enjoy my HT gear:
  1. When and how is the 4K content going to come out?
  2. My local shop had the Sony media server but it had only 6 titles (that was a month or two ago??) I have seen Sony's website which now has 70 titles.
  3. Will future titles be download only? I live in a part of Napa where I can only get an ATT (12 mps) ISP for now (fighting with Comcast! mad.gif)
  4. Will all new 4K content be distributed by download only?
  5. Are other studios getting on the 4K bandwagon?


I think it was around '06 when I was about to purchase a SIM2 (C3X?) It had an awesome picture quality at 720P, but I ended up not getting around to my HT until a little more than a year ago and was talked into the JVC. Now I am hooked on the 2.35 ratio (when available)

Now I am looking forward to seeing the 4K when the material is available. Thanks again!


Also a technical committee of the Blu-ray Disc Association is currently working on the standard for the next generation Blu-ray Discs that will include support for 4K UHD. The specification is expected to be completed by early 2014 and if that happens on schedule then the first UHD compatible Blu-ray players and movies should be released around a year from now. Of course, things could be delayed until a 2015 rollout, but it appears that several of the consumer electronics manufacturers are now pushing to get Blu-ray 4K UHD out as soon as possible and hopefully the movie studios will also get behind it and support the format.
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So, next year when we are able to purchase our new UHD projectors at $10K, we will have UHD material to watch.
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So, next year when we are able to purchase our new UHD projectors at $10K, we will have UHD material to watch.

We have some now and will have more next year. We may even have it disc based by the end of next year or some time in the following year.
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We have some now and will have more next year. We may even have it disc based by the end of next year or some time in the following year.

There are those Sony movies on the server, but having them on a disc just sound so much better
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There are those Sony movies on the server, but having them on a disc just sound so much better

+1. If I'm going to buy a movie, I want to have it on my shelf in my media library. I can wait.
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An abucus sounds so much better than a calculator. I know a prominent reviewer on this site trusted by all who burns every disc he has to his server memory. It seems like you are hell bent on justifying a decision not to go true 4K this year. I personally think anyone who could have afforded it having to abstain from one Micky D's, In and Out, Sonic, or Taco Bell lunch should have purchased a 1000ES two years ago. feel fre to add any fast food chain to my list. I prefer Burger King myself and dislike Five guys because they only cook burgers well done.
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I imagine that we will begin to have all the classic movies (e.g., Borne series, David Craig Bond movies, etc.) released in 4KBD, just as happened when BD itself appeared. And many of us will get our favorites in 4KBD, to go with the BD and DVD versions we already have.
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I imagine that we will begin to have all the classic movies (e.g., Borne series, David Craig Bond movies, etc.) released in 4KBD, just as happened when BD itself appeared. And many of us will get our favorites in 4KBD, to go with the BD and DVD versions we already have.

WHAT! You don't have them in laser disc as well?
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WHAT! You don't have them in laser disc as well?

What is a laser disc? Seriously!!!
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What is a laser disc? Seriously!!!


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page
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WHAT! You don't have them in laser disc as well?

Had quite a few (several hundred) but gave most of them away when they were replaced with DVDs. Should have kept them for several years and sold them on flea bay. I still have several titles on D-Theater because of there is no release on BD of same title.

I don't purchase video software that is not covered by the First Sale Doctrine. AFAIK, you can not sell on download on flea bay wink.gif
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page

I bet that took some time to post that link. You had to pause your soaps on your dvr smile.gif
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I HATE when anybody asks a question seriously. But you know me, I respond with the relevant info as expeditiously and as succinctly as possible. Please don't forget the thumbs up. Thanks smile.gif
Edited by mark haflich - 10/14/13 at 2:47pm
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You would seriously be in a better mood when you finished up your upscaled soaps smile.gif
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4K at 4Gs now that would be great here is my favorite now all we need is some one in the projector field to do the same and eat SONY's lunch and Dinner :)

 

http://www.seikidigital.com/products/seikiPro/4k.php

 

Sorry I really want 4K but not at $15Gs

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4K at 4Gs now that would be great...Sorry I really want 4K but not at $15Gs

Really! with the system and room that you run??? I find that hard to believe!smile.gif

I think the Sim2 unit that I was going to purchase in '06 was over $22k and I couldn't wait to drop that money on it. Now that the buy in for a 4K PJ has gone from $25k to $15k, I see that as a great trend for the early adopters.

I just need some kind of media that I would be able to rent movies from as over the years I have drooled over the Laser Disk, gave away piles of VHS tapes, gave away over 900 DVDs and a Sony 400 disc changer, had "King Kong" on HD-DVD (guessed that outcome wrong) to now only having hard copies of my kids (and yes mine!) favorites, (Transformers, Star Trek, etc) on Blu-ray.

I used to be at the Blockbuster Blu-ray section a couple of times a week, but they just closed our local one and Hollywood Video has been gone a few years now. So now I just rent from Redbox and have a continual stream from Netflix. With my current ISP, downloading 40 gig 4k movies a few times a week would be tiresome and not really practicable over a course of time. If I can get Comcast to extend their service to one more house (no kidding) I would be able to have much faster download speeds and it would then be viable.

I didn't think that 4K would make that much of a difference and I do have to admit, I have not seen the PJ in action, but that 84" 4K in Vegas reminded me of the "WOW" factor of my first time seeing a 40" tube High-Def TV!

Due to the content delivery issue, I don't see myself going 4K for at least a year, but I can't WAIT!!!! BRING IT ON!!!!
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I think it makes sense to wait till next year atleast to buy a 4k pj. I want to be able to buy a 4k movie and not some sony download. In the meantime im buying the new C-7 Corvette. Bwaaaajah
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Movies downloaded on a hard drive and instantly accessed on a nice UI are SO much more convenient, IMO. I also like reading books on an iPad.
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