Originally Posted by New Design View Post
I agree on the point about Seiki. In the same way as not all 1080p devices look equal. Manufacturers use specs to fool us into thinking we have a bargain. Look, it's 4k just like the $25k model and it has 1,000,000:1 contrast ratio so it must be great.
With projectors, brightness, lens quality and the image processor make a huge difference and nothing in the advertised specs really help us know. The lumens number is never real. At 2000 lumens, everything could look green or it may look great but you won't know until you see it. The $25k Sony projector claims 1 million:1 contrast ratio. I have seen it in person and it has nice contrast but I have seen better. At comparable pricing, I have seen much better.
Our perception of resolution is influenced by so many things other than the number of dots on the screen. Even with 4k native content, it won't make as much difference as some people think. The Sony looks better than other Sony 1080p equivalent projectors at a closer distance than you would ever watch from. From a normal seating distance, it gets harder to tell. The quality of the glass and processor are not consistent with equivalently priced high end devices. With no 4k content yet, that makes it a poor buy even at $10k.
Compared to real high end projectors, the Sony 4k really doesn't look that impressive. When you turn frame smoothing off, as you should for movies, it looks far less detailed. The 4k projector is a decent amount brighter than other Sony projectors which does add a lot of pop to the image. For that money though, you can get far brighter.
It won't matter is cheap 4k projectors with amazing specs get released, they can still turn out to perform poorly. I wish they advertised specs that were actually helpful.
Some of the Christie, Barco, projection design devices that are 1080p and cost $30k - $50k have little in the specs to tell you why they cost so much more except brightness. When you see them, they look so much better than $3000 projectors with higher advertised contrast ratios and identicle resolution. The difference is enough to show how little we should care manufacturer specs.
I bet the cheaper Sony 4k projector will not be in the same legue regardless of what the specs say. If the only difference was really only 300 lumens, it wouldn't explain a $5k - $10k drop in price, would it?
So your saying that all the members on here who own this 25K projector and say its one of the best pictures they have seen is sub par to you ?
Or are you saying the new lower priced unit is sub par ?