Originally Posted by Hawkmoon
You sure about the HDMI 2.0 built in? How do you know that HDMI 4 definately has 2.0? HDMI input 4 on all 4k Sony's have the update for the HDCP protocol that makes only that input work with the media player. When the sets first came out this was not the case and if you bought a media player Sony would have to send techs out to replace a board to make it HDCP that it required for the media player. This update was NOT for HDMI 2.0. Later the newer versions of the 900a (like mine) came with the upgrade already installed. I find it odd that Panasonic has been singing from the rafters that they will have the first HDMI 2.0 set available on the market. Even Sony's website states that the HDMI 2.0 will be a firmware update at the end of the year. And this is on the 850a page, not the 900a page.
Also, your information on the media player downloading all movies is incorrect. It will only do this on "Select" movies. When you go to your media player for movies that you do not own, some are listed as "Pay and Play" and others are listed as "Pay and Download". They only do this for a small portion of the movies, not every single one.
Im not surprised It doesn't download every movie, but everyone I've attempted to play was already downloaded. Talking to a Sony rep yesterday he suggested it will try to be smart about what it downloads based on your prior viewing habits.
After doing some more research I'm not positive port 4 has hdmi 2.0 out of the box. My reasons for thinking that were the Sony website lists the TV has having hdmi 2.0. Secondly I've read post after post of people talking about Sony techs coming to install hdmi 2.0 on their sets to get the 4k movie player to work. After talking to the Sony rep yesterday as well as the information in your post, they were actually installing something else completely (you say hdcp, he said some sort of a communication chip). So I could test it myself, but I only have displayport 1.2 output on my video card. Do you think converting DP 1.2 to HDMI will keep the 60hz? I don't see why it wouldn't. I'll need a pretty long cable which I don't have, and I'm not sure how far you can even run DP 1.2. So then if it doesn't work it could be the conversion, cable length, or the tv lacks hdmi 2.0 out of the box
There are so many odd things about this set I'm not sure I can keep it. Add that to the fact that I'm not sure 4K does any good at this size further than 4-5 feet and I'm really considering going to the 70" sharp, 84" LG, or possibly ditching 4k and getting the 75" F8000.
Potential deal breakers:
1. Potential hdmi 2.0 upgrade issues if it's not included out of the box (how long, bricks, etc)
2. No way to adjust optical audio delay (AV Sync)
3. Even with analog audio out to my Soundbar or AV Receiver on some content I have to pause the TV to get the audio in sync again. (happens watching Taxi Driver in 4K)
4. You can't access all settings in all modes. Example, no way to change video or anything for that matter when watching the built in Netflix app. While watching the 4K player you are given some adjustments but not all. Can't switch from built in sound to external sound for example while the 4k player content is playing.
5. SmartTV implementation is lacking compared to what I'm used to (Samsung). Fixed with a bluray player.
6. Too small to really see the benefit of 4K when 8-10 feet back at this size.
7. It's a Sony, which to me is a big deal. I promised myself to not support these guys but their 4K player exclusivity suckered me in, and for what? I'm almost done watching all the content after 2 days.
@Mcarozza: Because the speakers on the side are reflective and tacky looking, To me anyways. And they aren't as good as even a cheap Soundbar. The gorilla glass is cool, but way to reflective for my tastes. It screams Apple Cinema Display with the large black border, not my thing.
@starchild: yeah, you would need to use hdmi to run the audio to your Soundbar. My Soundbar only has optical, coax and analog RCA inputs unfortunately.Edited by OneStepAhead - 9/30/13 at 6:08am