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post #31 of 579
I am willing to take the plunge on this projector when it does come out without any reviews if I can get it at a great discount or sale price.

So If I can't sell my LG PA75U should I feel that it's wasted money in this current projector I have or use it for different purposes.

I am afraid once I get the 1080P LED projector that this projector will sit in a corner and collect dust.

Or I can get the LG PF80G model without the TV monitor since most TV signals only broadcast in 720P or 1080i.

Selling this current projector sure would help in making the jump to this 1080P LED.

However I did moan and groan about how this projector would have to hold me over until the 1080P LEDS projectors come out at a reasonable price, it's just ? I didn't expect it this soon after waiting a long time for a 1080P reasonable priced decent projector to come along.

How many here do have either the PA70G or the PA75U who have not sold it but will still go ahead and keep it and buy this new LG PF80G or 80U model ?

If they can sell the LG PF80G without the TV tuner for under $ 1,000 that would be even sweeter.

Lesson learned, I should have waited.
post #32 of 579
Other thing here is why buy this when acer k750 right now is about 900

The same chip with best cover , zoom and more lumens
difference is laser led against led complete is best or not

we have betters color with 3 leds ?

why optoma hd91 take this path?


Saludos
post #33 of 579
The last place I saw a few months ago that had the Acer K750 was Newegg selling it for about $ 900 but they have discontinued it.
If you follow that thread for the AcerK750 some saw a merchant right after New Egg discontinued it raise up the price up into the $ 1,800 range.
I haven't seen it on Amazon recently either.
If you read some of the posts and reviews their Acer k750 didn't fair well in some reviews and some found that it had some blurring in some fast actions scenes.
I also read on some reviews that the colors are off a little on that projector and not accurate.
It turns out that the Acer K750 seems to be a mediocre projector not worth buying.
Besides ? LG seems to be a better quality brand than Acer.
post #34 of 579
post #35 of 579
Thread Starter 
I will soon get the new LG (beginning of October) I will be able to compare the PF80G with the ACER K750 under the same conditions.
post #36 of 579
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Originally Posted by DLPProjectorfan View Post

How many here do have either the PA70G or the PA75U who have not sold it but will still go ahead and keep it and buy this new LG PF80G or 80U model?

I've had the PA70g since shortly after it was released. Paid $450 at Frys. Best $450 I have spent. No regrets - it has been great having a 100" display for TV, Xbox and movies. Not sure how some people managed to not have fun with this device. The LED light source has been perfect in terms of the heavy usage and the many on/off cycles of the unit - particularly with my young kids using it. I thought that I would have missed 1080p, but it turned out 720p was fine. Majority of my material is DVD quality with some 720p HD. When I play a 720p source it looks great.

I am excited to hear about this new LG 1080p unit, and will definitely give it a look. The area where I think it will show a benefit is viewing static images such as web pages. Because in that area the PA70g can be lacking. But short of some killer deal on the new unit, I will likely stick with the PA70g because it has worked so well and been a lot of fun.
post #37 of 579
I don't want to sound like I keep moaning and groaning about this but about 2 years ago I was thinking even if they were to come out with a halfway decent 1080P LED projector with at least 1,000 lumens and over for about $ 1,500 to $ 2,000 I could live with it and I think mostly everyone here could too.

Yes I know, the $999.99 specail or under for a LED 1080P projector deal is better.

Yes, if I keep the PA 75U and buy the non TV tuner model PF80G ? for under $ 1,000 because B&H Photo from NewYork has it advertized for the PF85U shipped for $1,199 and I think they have to have it shipped from Korea.
I can only guess that the PF85U is the model with the TV tuner.
So ? a guess that the PF80G would be $1,000 without the TV tuner ?

So ? this PA75U and if I buy the PF80G that would be about $1,650 tied up in both projectors.

I am still coming out ahead considering what I was willing to pay about 2 years ago and I would have 2 projectors one for everyday use and TV use and the 1080P LED for the good stuff.

Also that gives me a total of 40,000 hours of life with both projectors.

However ? to be or not to be that is the question, the PA75U ? would it just sit in the corner and collect dust ?

Ok everyone ? those with experience with 1080P vs 720P projectors with a TV tuner either built in or a separate TV box tuner.

Most TV broadcast are either 720P or 1080I right ?

So ? even with a 1080P projector ? would I notice a improvement in picture quality compared if I just watch it on a native 720P projector with a 720P TV tuner broadcast ?

In my case ? it won't make sense to go with the LG new model with the TV tuner ? yes or no ?

In other words ? many will say quit complaining about it and enjoy what you got and when the LG 1080P model comes out buy it and use it for the good stuff and the other one for regular TV watching like the news or games.
post #38 of 579
I have pa70g and I am happy with it , but the problem here is than we are a little bit sick
And good not enough

The pa70g and according i was reading in experience of users the chip dlp of this projector have a problem of lack of sharpness.

And the whites are less whites

Maybe the optic have fault too but i think fixed optic with less components must be less problems even in plastic.

I see colors then never seen in others projectors , some colors a little bit out ,but nice and very promising

If the pf80g can get the colors of the pa70g and the sharpness of dlps 0.65" for me is a big winner

And no doubt we have to update

Saludos
post #39 of 579
I really love my pa70g, I use it as my everyday PJ, since I can turn it off and on , anytime I want, and it should last a number of years, just like all my hdtv's.

Now, for movie night/football night in more lighting conditions, I use 1080p bulb PJ, since it's 2,000 lumens and I could go bigger screen sizes and have a few lights on in room.

I guess if you don't have any led PJ, maybe hold off and see how this LG pa80g gets reviewed. And see what promotional price is available.

Even if I didn't own a 1080p bulb PJ, and just had 720p LED LG model, I think I would be ok, but , I would have to limit myself to super dark room, and there have been times when I was with others and the lighting conditions for the 720p LED was too faded, so I would turn on the 1080p bulb PJ and it came to the rescue. So even at 1,000 lumens of the new model, as long as you have "dark room" you should be good to go. But if you think of these LED's as everyday PJ for kicking around, and then using the 1080p bulb for kick butt viewing in afternoon or with people, or xbox ONE playing. You not only save the bulb hours, but make 1080p bulb viewing more like a theater experience.

My 1080p bulb PJ is suppose to have 6,000 hours bulb life, so if I only use it 10-20 hours a week it would last years before I had to replace it, and use the LED PJ for everyday tv , light viewing stuff since it has 30,000 hours on it. Just a thought.
post #40 of 579
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Originally Posted by rgtaa View Post

I really love my pa70g, I use it as my everyday PJ, since I can turn it off and on , anytime I want, and it should last a number of years, just like all my hdtv's.

Now, for movie night/football night in more lighting conditions, I use 1080p bulb PJ, since it's 2,000 lumens and I could go bigger screen sizes and have a few lights on in room.

I guess if you don't have any led PJ, maybe hold off and see how this LG pa80g gets reviewed. And see what promotional price is available.

Even if I didn't own a 1080p bulb PJ, and just had 720p LED LG model, I think I would be ok, but , I would have to limit myself to super dark room, and there have been times when I was with others and the lighting conditions for the 720p LED was too faded, so I would turn on the 1080p bulb PJ and it came to the rescue. So even at 1,000 lumens of the new model, as long as you have "dark room" you should be good to go. But if you think of these LED's as everyday PJ for kicking around, and then using the 1080p bulb for kick butt viewing in afternoon or with people, or xbox ONE playing. You not only save the bulb hours, but make 1080p bulb viewing more like a theater experience.

My 1080p bulb PJ is suppose to have 6,000 hours bulb life, so if I only use it 10-20 hours a week it would last years before I had to replace it, and use the LED PJ for everyday tv , light viewing stuff since it has 30,000 hours on it. Just a thought.

That seems a good approach - kind of the best of both worlds. The LED as the everyday workhorse (particularly in my case with kids using it), and then a traditional bulb projector for higher quality more limited viewing. I've thought about it but for now my PA70g is sufficing.

I think if someone already has the PA70g, a traditional bulb projector could provide more benefit than the PF80g. There seems little value in conserving usage of the PF80g given the LED light source, so the PA70g would likely see little usage. And a traditional bulb project could top the PF80g in terms of the light output as you mention, for increased viewing flexibility. I think the PF80g is better suited to someone who does not already own a decent LED projector. Unless the light output and sharpens of the PF80g ends up a considerable improvement and the price right - then could be worth trading up - we will see once it is released.
post #41 of 579
Well, at least your one person who answered the question how be it in a indirect way without you knowing it.

You said you have a bulb 1080P and the LG PA70G so ? at least for one person that settles it.

At least your 720P projector is not sitting in the corner and collecting dust.

That's one of my fears that after I have spent $ 650 and so dollars on the LG PA75U with this new LG PF80G that if I can't sell it it might be religated to the top or bottom shelf of the bookcase collecting dust.

With the LG PA75U with 700 lumens I can still have 2 lights on in the room and can still see the picture ok and one light is a LED equivalent of a 60 Watt incandescent bulb.

The other is a compact fluorescent light with the equivalent of a 60 Watt incandescent bulb.

I can have both on at the same time with no problems seeing the screen with a tad bit little of degradation of the contrast but not a whole lot though.

Now ? with the 1000 lumens projector the lumens would be bumped up another 300 lumens from the LG PA75U projector so I can only imagination that I can have both lights on at the same time in the room with no problems.

I have a over head 4 tube 40 watt each fluorescent light fixture that when I turn it on the picture is almost totally gone.

It's not only the light output of the fluorescent lights but the frequency of fluorescent lights that messes with LED projectors, at least that's what I have read.

What I have found out though is that with LED lights on in the room it doesn't effect the LED projector light output or contrast as much.

How much was your bulb based 1080P projector and you don't feel that the 720P was a waste of money ?

I gather that if I do go ahead and buy the LG PF80G that I am still ahead of the game with 2 projectors with a long life ahead of them as in how lone the light engine will last, 40,000 hours between both of them.
post #42 of 579
Here another more that is anxious to know more about this PF80G.
The only two cons of this projector in my opinion ...No zoom and without 3D.
In the meantime i still squeezing the maximum my PB60G
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post #43 of 579
The no zoom part I can live with.
The PA75U already has 3D but so far with my experience with 3D I am not to thrilled with it.
I causes some strange things with my eyes going out of focus while I am trying to watch something.
As far as 3D I can take it or leave it.
The only con I am see with the LGPF80G is the price and perhaps the problems with the PA70 series focus.
post #44 of 579
Waiting review of kraine...Until then all are assumptions.
When LG will be the official launch of the PF80G? I want to see all their final specifications mad.gif
post #45 of 579
Thread Starter 
ETA first week of October.
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Sorry

Thanks Kraine

Saludos
Edited by Jasinto - 9/19/13 at 7:45am
post #47 of 579
The price in Europe hurts, few days ago were 1299€...now 1349€ eek.gif (1828 $)

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What is this? A prototype? another model?

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http://hd.yesky.com/388/35296388.shtml
post #48 of 579
The actual specs of the projector are not available yet.

1) 1000lumens will be definitely helpful. But Acer K335 with 1000lumens is a real spoil sport. The projector just performs poorly also the lower screen size. But LG has to prove its quality. Its not the features that keeps the product but quality. Can some post links to user manual in English?

2) 1:100000 contrast might be a good number to sell. Not sure if its really useful. Have to check the facts.

3) Having an ambient light sensor could be of added value to adjust the brightness based on the mode.

4) Zoom function is still missing.

5) Better cooling systems rather than just FAN.

6) Instad of SPDIF, HDMI out with ARC & Ethernet is better.

7) Is the HDMI MHL compliant? Also, can I use my smart phone to stream videos wirelessly.

8) Does the unit supports DLNA through LAN? if the wifi can sync with my device seamlessly, I may not need it. Is the LAN normal 10/100mbps or 1GBps?

9) 2USB&HDMI is a +.

10) What is component IN? if its for video, then it will have 3 plugs including AV IN. Correct me if I'm wrong

11) The AC IN plug connector is of non standard type.

12) Does it have bluetooth connectivity to connect with other devices?

13) Does it has any video upscaling/upconvertion ability?

14) How about the projector On screen display. Previous models were not impressive.
post #49 of 579
Luminus PT-120/121? Projector does not show the phlatlight logo though. Just curios
post #50 of 579
Another big question - is the lens any better than their 720p models?
post #51 of 579
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Originally Posted by Steeka View Post

Luminus PT-120/121? Projector does not show the phlatlight logo though. Just curios
The images at homecinema.fr does show the Phlatlight logo in the top right. We still don't know the chipset though.
post #52 of 579
The features were similar to LG PA75U but with a make over.
http://www.lg.com/us/projectors/lg-PF85U-portable-led-projector

Don't go with 20, 000hrs x 2 (40, 000Hrs for 2 projectors). Average life span for this model would be 3-5years irrespective of the usage. Anything above is a privilege.

But 1000lumens will set a bench mark. Its connectivity features were above average.
post #53 of 579
Unboxing PF85K smile.gif No 3D Logo, MHL, Dlna, Miracast, Widi, TV Tuner and Magic Remote Control in this model.

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post #54 of 579
Thanks for the pictures. How much is it?
post #55 of 579
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Thanks for the pictures. How much is it?

http://blog.naver.com/ykyun47/150172468528


Specs

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post #56 of 579
I remember seeing .65DMD being compatible with PT-120/121 not PT-54 (cant remember it it was ti website or luminus website). So keeping fingers crossed until Kraine reviews it and confirms it.
post #57 of 579
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Originally Posted by espetodesardina View Post

Unboxing PF85K smile.gif No 3D Logo, MHL, Dlna, Miracast, Widi, TV Tuner and Magic Remote Control in this model.

Is it clear whether the lens is plastic or glass?
post #58 of 579
So does this mean square pixels?
post #59 of 579
So your saying that this projectors life span is 3 to 5 years even sitting on the shelf not being used ?

The reason why I said 40,000 is because if I buy this one and keep the other I'll have between the 2 40,000 hours if I use both for different purposes.

As far as WiFi is concerned I rather have it hard wired than wireless it's safer and you get a faster connection.

TV tuner can be installed on a PC and hooked up with this projector but the only problem with that is you have 2 devices running consuming electricity.
post #60 of 579
Check it out!

The pf85u model on LG site. Apologies if this info is known as I didn't read it here

http://www.lg.com/us/projectors/lg-PF85U-portable-led-projector
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