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please help me select a replacement projector

post #1 of 28
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hi guys, its been a while since ive been on here but i need help. i've been running a Optoma 721 for a few years now and ies starting to give me problems. this was my first projector and fit my budget and worked great until now. now i know more about projects, have something to compare to and a higher budget.

i've been looking at the epson 8350 which is $1050 on amazon but wanted opinions from more experienced people like you guys. i've noticed a lot of people like/recommend this projector but i was wondering if theres anything else i could get for $1000 or maybe under. this time around i'd like something that will be brighter in the day time because the optoma was useless in the day. also, i doubt its even avail. in my budget but i don't need 3D.
screen is 110". thank you
Edited by supratreo - 9/5/13 at 10:01pm
post #2 of 28
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post #3 of 28
Benq w1070 but it's a shorter throw so see if it works where you want to mount it. Epson 8350 isn't that bright, it has a torch mode, but it's accurate color is not bright at all.

Optoma hd25e is pretty bright and the hd131xe is around $800.
post #4 of 28
Thread Starter 
thank you, the benq came up a lot in my searches, i just didn't know much about it. i'm not an expert so i was mainly looking at the big name brand ones but i'll look more into it.

i'm not too worried about daytime viewing, it was just something that would be nice. also, most of my time on the projector is use for just watching TV, no HD movies or anything like that. its just a replacement for my 46" tv.
also, wanted something that was more reliable or atleast cheaper to fix if needed. to fix this optoma will cost me 3-400 and its only a $700 projector. i'd rather not have to get a new projector every few years. i haven't even replaced the original bulb in this on :/

i'll also look more into the other models you listed. thank you.
post #5 of 28
There are a number of 3D 1080p projectors coming to market right around $1,000. The BenQ W1070 is great but has a limited throw range and almost no lens shift.

The Optoma HD25 and 131 models are both getting solid reviews at this time as well. They also have very limited placement flexibility, but perform well and have good brightness along with 3D.

The Epson 8350 is a solid model, but is several years old at this point. IMO, LCD continues to lack in areas of handling motion as well as DLP does, but this is most noticeable with sports vs. movies.

If you have a fair bit of placement flexibility, I would go with one of the DLP models instead of the 8350, but certainly the 8350 is no slouch!
post #6 of 28
Thread Starter 
thank you for the very indepth review. there will be a lot of sports being watched on this so maybe i should go with DLP? i honestly don't have any flexibility with mounting. it will be going exactly where my Optoma is right now. i know the Epson is a little older and i would hate to get that just to have a newer model come out a month later. also, i don't need 3D but is that pretty much standard on most now?
post #7 of 28
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ok looks like i might be getting the HD131Xe on amazon. its getting good reviews and looks like the only difference between that and the HD25 is the 3D stuff that not included which i don't need anyway. any objections?

also, i'm running Monoprice HDMI over cat6 adapters, will this cause any problems?
thanks guys.
post #8 of 28
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anyone else before i pull the trigger maybe by sunday since it wont ship until monday anyway.
post #9 of 28
You might want to take a look a the Epson 2030. It's Epson's brand new entry level HD projector and is $1,000. It is an LCD projector (no risk of rainbow effect) and does include 3D. The one reason you might go with the Epson over another brand is the Epson 2 year replacement warranty is hard to beat.
post #10 of 28
Thread Starter 
Thanks, ill take a look at that one when I get home. What would the advantages of this one be compared to the 131? Remembering that I don't care for the 3D stuff. The 131 would also have a 2 year warranty right? Also, what about repair costs after the warranty is up?
post #11 of 28
In my opinion, the biggest difference is that Epson is a LCD projector while the 131 is a DLP projector. DLP projectors are prone to rainbows and from what I understand it's something that you may learn to see even if you did not have a problem with it with your last projector. There are ways to reduce the RBE but once you start seeing it then it's usually a constant annoyance. On the other hand, DLP projectors usually give a better sharper picture so if you know about RBE and don't care then the 131 is a good choice.

Epson has a great replacement warranty where they will 2nd day a projector to replace a defective projector. I'm not sure that any other manufacturer offers the same kind of service. Most will want you to ship your projector to them and then have you wait until they repair your projector. I'm not sure about Optoma but I'm pretty sure this is how it works with them.
post #12 of 28
Thread Starter 
thank you. i would prefer epson because its a great brand but i think it will come down to what is better for what i watch. i watch only sports and regular HD tv shows, no movies unless its on tv. i'm not too experienced when it comes to projectors so i don't think iv ever noticed the rainbow, if my current projector has ever had that issue. what does it look like? is it just the separation of the primary colors?
post #13 of 28
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well, decided to go with the 131xe and it should be here tomorrow, i'll let you guys know how i like it. thanks for all the help.
post #14 of 28
You should be very pleased with the HD131Xe. The image is very smooth. It is plenty bright for your screen size, ambient light, and of course sports! You will be one of the few owners out there of it. Let us know what you think of it when you get it.
post #15 of 28
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well guys, i've been using it for a while now and really like it. i haven't setup it up completely but it looks pretty good on the factory settings and daytime brightness is very good. only things i didn't like was that it was a little bit of a pain to get it to fit the picture on my screen, the menus/setup on the projector are a little complicated anddddd theres no s-video haha.

any advice on a s-video to rca adapter? i found one on monoprice but some people say theres a huge image quality issue.
Edited by supratreo - 9/29/13 at 9:50pm
post #16 of 28
What do you have that requires S-Video? If your device has composite video, why not just use it? Is there not a way to connect it via component video instead?

The Wii should always be connected via component video cables or better.
post #17 of 28
Thread Starter 
i have a dvd/vcr (yes vcr haha) that uses it. i don't have the option to run new wires right now because that would require me to cut into my ceiling and walls.
post #18 of 28
Dude you just bought a 800 dollar projector and you're not hooking it up to a bluray player?

c'mon man
post #19 of 28
Thread Starter 
Nope, not yet haha like I said, I spend most of my time watching tv and sports on this, I'll connect my bluray at a later time.
post #20 of 28
Let me rephrase: Why aren't you just using composite video. I don't care that you use a DVD/VCR. Heck, I've got one of those Panasonic BD/VCR units just for those old legacy tapes, but there is no advantage to using s-video. Manufacturers don't even properly produce s-video boards anymore so any advantage you may have gotten a long time ago, has since been eliminated due to technology ignoring s-video for the last decade. Just hook it up composite start to finish and call it a day.

FYI: Plenty of PASSIVE s-video to composite adapters if you don't have a proper composite video cable in place. Passive ones just drop one of the two 75ohm cables inside the s-video cable.
post #21 of 28
Thread Starter 
because doing that would mean tearing into my ceiling and walls which is going to be a TON of work, work that i don't want to get into right now i dont think its really worth it just go get VHS video on my projector haha.
post #22 of 28
I think we aren't on the same page...

What cabling do you have run to your projector? Typically, anything for the past 10+ years should have component video at the very least, but I'm not sure what you have run, and what you are trying to achieve.

If you have s-video run to your projector, only, and the projector doesn't have an s-video input, then us s-video to composite video adapters at BOTH ENDS - this way you are using composite video.

S-video is typically two coaxial cables inside a single casing with their stupid ends on them.

Something like this on both ends...
post #23 of 28
Thread Starter 
ahhh now were on the same page, thats what i was looking at but calling s-video to RCA but yes thats what i want to run. on monoprice a lot of people are saying that they have problems with bad video quality with the monoprice adapters, so, as there any specific adapters you recommend?
post #24 of 28
The hard part is that you really just want to use one of the two cables inside the s-video cable. S-video has two 75ohm cables inside of it (if it is good), and you only need one 75ohm cable with composite video. So, basically you need an adapter that allows you to just use composite video from source (your DVD/VCR) to destination (the projector).

Since you have no HDMI run in place, and no other cabling, the adapters I linked to should work okay. If they don't, then you may need to start soldering and hit up Radio Shack to buy some S-video ends, which you can solder a RCA end onto with a bit of cable between. It's not going to be pretty, but it will allow for a direct composite video path.

The adapters I linked above MAY do the trick though. The key is you want to use them at BOTH ends so you are coming out of the DVD/VCR composite, not s-video. You aren't trying to change s-video down to composite, that would, and should, use an active s-video to composite adapter. Instead, you are just trying to use half of the S-video cable as a composite only cable.

Oh - active adapter I say?

Yup... This is the real deal: http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=extron+s-video&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.Xextron+ycv&_nkw=extron+ycv&_sacat=0

The Extron unit is a pro-grade s-video to composite video adapter. It needs power, and does a great job. Not as cheap as the adapters, but yes, it works.
post #25 of 28
Thread Starter 
Ok that makes a lot of sense thank you for clearing that up. Ill get it going and report back.
Thanks again
post #26 of 28
Thread Starter 
well...i haven't bought the adapters yet but just wanted to let you guys know that its still running great, just need to get a new mount because this monoprice one isn't solid enough and the vibrations slowly knock it out of alignment. i also need to hang it a bit lower because this projection doesn't have enough vertical adjustment like my old one did, that might be my only complaint.
post #27 of 28
If you are handy, get this:

For $33 you get a Chief Elite mount (mini) which will work with your projector. You will need to modify that adapter plate with some nuts and bolts from Home Depot, perhaps drill a couple of holes, but for the price, there is no finer mount you are likely to find. Holds it like a champ and is phenomenally easy to adjust. You will understand once you use it what I mean.
post #28 of 28
Thread Starter 
sounds good, i'll try to post a pic of what i have now so you can see what i have to work with.
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