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post #841 of 999

let's play a little game...which one of these is my new furnace waiting for the weather to warm up enough to install and which ones are the martys waiting for drivers?

post #842 of 999
^^^ Hey a corner to corner brace, that's new.
post #843 of 999
got everything done and inuke hooked up. Have channel A maxed out and not much bass coming from it, almost no mid bass. I'm 100% sure positive and negative are correctly hooked up. Does the Inuke require some setup to output much bass?

Edit- Even in bridged mode the bass is less than my old def tech sub. I just swapped the cables to be sure, and had a worse result. Cabinet is not leaking air anywhere. I can see the driver moving, and it hits low but not very loud. Inuke is maxed out, tried every power mode and still not much output..
Edited by AlphaPie - 2/21/14 at 6:32pm
post #844 of 999
those look sweet. nice work man.

could you snap a few more pics. i'd like to include one or two of your pics in the original martysub post.
post #845 of 999
"Just order 2 more D2's"

congrats!
post #846 of 999
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Originally Posted by AlphaPie View Post

got everything done and inuke hooked up. Have channel A maxed out and not much bass coming from it, almost no mid bass. I'm 100% sure positive and negative are correctly hooked up. Does the Inuke require some setup to output much bass?

Edit- Even in bridged mode the bass is less than my old def tech sub. I just swapped the cables to be sure, and had a worse result. Cabinet is not leaking air anywhere. I can see the driver moving, and it hits low but not very loud. Inuke is maxed out, tried every power mode and still not much output..

You need a bump box like the Samson s convert or art cleanbox. I have my ipr 7500 hooked up with it and have my LFE set to -10 on receiver (lowest it'll go) and -15 on the gains on the front of the amp. Tons of bass (in my bedroom for now with 2 12s). Before I hooked up without it and had gain set to max on amp an +7 on receiver for it to sound balanced. I like my bass hot so I added the bump box.

Dan
post #847 of 999
"got everything done and inuke hooked up. Have channel A maxed out and not much bass coming from it, almost no mid bass. I'm 100% sure positive and negative are correctly hooked up. Does the Inuke require some setup to output much bass?

Edit- Even in bridged mode the bass is less than my old def tech sub. I just swapped the cables to be sure, and had a worse result. Cabinet is not leaking air anywhere. I can see the driver moving, and it hits low but not very loud. Inuke is maxed out, tried every power mode and still not much output.."

sounds like weak voltage coming from your avr. try increasing the subwoofer trim there.
post #848 of 999
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thanks for the info that the d4's are gone.

the driver that you list is more of a pro audio drive at 9mm excursion.

it would probably do ok in the smaller martycube, but i haven't entered the parameters.

I'm not sure what to think of prv at the moment.

I am just reminissing that one week ago tonight I ordered my 2 SI D4s and I will receive them tomorrow. This was based on a post here that said they might be sold out soon. Glad I listened!!!
post #849 of 999
I recalibrated audessy and it made a huge difference! Bass is much better now. However it seems to be lacking a little bit in the midrange, not sure how to tweak that in the inuke software, any suggestions?
Edited by AlphaPie - 2/21/14 at 8:44pm
post #850 of 999
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Originally Posted by AlphaPie View Post

I recalibrated audessy and it made a huge difference! Bass is much better now. However it seems to be lacking a little bit in the midrange, not sure how to tweak that in the inuke software, any suggestions?

Add 3-5 dbs at 65,75,85 hz. That will punch it up cool.gif
post #851 of 999
I'm getting into the red quite often on my inuke. 0 gain in the software, 0dB on receiver and 4 clicks from max on the inuke knob. Sometimes for several sustained seconds. Usual movie volume is -6.5dB. Think am in any danger?
post #852 of 999
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Originally Posted by AlphaPie View Post

I'm getting into the red quite often on my inuke. 0 gain in the software, 0dB on receiver and 4 clicks from max on the inuke knob. Sometimes for several sustained seconds. Usual movie volume is -6.5dB. Think am in any danger?

Yes that's danger. Flicking red is fine but solid red for 2-3 seconds is not.good. turn the gains down a couple of clicks or ease off the peq boost.
post #853 of 999
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Originally Posted by chalugadp View Post

Yes that's danger. Flicking red is fine but solid red for 2-3 seconds is not.good. turn the gains down a couple of clicks or ease off the peq boost.

-4.0 on filter one parametric eq , adjusted knob 2 clicks away from max on I nuke seems to help me stay out the red a bit. Output is nearly the same..
Edited by AlphaPie - 2/22/14 at 3:10pm
post #854 of 999
When in the red is it in danger of over driving the sub or the amp?
Edited by AlphaPie - 2/22/14 at 3:10pm
post #855 of 999
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When in the red is it in danger of over driving e sub or the amp?

I am not an expert in this area but red is the amp clipping. Too much clipping is bad for both the amp and the driver. When you boost eq it chews up the amp power, especially when you boost around 20-30hz. You want the amp clipping lights occasionally flickering on the heavy bass scenes. As Ltd says you are making the amp sweat a little. Prolonged clipping will shorten the amps lifespan.
post #856 of 999
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Originally Posted by chalugadp View Post

I am not an expert in this area but red is the amp clipping. Too much clipping is bad for both the amp and the driver. When you boost eq it chews up the amp power, especially when you boost around 20-30hz. You want the amp clipping lights occasionally flickering on the heavy bass scenes. As Ltd says you are making the amp sweat a little. Prolonged clipping will shorten the amps lifespan.

I suppose its normal to clip at these volumes even when all the gains in the inuke software are at 0, and the one is -4.0 that I mentioned. I'm now 5 clicks from max on the knob. Certain scenes from oblivion are hitting red on and off for about one full second. I cant hear any clipping, but I'm sure it must be if thats what the red light indicates. A little disappointed I'm reaching the limits so quickly.


-Edit, would bridged mode help give me more headroom or increase the likelihood of clipping given the increased power it provides?

Edit again, Doing some reading, seems as though clipping this type of amp will only distort the sine wave, basically it wont send part of the signal thats over its limit. This shouldnt damage anything other than generating heat. Since the freq range is so low its harder to hear which should mean that distortion at 20-40hrz should have less effect on the driver, generating less heat? I'm probably way out of my league trying to explain what little reading I've done, I'm probably wrong. I'm just trying to justify running my inuke hot I guess. Some pro please chime in and set me straight!
Edited by AlphaPie - 2/22/14 at 4:37pm
post #857 of 999
Yes , try bridge mode. How much power are you currently sending to the driver ?
post #858 of 999
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Originally Posted by chalugadp View Post

Yes , try bridge mode. How much power are you currently sending to the driver ?

What ever the output is with stereo mode for the inuke3000dsp. Manuel says 570 rms 880 peak, the driver can handle up to 900 watts rms, so it should be impossible to over drive it with my current setup. So when the red limit led comes on the inuke, i assume its saying the amp cant output the power that the signal requires so it simply doesnt output the entire signal. This shouldnt damage anything?
post #859 of 999
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Originally Posted by chalugadp View Post

Yes , try bridge mode. How much power are you currently sending to the driver ?

What ever the output is with stereo mode for the inuke3000dsp. Manuel says 570 rms 880 peak, the driver can handle up to 900 watts rms, so it should be impossible to over drive it with my current setup. So when the red limit led comes on the inuke, i assume its saying the amp cant output the power that the signal requires so it simply doesnt output the entire signal. This shouldnt damage anything?
Which sub driver are u using ?
post #860 of 999
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Originally Posted by chalugadp View Post

Which sub driver are u using ?

Dayton 460ho 18"

http://www.parts-express.com/dayton-audio-rss460ho-4-18-reference-ho-subwoofer-4-ohm--295-472
post #861 of 999
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Originally Posted by AlphaPie View Post

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Originally Posted by chalugadp View Post

Which sub driver are u using ?

Dayton 460ho 18"

http://www.parts-express.com/dayton-audio-rss460ho-4-18-reference-ho-subwoofer-4-ohm--295-472

Many people are.sending 1100 watts to that driver with no problems . Run the inuke in bridged for 1100 watts.
post #862 of 999
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Originally Posted by chalugadp View Post

Many people are.sending 1100 watts to that driver with no problems . Run the inuke in bridged for 1100 watts.

You think that will help the amp not get into red? I'll have to solder a new connection on my hook up, I'm using the 1+ and 1- right now arg..
post #863 of 999
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Originally Posted by chalugadp View Post

Many people are.sending 1100 watts to that driver with no problems . Run the inuke in bridged for 1100 watts.

You think that will help the amp not get into red? I'll have to solder a new connection on my hook up, I'm using the 1+ and 1- right now arg..

Yes , you will be sending nearly double the power. Your right that you will have to rewire.
post #864 of 999
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Originally Posted by chalugadp View Post

Yes , you will be sending nearly double the power. Your right that you will have to rewire.

Ill need the 1- and 2+ right? Positive to 2+ and -1 to negative.

Edit, wouldnt that be 2100 watts rms into 4ohms, 1100 is into 8ohms? According to the manual. Thats past the limit for the sub since its a 4ohm unless I'm missing something
post #865 of 999
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Originally Posted by AlphaPie View Post

Ill need the 1- and 2+ right? Positive to 2+ and -1 to negative.

Edit, wouldnt that be 2100 watts rms into 4ohms, 1100 is into 8ohms? According to the manual. Thats past the limit for the sub since its a 4ohm unless I'm missing something

I am not sure about the wiring. need to ask someone who is more of an expert in that department. Ltd would know for sure.
post #866 of 999
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I am not sure about the wiring. need to ask someone who is more of an expert in that department. Ltd would know for sure.

What about the power? 1100 rated at 8 ohms, 2100 is at 4ohms for the inuke. And by the way, your help has been absolutely tremendous, thank you.
post #867 of 999
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Originally Posted by Claybe View Post

I am just reminissing that one week ago tonight I ordered my 2 SI D4s and I will receive them tomorrow. This was based on a post here that said they might be sold out soon. Glad I listened!!!

You are lucky! I ordered mine before you and never heard from them again, well except for the receit from SI and PayPal.
I'm sure they will get here sooner or later.
post #868 of 999
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Originally Posted by AlphaPie View Post

What about the power? 1100 rated at 8 ohms, 2100 is at 4ohms for the inuke. And by the way, your help has been absolutely tremendous, thank you.

I have a si18 d4 wired 8 ohm bridged for net 1100 watts. 550 from each side. My uxl18 thats coming will be wired 4ohm bridged for 2200 watts. I know the wiring for both of those is red 1 + and black 2+. Maybe look in the threads to see how to wire yours. I don't want to give bad advice and cause you a problem. smile.gif
post #869 of 999
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Originally Posted by chalugadp View Post

I have a si18 d4 wired 8 ohm bridged for net 1100 watts. 550 from each side. My uxl18 thats coming will be wired 4ohm bridged for 2200 watts. I know the wiring for both of those is red 1 + and black 2+. Maybe look in the threads to see how to wire yours. I don't want to give bad advice and cause you a problem. smile.gif

Ah, your driver has 2 voice coils and 2 wire connections that allows you to wire it for 8 ohms? I only have a single voice coil and wire connection, so I assume I can only run it at 4 ohms, correct?
post #870 of 999
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Originally Posted by AlphaPie View Post

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Originally Posted by chalugadp View Post

I have a si18 d4 wired 8 ohm bridged for net 1100 watts. 550 from each side. My uxl18 thats coming will be wired 4ohm bridged for 2200 watts. I know the wiring for both of those is red 1 + and black 2+. Maybe look in the threads to see how to wire yours. I don't want to give bad advice and cause you a problem. smile.gif

Ah, your driver has 2 voice coils and 2 wire connections that allows you to wire it for 8 ohms? I only have a single voice coil and wire connection, so I assume I can only run it at 4 ohms, correct?

I remember someone else wiring like this
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Not sure if this works with inuke3000 ...
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