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post #151 of 483
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Originally Posted by John dhein View Post

Nope. Did you SEE the Vikings last night?

Minnesota has a win, though.
post #152 of 483
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Originally Posted by John dhein View Post

Nope. Did you SEE the Vikings last night?

I'd like to UNSEE that game... and the Pats/Jets game too. frown.gif
post #153 of 483
I caught a few minutes here and there, but Chucky made it perfectly clear he thought the decision to play Freeman was a poor one. I guess that goes to show what the Vikings think of Ponder. Very simple. Stack the box to stop Peterson and let Freeman beat you. A long season for Vikings fans.
post #154 of 483
Rams called Brett Favre about QB job


Who are the people running these organizations? Talk about desperation. The problem is that everyone wants results yesterday, when long-term results take years - even among the best. It doesn’t help that today’s NFL makes that difficult. What used to be a toy for owners has become a pressure cooker. Succeed, or your team will be moved.
post #155 of 483
Thats not the reason. Its because Bradford is out & they have no real backup.

They called Favre because he might be just as good as anyone else out there available.

If anyone out there available was so much better they wouldnt be out there available in the first place.
post #156 of 483
According to the506 maps, the San Francisco vs Jacksonville game in London will be seen by a limited audience, primarily people in San Francisco and Jacksonville. Not that I'm disappointed (actually my city is airing it), but I thought Roger Goddell would have forced his precious London game into more homes.
post #157 of 483
WNYW-DT (2 SD sub channels) OTA & FiOS. NYG @ PHI.

Another week of sub par PQ on FOX. All graphics and objects have digital compression artifacts around them.
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I thought the FOX splicer system was supposed to give the network video better quality? Why can't they do anything to improve the PQ?
post #158 of 483
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Originally Posted by tighr View Post

According to the506 maps, the San Francisco vs Jacksonville game in London will be seen by a limited audience, primarily people in San Francisco and Jacksonville. Not that I'm disappointed (actually my city is airing it), but I thought Roger Goddell would have forced his precious London game into more homes.

I assume the same rules apply even to that game so Goddell has no say-say as to which affiliates choose to carry it outside of the each team's markets.
post #159 of 483
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Originally Posted by icemannyr View Post

WNYW-DT (2 SD sub channels) OTA & FiOS. NYG @ PHI.

Another week of sub par PQ on FOX. All graphics and objects have digital compression artifacts around them.
adhBvSJU.jpg
I thought the FOX splicer system was supposed to give the network video better quality? Why can't they do anything to improve the PQ?
In my opinion, I think the splicer system does the opposite since it caps Fox's HD feed at about 12 or 13 Mbps. I think tv stations digitally broadcasting have about 18 or 19 Mbps. The other 5 to 6 Mbps can be left for the affiliate stations to run their digital subchannels. It's kind of a bummer since it doesn't let the local station dictate how much bandwidth can flexed between their main channel and their subchannels.
post #160 of 483
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Originally Posted by Tom Wellman View Post


In my opinion, I think the splicer system does the opposite since it caps Fox's HD feed at about 12 or 13 Mbps. I think tv stations digitally broadcasting have about 18 or 19 Mbps. The other 5 to 6 Mbps can be left for the affiliate stations to run their digital subchannels. It's kind of a bummer since it doesn't let the local station dictate how much bandwidth can flexed between their main channel and their subchannels.

Agree, splicer systems does not give better quality, just same consistent quality from all affiliates.

post #161 of 483
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Originally Posted by rrainwater View Post

I assume the same rules apply even to that game so Goddell has no say-say as to which affiliates choose to carry it outside of the each team's markets.

Oh, undoubtedly the same TV rules apply. Just curious that a man who views himself as a demi-God didn't try to "force" affiliates to bend to his will.

He announced yesterday that the future of the NFL is a team in London and a team in LA. I think if you ask the players, they'd almost all say they would not want a team in London.

A) Players would have to live there.
B) Seattle, San Francisco, Oakland, San Diego (and LA if they have a team) would have to fly there. Screw that. Not the fans, the actual team.
post #162 of 483
The NFL doesn't control regionalizations outside of rules governing games in primary and secondary markets*. All other markets are given games at the sole discretion of the networks.

*Quick reference (in order of importance):
  • Both FOX and CBS are guaranteed at least one game per week in all markets.
  • Primary and secondary markets must air all road games
  • Primary markets must air all sold-out home games
  • No game besides a sold-out home game can air in a market with a sold out home game
post #163 of 483
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Originally Posted by cgmv123 View Post

The NFL doesn't control regionalizations outside of rules governing games in primary and secondary markets*. All other markets are given games at the sole discretion of the networks.

You're all missing my point... I KNOW the rules apply. I'm saying you would think Roger Goddell would "strongly encourage" networks to carry his marquee game.

If the networks can't even be bothered to make the London game a national event (due to the teams involved not offering a compelling matchup), then the money just isn't there to force this to be an issue.

It sounds like Goddell is the only one trying to make this happen. I've literally heard no one else say the NFL should have a team in London.
post #164 of 483
- its to get $$ from a new relatively untapped market so the game distribution here doesnt really matter.

- also was the jaguars why would he want to push them on tv when the cowboys a huge tv draw were on at the same time.

- that fox tv window got the 2nd highest regional rating of the season so the choices of game distribution worked out nicely.

- now there is talk of having 8 games in london per year with each team playing at least 1 game every 3 years.

- week 13 falcons/bills in toronto is not gonna get wide distribution either cause for us its just another game.
post #165 of 483
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Originally Posted by tighr View Post

You're all missing my point... I KNOW the rules apply. I'm saying you would think Roger Goddell would "strongly encourage" networks to carry his marquee game.

I think you are over-estimating the power of Goodell. Affiliates will show what games will give them the best ratings when the rules don't dictate what game must be shown. That is what Goodell wants as well. Having big ratings in the US for a game in London means nothing to the NFL. They are trying to sell the game to that market not the US.
post #166 of 483
As a local sports fan who roots more for the Gmen than the Jets, it's highly unlikely that these two rivals in the nfl will play each other in February.
post #167 of 483
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Originally Posted by dcowboy7 View Post

- its to get $$ from a new relatively untapped market so the game distribution here doesnt really matter.

- also was the jaguars why would he want to push them on tv when the cowboys a huge tv draw were on at the same time.

- that fox tv window got the 2nd highest regional rating of the season so the choices of game distribution worked out nicely.

- now there is talk of having 8 games in london per year with each team playing at least 1 game every 3 years.

- week 13 falcons/bills in toronto is not gonna get wide distribution either cause for us its just another game.

I would be pretty ticked off if my team had to give up a home game to play in London... hell I always see look through the schedule to see how many teams we have to play coming off a bye, and get mad if its more than 2.

I think the NFL's best option is to go to a 17 week schedule and have every team play one neutral site game. West coast teams can play in Japan or Australia, the rest would play one game in Europe, Mexico or Canada (Buffalo playing in Toronto does not count as neutral for them).
post #168 of 483
i think my unconverted dvds have better pq than my local fox nfl games.
post #169 of 483
The KC/DEN game in week 11 has been flexed to SNF, and the GB/NYG game moved to 4:25. Good move, at least now I can watch my game on Sun afternoon, instead of staying up late struggling to make it to the end of the game at 11:30PM.
Hopefully by the time this game comes around, the Giants would have righted the ship and be contenders again.
post #170 of 483
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Originally Posted by mikepier View Post

The KC/DEN game in week 11 has been flexed to SNF, and the GB/NYG game moved to 4:25. Good move, at least now I can watch my game on Sun afternoon, instead of staying up late struggling to make it to the end of the game at 11:30PM.
Hopefully by the time this game comes around, the Giants would have righted the ship and be contenders again.

After the current string of bad games on SNF and MNF, I'm glad they didn't waste time and flexed a game pretty quickly.
post #171 of 483
Here's the rationale behind the move of GB/NYG out of prime time and KC/DEN in (the latter was initially protected by CBS).

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/giants/post/_/id/31556/giants-packers-flexed-out-of-prime-time?ex_cid=espnapi_public
post #172 of 483
Interesting to see what CBS gets in return for this. They lose a game.
post #173 of 483
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Originally Posted by tighr View Post

Interesting to see what CBS gets in return for this. They lose a game.

The networks don't get any compensation when they lose games to flexes. It's just how the flex system works.

The only compensation CBS is in exchange for giving up their original protection of that game. The NFL and NBC probably gave them some cash and scheduling consideration.
post #174 of 483
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Originally Posted by humdinger70 View Post

Here's the rationale behind the move of GB/NYG out of prime time and KC/DEN in (the latter was initially protected by CBS).

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/giants/post/_/id/31556/giants-packers-flexed-out-of-prime-time?ex_cid=espnapi_public

Interesting, I did not know the Giants originally had 2 SNF games in 2 weeks.

True what the articles says that the best the Giants can be by week 11 is 3-6, but also the rest of the teams in the NFC East could also flop these next 2 weeks, and the Giants can be right back in it.
post #175 of 483
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Originally Posted by cgmv123 View Post

The networks don't get any compensation when they lose games to flexes. It's just how the flex system works.

The only compensation CBS is in exchange for giving up their original protection of that game. The NFL and NBC probably gave them some cash and scheduling consideration.

Not really how it works though cause this case was different as it was the 1st time ever a network lost a protected game.

& a few people writing about this are speculating cbs will get a future consideration on something down the line.
post #176 of 483
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Originally Posted by dcowboy7 View Post

Not really how it works though cause this case was different as it was the 1st time ever a network lost a protected game.

& a few people writing about this are speculating cbs will get a future consideration on something down the line.

Exactly my point. I remember a few years back, CBS stole an LSU/Alabama game from ESPN in exchange for future considerations.
post #177 of 483
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Originally Posted by dcowboy7 View Post

Not really how it works though cause this case was different as it was the 1st time ever a network lost a protected game.

& a few people writing about this are speculating cbs will get a future consideration on something down the line.

That's exactly what I said.
post #178 of 483
When did NFL RedZone HD (on Verizon FiOS) start passing the Dolby Digital 5.1 audio feeds from Fox and CBS? They weren't doing it a few weeks ago.
post #179 of 483
Red Zone is only stereo audio on FiOS VH07. I had a similar problem with NFL Network till this season. Audio was DD 5.1 but I was only getting stereo 2.0.
post #180 of 483
Giants make it three in a row...the rest of their schedule looks iffy
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