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post #421 of 483
I've been a Cowboyfan since the 70's and I'm upset with them. I haven't bought any Cowboys gear since 2000. I don't have pay TV and only watch the games that come on the free over the air channels. When a game comes on a channel I don't get I don't even worry about it. Paying for Sunday Ticket to watch this team would be a huge mistake.
post #422 of 483
The Cows at least won championships in your fan era. Pity the hapless NY Jets fans whose dysfunctional ownership and organization are known for the "Butt Fumble" and no SB appearances since pre-merger.
post #423 of 483
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Originally Posted by philw1776 View Post

The Cows at least won championships in your fan era. Pity the hapless NY Jets fans whose dysfunctional ownership and organization are known for the "Butt Fumble" and no SB appearances since pre-merger.
Well, our (the Jets) future is looking better going forward at least. Our rook QB played much better in his last couple of games and he'll have a full season under his belt when training camp next summer. We ended up .500 which no one expected. Our coach and O.C. will be here next year (no need for Geno to learn a new system) and we only need a few decent draft picks to make the passing game a little more potent.

The Cowboys will always be hamstrung as long as JJ continues to put his stamp on the team by interfering with the pro player decisions.
post #424 of 483
Agreed, I'm a Falcons fan and was not so much embarassed as surprised that they collapsed so badly this year but have confidence that ownership and GM/coach can turn it around quickly.
But if I was a Cowboys fan I would be embarassed to have JJ as an owner - it's obvious to anyone but diehard Boys fans that the team has been an underachiever for years now with no confidence that they will be anything but average, which has to be disappointing given the investment in the Taj Mahal stadium.

It was embarassing to be a Falcons fan in the dark days before Arthur Blank bought the team, no question about it. The Smiths as owners were awful and we all suffered through decades of crap with just the occasional good season here and there. JJ is not awful, he's just too stupid rich and egotistic to realize he needs to GTF out of the way. Pretty much wearing the Al Davis crown now, in other words.
Edited by slowbiscuit - 1/1/14 at 8:41am
post #425 of 483
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Originally Posted by philw1776 View Post

Uh, that's why I made the prediction. Peyton Manning has a propensity to lose post season.


Oh, he sure does, no argument there. San Diego did it in the regular season too.
post #426 of 483
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Originally Posted by slowbiscuit View Post

Agreed, I'm a Falcons fan and was not so much embarassed as surprised that they collapsed so badly this year but have confidence that ownership and GM/coach can turn it around quickly.
But if I was a Cowboys fan I would be embarassed to have JJ as an owner - it's obvious to anyone but diehard Boys fans that the team has been an underachiever for years now with no confidence that they will be anything but average, which has to be disappointing given the investment in the Taj Mahal stadium.

It was embarassing to be a Falcons fan in the dark days before Arthur Blank bought the team, no question about it. The Smiths as owners were awful and we all suffered through decades of crap with just the occasional good season here and there. JJ is not awful, he's just too stupid rich and egotistic to realize he needs to GTF out of the way. Pretty much wearing the Al Davis crown now, in other words.

Agree - Cowboys franchise always sticks out as some type of Jingoistic Freak, if there is no better description. Nothing against the players. They're the same across the profession. Any broadcast with "Cowboys" has a tone of expectation beyond reality and the apologies in defeat are loud and clear to reinforce the strange myth of "America's Team" on TV. It's almost a cartoon to anyone who's paying attention.

The Falcons? Never would I think they could fall as hard after such a great build over the past 4 years, but locals
have long memory with this unfortunate familiar ground.
Edited by thedeskE - 1/1/14 at 5:58pm
post #427 of 483
Hear that Norv Turner and Ray Horton, both in Cleveland, may be seeking a New home.
Hopefully Jerry Jones will grab them both for Cowboys staff.
Horton has shown promise as d coordinator, and Turner, while some may question his head coaching credentials, is known as one of the best play callers in the league ...and was o coordinator before in Dal.
Horton was a d back on Cowboy SB team.
post #428 of 483
More Jerry puppets, you mean? Should be a meme.
post #429 of 483
At least Norv Turner has proven successful experience as o coord under Jimmy Johnson.
post #430 of 483
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Originally Posted by JSUL View Post

At least Norv Turner has proven successful experience as o coord under Jimmy Johnson.
He just needs to keep in mind the Peter Principle and not try to be more than that.
post #431 of 483
Amazing, ain't it?

The NHL can sell out a regular season game at an outdoor venue, in the cold and in the snow (105,000+).

Yet, nearby Green Bay, Cincy and Indy (in a enclosed facility!) have difficulty selling out for an NFL PLAYOFF game.
post #432 of 483
Blackout lifted in Indianapolis. Green Bay more than likely will have their blackout lifted as they only need 1,000 tickets to sell by 4pm CT as either fans or a local company will buy the remaining tickets. In Cincinnati, a major supermarket chain bought a large unspecified number of tickets, however as of yet not enough to lift the blackout.

http://m.espn.go.com/nfl/story?storyId=10236672&src=desktop
post #433 of 483
They blackout PLAYOFF games? what the?
post #434 of 483
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They blackout PLAYOFF games? what the?

If they don't sell out they do. Hasn't happened since 2002 in Miami.
post #435 of 483
NFL has probably priced itself out of the affordability for many middle-class families.

And the wine and cheese crowd who can afford it aren't so diehard that they're willing to endure arctic weather when they can sit in their comfortable homes with 70-inch TVs and iPads and phones nearby.
post #436 of 483
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Originally Posted by wco81 View Post

NFL has probably priced itself out of the affordability for many middle-class families.

And the wine and cheese crowd who can afford it aren't so diehard that they're willing to endure arctic weather when they can sit in their comfortable homes with 70-inch TVs and iPads and phones nearby.

It will be interesting to see what happens if the outdoor SuperBowl in the former Jersey swamp gets really bad weather
post #437 of 483
Blackout lifted in Green Bay. Three FOX stations in WI were among the business buying tickets.
post #438 of 483
ESPN announced that the Packers game is officially sold out, with the help of local businesses.
post #439 of 483
Yeah the NFL is basically extorting local businesses and stations to buy up the remaining tickets. Though really, can you imagine the uproar if the game was blacked out up there? It would take a hit on popularity.

As for the idea of hosting the SB in NY, they have to do it at least once for every new stadium they build or else the financial viability of these billion dollar stadiums won't work.


But why build an outdoor stadium in the Northeast? Because of all those legendary games from the '50s and '60s? Back then they couldn't build an enclosed stadium or better yet, one with a retractable roof.

Football was slotted in the winter because baseball already had spring, summer and fall. But the traditions of football in Northeast colleges seemed to be about autumn games, in September and October, more than December and January. Now, where is the most prominent college football played? In the Southeast and they don't play in December and January except for the bowl games, which are mostly in warmer areas.

In the NFL, some of the northern teams took advantage of weather but teams like the Bills and the old Vikings couldn't translate that advantage in the Superbowl.

It's nonsense to build outdoor only stadiums. For one thing, these venues want to be able to host other events offseason and they'd have a better chance if it could be enclosed for the weather.
post #440 of 483
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Originally Posted by wco81 View Post

In the Southeast and they don't play in December and January except for the bowl games, which are mostly in warmer areas.

Wrong the sec championship game is in december. tongue.gif
post #441 of 483
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Originally Posted by dcowboy7 View Post

Wrong the sec championship game is in december. tongue.gif

in a climate-controlled dome!
post #442 of 483
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Originally Posted by humdinger70 View Post

Amazing, ain't it?

The NHL can sell out a regular season game at an outdoor venue, in the cold and in the snow (105,000+).

Yet, nearby Green Bay, Cincy and Indy (in a enclosed facility!) have difficulty selling out for an NFL PLAYOFF game.

Well, the NHL Winter Classic is a one-time special event.

I enjoy the NHL (playoffs, i.e. the real season) but to say it even remotely comes close to the popularity of the NFL is disingenious. I am surprised thought that Green Bay would be late making it a sellout, I imagine ticket gouging/pricing came into play.
post #443 of 483
They asked the season ticket holders for a check for all 3 possible post season games, but it would either be used for the post season, or next year (Non-Refundable.) And they asked for this check the weekend after Thanksgiving. (Detroit 40, GB 10)

In addition it's the late Sunday game. And the forecast HIGH for Sunday is NEGATIVE 5F. (-20C)

I'm a huge Green Bay fan, but I'm too old for that ****.
post #444 of 483
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Originally Posted by John dhein View Post

They asked the season ticket holders for a check for all 3 possible post season games, but it would either be used for the post season, or next year (Non-Refundable.) And they asked for this check the weekend after Thanksgiving. (Detroit 40, GB 10)

That's pretty crappy considering a team can only have two home playoff games. I guess they had different prices for each? It's common for many season ticket holders to not buy playoff tickets, especially if the team is not in a great playoff position at the time the invoice comes out. I used to have Giants tickets but gave them up when they opened the new stadium and wanted the ridiculous PSL. I ended up going to the first playoff game in the new stadium when all the seats the season ticket holders didn't buy went on sale. I ended up back on the same yard line I used to sit on in the old stadium.
post #445 of 483
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Originally Posted by wco81 View Post

Yeah the NFL is basically extorting local businesses and stations to buy up the remaining tickets. Though really, can you imagine the uproar if the game was blacked out up there? It would take a hit on popularity.

As for the idea of hosting the SB in NY, they have to do it at least once for every new stadium they build or else the financial viability of these billion dollar stadiums won't work.


But why build an outdoor stadium in the Northeast? Because of all those legendary games from the '50s and '60s? Back then they couldn't build an enclosed stadium or better yet, one with a retractable roof.

Football was slotted in the winter because baseball already had spring, summer and fall. But the traditions of football in Northeast colleges seemed to be about autumn games, in September and October, more than December and January. Now, where is the most prominent college football played? In the Southeast and they don't play in December and January except for the bowl games, which are mostly in warmer areas.

In the NFL, some of the northern teams took advantage of weather but teams like the Bills and the old Vikings couldn't translate that advantage in the Superbowl.

It's nonsense to build outdoor only stadiums. For one thing, these venues want to be able to host other events offseason and they'd have a better chance if it could be enclosed for the weather.

Football has always been a traditionally "cool weather" sport. Fall, and very early winter. Baseball season extends longer than it used to. The World Series, was traditionally (until 1960) held during the first week of October.

I like my football to be played outdoors in cold weather... while I watch indoors on my big TV wink.gif I really dislike watching games played in the older domed stadiums (ie Superdome, Georgia Dome, whatever is in St Louis), its like a tomb in there. The newer ones that let some light in are better. OTOH, hot weather cities need their games indoors in September; old Texas Stadium could get ridiculously hot early in the season.
post #446 of 483
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Originally Posted by RemyM View Post

That's pretty crappy considering a team can only have two home playoff games. I guess they had different prices for each? It's common for many season ticket holders to not buy playoff tickets, especially if the team is not in a great playoff position at the time the invoice comes out. I used to have Giants tickets but gave them up when they opened the new stadium and wanted the ridiculous PSL. I ended up going to the first playoff game in the new stadium when all the seats the season ticket holders didn't buy went on sale. I ended up back on the same yard line I used to sit on in the old stadium.

Its theoretically possible to host 3 playoff games... not sure its ever happened though.
post #447 of 483
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Originally Posted by lobosrul View Post

Its theoretically possible to host 3 playoff games... not sure its ever happened though.

No it's not. All the teams that win this week are road teams next week. So you can be home in week 1 and 3, or 2 and 3, but not all three.

I suppose if the Super Bowl was played in one the teams home stadiums (even though that has never happened) it would be possible to play 3 games in your own stadium, but the way Super Bowl tickets are distributed many of their fans would not be there.
Edited by RemyM - 1/3/14 at 1:48pm
post #448 of 483
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Originally Posted by RemyM View Post

I suppose if the Super Bowl was played in one the teams home stadiums (even though that has never happened) it would be possible to play 3 games in your own stadium, but the way Super Bowl tickets are distributed many of their fans would not be there.

Yeah, I guess you're right. The SB doesn't really count as a playoff game.
post #449 of 483
Congratulations to the Cincinnati Bengals... or is it better to call them the Bungles? You lived down to expectations in the playoffs. Again. biggrin.gif

Four turnovers. Again. Just like last week. But this week, your opponent didn't fall into that trap and didn't turn the ball over at all. Zero. Nada. Piddle.

Go Chargers. (their next opponent, and their quarterback too, are probably thinking: Oy, dese guys again!)
post #450 of 483
By the way, only the indoor team (Colts, playing under a roof) won their home game during Wild Card Weekend. rolleyes.gif
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