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post #1111 of 2974
Thanks for the replies guys!

Damn, I was hoping this was a much easier process by now. Sheesh!
I can't believe everyone accepts this as OK. I am just dumbfounded that it takes mnaully adjusting the projector with each change in format.

I really want to avoid the AE8000 and get the 5030 (in favor of the better PQ) , but man, I don't want to be messing with 5030 continuously either.mad.gif

I was hoping it was like a regular TV image, that either showed the bars or not (depending on content), without having to adjust the optics.
post #1112 of 2974
You should definitely go with a 16:9 screen with this pj, but why not do what I did...I'm very pleased with my multi format screen from Monoprice. Yes, you have to set the masks manually, but it looks and works great.



post #1113 of 2974
Ya, that would be perfect. But a fixed screen is not an option.

I guess I have to choose another PJ or get a 16:9 screen and live with the bars.


If I go with a 16:9 so I have to do any manual re-sizing for a cinemascope movie?
post #1114 of 2974
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Originally Posted by jpmst3 View Post

Thanks for the replies guys!

Damn, I was hoping this was a much easier process by now. Sheesh!
I can't believe everyone accepts this as OK. I am just dumbfounded that it takes mnaully adjusting the projector with each change in format.

I really want to avoid the AE8000 and get the 5030 (in favor of the better PQ) , but man, I don't want to be messing with 5030 continuously either.mad.gif

I was hoping it was like a regular TV image, that either showed the bars or not (depending on content), without having to adjust the optics.

You don't HAVE to mess with the projector at all. You can either get a 16:9 screen and live with the black bars like you do on your TV now or get a 2.40 screen and zoom in out and deal with black bars on the sides for 16:9 content. Even movie theaters have to deal with different aspect ratios. And they just mask the screen.
post #1115 of 2974
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Originally Posted by eliocon View Post

You don't HAVE to mess with the projector at all. You can either get a 16:9 screen and live with the black bars like you do on your TV now or get a 2.40 screen and zoom in out and deal with black bars on the sides for 16:9 content. Even movie theaters have to deal with different aspect ratios. And they just mask the screen.
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Ahhhh, OK, so if I stick with a 16:9 screen it won't require any adjustment to the projector with 2.35 content, just letterboxes?
post #1116 of 2974
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Originally Posted by jpmst3 View Post

Thanks for the replies guys!

Damn, I was hoping this was a much easier process by now. Sheesh!
I can't believe everyone accepts this as OK. I am just dumbfounded that it takes mnaully adjusting the projector with each change in format.

I really want to avoid the AE8000 and get the 5030 (in favor of the better PQ) , but man, I don't want to be messing with 5030 continuously either.mad.gif

I was hoping it was like a regular TV image, that either showed the bars or not (depending on content), without having to adjust the optics.

My two cents is it depends how much 2.35:1 programming you watch. I have a Epson 6010 with 2.35:1 screen and made my own black masking panels. I don't watch a ton of 2.35:1 programming and don't mind changing zoom and vertical lens shift when I do. No grey letterbox bars is a beautiful thing I would never go back to them!
post #1117 of 2974
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Originally Posted by garrettmoore View Post

Got my projector this morning. Unfortunately my existing Vogels mount used with my HD1000 is just too small to reach the mounting holes on the 5030. Looks like I'm going to need a new mount.

Are there 4 mounting holes, or 5? The manual only labels 4, but there are obviously 5 on the bottom -- one in each corner, and one in the front center. Is this front one meant for ceiling mounting or is it intended for something else? It looks identical to the other 4.

I need to figure out what I can pick up for a mount because I rent and need to get something that will be minimally intrusive on the ceiling.

Can anyone tell me if this projector mount: http://www.electronicsforless.ca/stands-mounts-40/projector-mounts-54/anchormount-acp-pm12-bk-heavy-duty-projector-mount-3-12-drop-2180.html would be:
1) good with the 5030?
2) stable if I were to only place bolts in the center oval slots, along a ceiling joist?
post #1118 of 2974
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Originally Posted by jpmst3 View Post

Thanks for the replies guys!

Damn, I was hoping this was a much easier process by now. Sheesh!
I can't believe everyone accepts this as OK. I am just dumbfounded that it takes mnaully adjusting the projector with each change in format.

I really want to avoid the AE8000 and get the 5030 (in favor of the better PQ) , but man, I don't want to be messing with 5030 continuously either.mad.gif

I was hoping it was like a regular TV image, that either showed the bars or not (depending on content), without having to adjust the optics.

Your "regular" TV shows the bars too, you just don't notice them because they are (on a good set) a deeper back on a smaller screen. Plasma TV's in particular can produce really deep blacks. But the "bars" are still there, in that the signal is still being sent by the source. You just notice them more with a Front Projector on a bigger screen.

Lots of people do CIH to get around this instead of accepting it; myself and others have listed the 3 most common methods several times now smile.gif The easiest way is to make some masks, or buy the Monoprice screen that has them built in (there are other, automated masking solutions out there - Carada makes one - but they cost thousands of dollars. The Monoprice product is around $450 and that includes the screen as well.) Problem solved. With a little time, effort, and $30 you can make a pair of horizontal boards wrapped in black velvet that will utterly eliminate any trace of the "bars" and make you happy. If you take the time to do it right (most folks use magnets) you can create a set that is easy as pie to attach, too.

I used to have these with my old screen, and next weekend when I am back home I am planning on doing it again for my current screen, and the 5030ub. I'll post pics.
post #1119 of 2974
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Originally Posted by jpmst3 View Post

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Ahhhh, OK, so if I stick with a 16:9 screen it won't require any adjustment to the projector with 2.35 content, just letterboxes?

Exactly. It's really just a question of whether or not the bars bother you. I don't pay any attention to them. I'm perfectly happy with my 16:9 screen.
post #1120 of 2974
Yup I'll be making the masking most likely myself. Unless I go with a 120 inch screen then I'll probably do the monoprice muli format screen. But 120 is the biggest it seems for that type of screen.
post #1121 of 2974
Thanks guys!

OK, I think I am finally grasping this whole concept.
post #1122 of 2974
Heya guys,

I just ordered a 5030UB and am about to make the transition from LCD to Projector! Quick question - is there a recommended ceiling mount I should go for?
post #1123 of 2974

Bit the bullet; have the following on order:

 

Marantz SR-7007

Epson 6030UB

Elunevision Elara 2 106" frame with Reference Studio 4K 100 - 1.0 Gain White Material

 

First step into projector-land. Upgrading from a non-3D, but otherwise capable Denon 3808CI and 5 yr-old Samsung 58" plasma. Will be in use with existing Paradigm Reference Studio 5.1 system.

 

Very excited - have some painting to do.

post #1124 of 2974
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Originally Posted by Janhaus View Post

Heya guys,

I just ordered a 5030UB and am about to make the transition from LCD to Projector! Quick question - is there a recommended ceiling mount I should go for?
Peerless or Chief.
post #1125 of 2974
I'm thinking of getting the 6030 and using the 2.35 lens adapter.

Three questions:

1. Who makes the 2.35 lens that are compatible with the epson (Yes I know they are $$$$)?
2. What mounts are compatible with those lenses? I don't want to have to fabricate any special adapters. Bolting up is fine. But fabricating is a "no"
3. Will the 6030 handle a 120" wide (130" diagonal ) 2.35 screen? Will it be in eco or full power mode? (Going with 16 ft Lambert) (That's 30% more screen area then a 104" 16:9) with the 2.35 lens adapter. The screen is a 1.3 Gain Seymour AV AT
post #1126 of 2974
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Originally Posted by DigitalGriffin View Post

I'm thinking of getting the 6030 and using the 2.35 lens adapter.

Three questions:

1. Who makes the 2.35 lens that are compatible with the epson (Yes I know they are $$$$)?
2. What mounts are compatible with those lenses? I don't want to have to fabricate any special adapters. Bolting up is fine. But fabricating is a "no"
3. Will the 6030 handle a 120" wide (130" diagonal ) 2.35 screen? Will it be in eco or full power mode? (Going with 16 ft Lambert) (That's 30% more screen area then a 104" 16:9) with the 2.35 lens adapter. The screen is a 1.3 Gain Seymour AV AT

You'd probably be better off asking these questions in the 6030 thread.
post #1127 of 2974
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Originally Posted by Ix View Post

I had the same experience but it was easy to tweak.

THX was the opposite for me, a little green bias there.

All in all it was pretty easy to get it straight, and I'm happy with the picture. For $2600 this really is an outstanding unit though I can certainly respect that others may prefer JVC, etc.

What tweaks did you make for the skin tones to look normal and not like hot coal?

I am seeing the same thing, in low light scenes skin tones look orange/red and I mean not lightly, but pretty intense orange and red......this is either a huge oversight on Epson's part or just the lamp needing to burn in...what's the tweak for this? Will apply and test it it. Thanks!
post #1128 of 2974
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Originally Posted by Cyberathlete View Post

What tweaks did you make for the skin tones to look normal and not like hot coal?

I am seeing the same thing, in low light scenes skin tones look orange/red and I mean not lightly, but pretty intense orange and red......this is either a huge oversight on Epson's part or just the lamp needing to burn in...what's the tweak for this? Will apply and test it it. Thanks!
I went into the advanced menu and turned red offset down by 4 and red briteness down by 5
post #1129 of 2974
I searched the whole thread for an actual description, but no luck. The manual just mentions the menu item.

Could someone describe what Panel Adjustment actually does? I know it converges the three LCD panel images. But does it have each panel motorized? Does it shift the three images (RGB) electronically? And what's the process, what do you see on screen?

I'm curious about how they did it. Thanks.
post #1130 of 2974
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Originally Posted by gec5741 View Post

Yup I'll be making the masking most likely myself. Unless I go with a 120 inch screen then I'll probably do the monoprice muli format screen. But 120 is the biggest it seems for that type of screen.
i have heard about some problems with the 120 inch version of this screen dont remember what they are
post #1131 of 2974
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Originally Posted by kwk2293 View Post

i have heard about some problems with the 120 inch version of this screen dont remember what they are

The problems seem to revolve around the poor instructions mainly.
post #1132 of 2974
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Originally Posted by kendo70433 View Post

I searched the whole thread for an actual description, but no luck. The manual just mentions the menu item.

Could someone describe what Panel Adjustment actually does? I know it converges the three LCD panel images. But does it have each panel motorized? Does it shift the three images (RGB) electronically? And what's the process, what do you see on screen?

I'm curious about how they did it. Thanks.

The panels are not motorized. It's not a mechanical adjustment but an electronic one. The best thing to do is play with it. You'll see what it does when you start moving the lines up and down and left to right. If you exit and turn the alignment off it defaults back to the factory setting so you won't mess anything up. If you line it up better than it was when you started then you just leave it on. If I'm not mistaken, because it's an electronic adjustment, you do give up 1:1 pixel mapping but it certainly isn't noticeable. A misconverged image is way worse than one that isn't pixel mapped exactly. IMHO.

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post #1133 of 2974
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Originally Posted by nickoakdl View Post

The problems seem to revolve around the poor instructions mainly.
Apperently had problems wit screen tension this may have been fixed
post #1134 of 2974
Anyone aware of any black friday deals coming up on this 5030ub projector? I'd like to buy one, but can wait for a sale or price drop.
post #1135 of 2974
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Originally Posted by mbroder View Post

You should definitely go with a 16:9 screen with this pj, but why not do what I did...I'm very pleased with my multi format screen from Monoprice. Yes, you have to set the masks manually, but it looks and works great.




Wow - love that - wish it was out when I bought my Elite Sable... has me thinking about selling it and buying that one.
post #1136 of 2974
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Originally Posted by flyguyjake View Post

Anyone aware of any black friday deals coming up on this 5030ub projector? I'd like to buy one, but can wait for a sale or price drop.

I highly doubt you're gonna see any Black Friday deals on the 5030ub, but you could see them on the 5020ub or 5020ube.
post #1137 of 2974
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Originally Posted by Janhaus View Post

Heya guys,

I just ordered a 5030UB and am about to make the transition from LCD to Projector! Quick question - is there a recommended ceiling mount I should go for?

I bought this one for my 5030:
http://www.amazon.com/Peerless-PRGUNV-Precision-Universal-Projector/dp/B000TXNS6G/

Works great. Easy to mount/remove, and has nice knobs to make fine alignment adjustments.
post #1138 of 2974
Is anyone running 2 projectors :stacking: anymore? Was that only for 3d?
Would it provide double the brightness for daytime viewing in a well lit room?
Edited by flyguyjake - 11/15/13 at 9:35pm
post #1139 of 2974
Anyone know what store I can buy the 5030e that isn't sold out?
post #1140 of 2974
Nice, thanks for the recommendation! Mmm it's nice that it's on Amazon too but I was wondering if it's worth splurging on one of these vs just getting a cheap one, say:
http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=109&cp_id=10911&cs_id=1091102&p_id=3874&seq=1&format=2

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Originally Posted by Capitol K View Post

I bought this one for my 5030:
http://www.amazon.com/Peerless-PRGUNV-Precision-Universal-Projector/dp/B000TXNS6G/

Works great. Easy to mount/remove, and has nice knobs to make fine alignment adjustments.
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