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post #2311 of 2955
I have my 5030 loaded with six different "memories" based on on various posts on
this site.

The trouble is, when trying to decide which one of these I like the best, the steps
required from switching from one to another take several seconds. I find it hard to
make picture quality decisions this way.

May I ask other owners here who have also done this.....how do you decide on which
memory to use? Have you a special "scene" or test disc that you use to make this
judgement?

I would appreciate any suggestions you may have.
post #2312 of 2955
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Originally Posted by lapino View Post

Got a 4030 at my house today as a test (essentially the same as a 5030) but I seem to be having sync issues with both my ps3 and bluray (sony) player. My ps4, settop.box and mac mini work fine at all hd resolution. Anyone got any idea what could be causing this? I tried connecting them directly instead of via receiver, same issue. Both work fine with my Panasonic plasma and had zero issues with my previous projector (benq w1070).

have it back in the box, seems no way to get it to work with my ps3 nor bluray player. cannot understand why this is. frustrating experience...
post #2313 of 2955
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Originally Posted by willymo View Post

x2 for me as well! Sucky game, but it looked great...


I thought the Fox HD broadcast was noisy and not that HD looking at times so instead I watched it using the 2d to 3d conversion which provided interesting results. Certainly was more interesting than the game itself.
post #2314 of 2955
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Originally Posted by JOE-C View Post

Hi Mike
Usually you can take care of lamp flicker by running it in high lamp mode for awhile. So I would try running it for a few movies or so- maybe a few nights in a row than go back to low lamp and see if the problem disappears.

JOE...thanks for the help. I will give this a shot. I actually had to do this with a couple Panasonic models that I previously owned in the past - but it didn't work with those.

Epson has already contacted me back via email, but they want me to call to go through troubleshooting and they will not ship to my US Military APO address (I live on a military base in Seoul, Korea) and want me to send the PJ to someone I know in the states and then they will send a new/refurbished one to that same person to complete the swap. The problem with this is that this will cost me anywhere from $250-$450 dollars, depending on how I ship it (USPS Priority or USPS Express) - so I am hoping I don't have to go that route.

The thought occured to me to just swap bulbs with the spare lamp that comes with the 6030....that seems to be cheaper than me paying for shipping on a replacement. Do you think this would solve the issue or do you think the issue is with the PJ itself?

so, for now...I'll try the following:

1) Run in HIGH LAMP mode for a few days/nights...maybe the remainder of this week.

2) Possibly switch bulbs

3) Last resort, send to a buddy in Indiana for Epson to do the warranty swap/replacement
post #2315 of 2955
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Originally Posted by mikethewxguy View Post

JOE...thanks for the help. I will give this a shot. I actually had to do this with a couple Panasonic models that I previously owned in the past - but it didn't work with those.

Epson has already contacted me back via email, but they want me to call to go through troubleshooting and they will not ship to my US Military APO address (I live on a military base in Seoul, Korea) and want me to send the PJ to someone I know in the states and then they will send a new/refurbished one to that same person to complete the swap. The problem with this is that this will cost me anywhere from $250-$450 dollars, depending on how I ship it (USPS Priority or USPS Express) - so I am hoping I don't have to go that route.

The thought occured to me to just swap bulbs with the spare lamp that comes with the 6030....that seems to be cheaper than me paying for shipping on a replacement. Do you think this would solve the issue or do you think the issue is with the PJ itself?

so, for now...I'll try the following:

1) Run in HIGH LAMP mode for a few days/nights...maybe the remainder of this week.

2) Possibly switch bulbs

3) Last resort, send to a buddy in Indiana for Epson to do the warranty swap/replacement

When the lamp in my 6010 started to flicker, running it in high lamp - then switching back to low - helped for a while. But the lamp soon started to flicker again. I switched it out with the spare lamp and all was good. My original lamp lasted about 1800 hours or so before it failed. If switching back to low lamp mode doesn't fix the problem, put in the spare. That'll probably fix it. Perhaps then you can convince Epson just to send you another lamp. It's a lot more reasonable than shipping them the projector because of a faulty lamp. A new lamp costs about the same as shipping it that far.
post #2316 of 2955
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Originally Posted by Joseph Clark View Post


When the lamp in my 6010 started to flicker, running it in high lamp - then switching back to low - helped for a while. But the lamp soon started to flicker again. I switched it out with the spare lamp and all was good. My original lamp lasted about 1800 hours or so before it failed. If switching back to low lamp mode doesn't fix the problem, put in the spare. That'll probably fix it. Perhaps then you can convince Epson just to send you another lamp. It's a lot more reasonable than shipping them the projector because of a faulty lamp. A new lamp costs about the same as shipping it that far.

 

Gotta agree here. Switch out the lamp and see if that solves the issue and if so, try to get a replacement for the faulty lamp as long as there is not many hrs on it. Epson has very good customer service per the forums here. 

post #2317 of 2955
Hi guys,

Something to share with you all regarding the projector's matching up with different screen... i have been using Kikuchi MTSR 90" HDAM screen for years and have no problem with my other Panasonic & Sanyo projectors. When I installed my Epson TW8200 (HK model no. which is equal to 5030UB), the image revealed a large area of light grey strips that looked like water mark.

The technical advice from Epson's professional was: it's the mismatch of my screen vs high lumens projector... thus this sort of optical "Newton Ring" occured. there's nothing I can do except changing a matching screen. Of course I was upset and asked for other possible alternatives, and the answer was no...

What I did figure was to try applying:

1) Polarizing filter that may help eliminating such optical effect, or

2) Readjust the Len Shift angles (vertically & horizontally) to see if it may help...

To my great surprise, I just merely reduced the zoom range from its widest 100% to 95% (i.e., screen width from 90" to 86"), the water mark disappeared!

Now I really understood why so many AV pals are fury about the so-called technical service from dealers...
post #2318 of 2955

Hello! I am looking to find a projector to project onto a wall that is 33ft W x 11ft 8in L; the room has a depth of 58ft 2in. I'm planning on mounting the projector onto the ceiling, and so have more than sufficient space to move it back. The room will be filled to accommodate as many people as possible.

 

My search brought me to this projector, and I saw that it can project 30in-300in. My question is if this projector (5030UB or 6030UB) would be able to project a 16:9 image as large as 143.8in W x 80.89in H with a 165in diagonal well (not entirely sure if I've got the measurements correct), and what the max projection size it's capable of. I've taken off around 4ft off the height to adjust for people further back who wouldn't be able to see.

 

I'm not too familiar with this sort of thing, so any help is much appreciated! Thanks a lot.

post #2319 of 2955
Does this projector support half sbs for 3D? I tried to play a halfsbs movie from xbmc (works fine on my plasma) but the projector did not seem to detect the 3D signal. Also seeing a bit of judder with pans. I own the 4030 so no fi for me.
post #2320 of 2955
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Originally Posted by lapino View Post

Does this projector support half sbs for 3D? I tried to play a halfsbs movie from xbmc (works fine on my plasma) but the projector did not seem to detect the 3D signal. Also seeing a bit of judder with pans. I own the 4030 so no fi for me.

 

Yes it supports half sbs and over under.

In my experience (of last year's 5020) it doesn't auto-detect these formats from a media PC. (Probably does from broadcast 3D.)

You have to change the 3D mode in 3D setup manually to the appropriate format.

 

Regarding judder, assuming the movie is recorded at the typical 23.97 frames per second, as most are, make sure your source is set to output at the same rate.

In consumer equipment such as blu-ray players this is often labelled as 24p output but in media PCs it is often labelled as a 23 Hz refresh rate.

(My HTPC allows me to choose 23Hz or 24Hz but 24Hz causes horrible judder and 23Hz is the perfect 23.97 required.)

 

In my experience Frame Interpolation helps smooth out all movement but it can't do anything magic if the frame rate is already mashed up by the player.

(FI applied to a 60Hz refresh rate input playing a 23.97FPS movie = a laughable experience!)

post #2321 of 2955
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Originally Posted by fitbrit View Post

Can someone please confirm for sure whether the split-screen (side by side) feature is not available in this model? I don't mean PiP, but rather the two inputs displayed next to one another at the same size. Some posts early on in the thread suggest there might be, but there's no mention of it in the manual or on the Epson website.

Did anyone ever answer this? From what I have been able to gather the 5020 does this so I would assume the 5030 does as well. If not, I think I may be better off with a 5020.
post #2322 of 2955
Question about FI. I have had it set to low and it is now currently set to off, but it still looks like it is on when watching content. Movies have that smooth motion look like flat panels do when they have that feature enabled. What could be going on? Image just seems a little hyper real for my taste and not as cinematic.
post #2323 of 2955
I was watching some 3D movies thru Vudu. They don't look sharp at all. Actually, I would consider the quality quite bad. The projector says the signal is 1280x720. Has anyone else had the same experience?
post #2324 of 2955
I've got my projector on Cinema mode (full power lamp mode) in my fully white living room with lights switched off for nighttime viewing. Color is amazing and accurate. When I set it to Eco lamp mode, the image looks to greenish. (Natural eco mode also looks greenish). I tone down the color to -3 and the color (on Cinema Eco) looks much better.

I'd love to stick to full power on Cinema but the fan noise kinda annoys me...the projector is just 2 feet behind me. tongue.gif
post #2325 of 2955
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Originally Posted by bigly View Post

Yes it supports half sbs and over under.
In my experience (of last year's 5020) it doesn't auto-detect these formats from a media PC. (Probably does from broadcast 3D.)
You have to change the 3D mode in 3D setup manually to the appropriate format.

Regarding judder, assuming the movie is recorded at the typical 23.97 frames per second, as most are, make sure your source is set to output at the same rate.
In consumer equipment such as blu-ray players this is often labelled as 24p output but in media PCs it is often labelled as a 23 Hz refresh rate.
(My HTPC allows me to choose 23Hz or 24Hz but 24Hz causes horrible judder and 23Hz is the perfect 23.97 required.)

In my experience Frame Interpolation helps smooth out all movement but it can't do anything magic if the frame rate is already mashed up by the player.
(FI applied to a 60Hz refresh rate input playing a 23.97FPS movie = a laughable experience!)

well, I am using a mac mini with the option to match the output to the movie, when I check the incoming signal with the information option on the epson it does show 24p. i run all my sources through a marantz sr6007. could the receiver or a bad hdmi cable cause this? I think not but who knows.
post #2326 of 2955
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Originally Posted by bburstei View Post

Did anyone ever answer this? From what I have been able to gather the 5020 does this so I would assume the 5030 does as well. If not, I think I may be better off with a 5020.

I have a 5030 and it seems to only support PiP, not side by side. I even programmed my harmony remote with the old 5020 side by side button, and it just toggles PiP on and off. I have 2 HDMI and a component video cable run to my projector, so some combination should work.

side note, PiP isn't great on the 5030, the largest it gets is still very small, but it is nice that it will do PiP with the HDMI sources.
post #2327 of 2955
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Originally Posted by varkeast View Post

I have a 5030 and it seems to only support PiP, not side by side. I even programmed my harmony remote with the old 5020 side by side button, and it just toggles PiP on and off. I have 2 HDMI and a component video cable run to my projector, so some combination should work.

side note, PiP isn't great on the 5030, the largest it gets is still very small, but it is nice that it will do PiP with the HDMI sources.

guess it might be ok to use the second hdmi with a chromecast and browse the net or something while watching tv
post #2328 of 2955
Just got and installed mine! Loving it. Though have to fine tune some things, does anyone have advice on how to go about panel alignment or other calibration things ? Thanks
post #2329 of 2955
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Originally Posted by KBS756 View Post

Just got and installed mine! Loving it. Though have to fine tune some things, does anyone have advice on how to go about panel alignment or other calibration things ? Thanks
Various tips picked up from reading this and other forums:
Unless you have eagle eyes or are really close to the screen, use binoculars to set focus.
Only change panel alignment in multiples of 8. In other words, if a panel needs adjustment, change it by +8, -8, +16, -16, etc.
Make sure the projector is perpendicular to the screen, horizontally and vertically.
Most people, including me, find FI of 2 or 3 to work well without objectionable smoothing.
post #2330 of 2955
Hi all.

After a couple months of watching my 5030 on a lumpy wall I settled on a Carada 124" 2.35 1 BW screen. Anyway I set it up yesterday so last night I was popping a bunch of different blu rays in to check it out (different AR and 3d , non 3d, etc). At one point I put in the EE Return of the King and noticed area of the menus that should be black we're reddish. I played the movie and the black bars (over shooting my CIH screen) were indeed reddish. I thought maybe the blu ray was faulty but I ran through a few more discs and eventually back to the ROTK and the issue was gone.

Just wondering if anyone has any idea what happened here? Issue with the projector? Or blu ray player? (New oppo). Thanks
post #2331 of 2955
Got a couple more questions...

Can someone explain convergence? Any how I test / adjust it?

What do you use to focus? I've been using the letters on the epson menu but I'm not sure how sharp those letters should be. I do see some edges that don't look 100% sharp but maybe that is just the menu? Example pic below. Any thoughts / advice is much appreciated.
post #2332 of 2955
I would like to ask if any owners of the Epson 5030UB use the Dynamic mode at night to view Blu Rays? Or do you guys only use the THX or another less bright mode?

I am especially interested to find out if any owners do NOT have a dedicated home theater room and do not have total light control. If you are using the Epson 5030UB in a room or living room with white ceilings, white walls, and white floors, do you then use the brightest Dynamic mode to compensate for lack of dark ceilings, walls, and floors?

Thank you for any input.
post #2333 of 2955
Dynamic mode has inaccurate colors. I don't use it for anything. Color inaccuracies in DM can be corrected with a filter, but it's pricey.
post #2334 of 2955
I just bought the 5030ub and have used it daily for two weeks now. I use it in my living room which has white walls, wooden floors and uncontrolled light. I have a 92 inch 1.1 gain screen. The projector is 14.15 ft from the screen.

I use dynamic only in the daytime when I am competing with ambient light.I find myself using Living Room mode when watching TV programming and THX when viewing Blu-ray.

All in all, I am so amazed at the quality of the picture. I never could have anticipated how far superior this projector is over my old Sony VPLPX15 until I bought it and saw for myself.
post #2335 of 2955
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Originally Posted by SolRebel View Post

Got a couple more questions...
Can someone explain convergence? Any how I test / adjust it?

What do you use to focus? I've been using the letters on the epson menu but I'm not sure how sharp those letters should be. I do see some edges that don't look 100% sharp but maybe that is just the menu? Example pic below. Any thoughts / advice is much appreciated.
Convergence is the alignment of the color panels with one another. See page 50 of the manual, but it's built into the projector.

For focus I use the same grid that's used for panel alignment, but then follow it up with a static screen.
post #2336 of 2955
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Originally Posted by Carlos_ View Post

I would like to ask if any owners of the Epson 5030UB use the Dynamic mode at night to view Blu Rays? Or do you guys only use the THX or another less bright mode?

I am especially interested to find out if any owners do NOT have a dedicated home theater room and do not have total light control. If you are using the Epson 5030UB in a room or living room with white ceilings, white walls, and white floors, do you then use the brightest Dynamic mode to compensate for lack of dark ceilings, walls, and floors?

Thank you for any input.
My room is all white. I watch movies will all lights switched off. On Cinema mode (full lamp power), color and contrast is amazing.


I do have a question:

With the projector displaying "BLANK" black image, I hover my hand in front of the projection path to cast a shadow on the screen. The shadow is blacker/darker than the projected black image. Is this normal for projector at this price range? Am I demanding too much? I know JVC do have uber black...but I'm not sure how far Epson is from the elite group. FYI, this is my first projector.
post #2337 of 2955
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Originally Posted by Skylinestar View Post

...With the projector displaying "BLANK" black image, I hover my hand in front of the projection path to cast a shadow on the screen. The shadow is blacker/darker than the projected black image. Is this normal for projector at this price range? Am I demanding too much? I know JVC do have uber black...but I'm not sure how far Epson is from the elite group.

For the best blacks make sure have Auto Iris turned on (try the high speed setting).
post #2338 of 2955
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Originally Posted by kriktsemaj99 View Post

For the best blacks make sure have Auto Iris turned on (try the high speed setting).
I do have the AutoIris set to High speed...yet my cast confused.gif shadow is blacker. Is this normal?
post #2339 of 2955
A projector can never project zero light, so a shadow will always be somewhat darker than a blank screen. But the 5030 is supposed to be pretty close to the JVCs for blacks.

The real test is with dark scenes in movies, not the Blank button. But do make sure you check your brightness setting with a calibration disk, because having the brightness even one click too high will prevent you getting the best blacks. Also using the lamp on full power will raise the black level, and your all white room isn't helping. If your room is completely dark with the light outs (e.g. no significant light coming in from windows) then try using low lamp.
post #2340 of 2955
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Originally Posted by SolRebel View Post

Got a couple more questions...

Can someone explain convergence? Any how I test / adjust it?

What do you use to focus? I've been using the letters on the epson menu but I'm not sure how sharp those letters should be. I do see some edges that don't look 100% sharp but maybe that is just the menu? Example pic below. Any thoughts / advice is much appreciated.

 

Convergence is a measure of how well the 3 separate elements of the image produced by the physically separate red, green and blue LCD panels come together as one (or not).

Issues can be caused by bad alignment in the optical path (which isn't common), and by the physical alignment of the LCD panels being off a little from each other (which is quite common).

 

The symptoms are a visible separation of the green, blue or red elements of colour.

 

If the convergence is too bad, you will be able to see lines of the separated colours around the edges of objects.

If the convergence is good enough, at normal viewing distance your eyes and brain will automatically combine the colours into what you are supposed to be seeing and all is well.

 

Symptoms appear worse the larger the projection/zoom applied and the closer the viewer is to the projected image.

 

The Epsons allow the LCD alignment element of convergence to be adjusted by scaling the image to the red and/or blue LCD panel.

As this is a software based, pixel destructive process, it should be avoided if possible.

 

From your picture it looks as if the green panel is slightly to the left of the blue and red panels.

The symptom is that slight look of 3D embossed text.

BUT it doesn't look like particularly bad alignment IMO - it isn't off by an entire pixel or more for example.

I don't think I would bother applying the LCD alignment to it but you can always give it a try and turn it off if you don't like the result.

 

Best advice is not to get obsessed with the LCD alignment, particularly if you don't percieve issues at close to viewing distance, as it can become soul destroying thinking about it too much!

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